The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis

[Albert Doyle]

What is a Nagell "type"? An Otepka "type"?

That should be obvious master Charles. Nagell was an unexpected wild card and loose cannon. He came out of nowhere and was willing to shoot a gun in a bank according to his outrage over the planned treasonous assassination of a US president. A little more outrage and he could have shot Oswald in order to defeat their plot. You seem to assume an absolutist position that Dallas was guaranteed to happen, but both reality and CIA don't work that way. It is possible Oswald might have been exposed prior to Dallas. The Chicago Police could have busted Vallee earlier. The reason they didn't was because they needed to keep Vallee a live asset for CIA up to the last moment, just in case.

But let's get back to basics:

Why was JFK killed in Dallas?

Why was LHO picked as the patsy?

There's no doubt Dallas was the better city. CIA used Dallas because the political climate gave them a feeling of justification. They repeated this process in this century by using a Texan president for the worst fascist American administration. Dallas was ideal because Texas rednecks availed themselves to CIA fascist military control. These personality types tend to not let a minor thing like democracy get in the way of their willingness to take orders unquestioningly.

Was Vallee part of the false defector program? Touched by HTLINGUAL? An applicant to Albert Schweitzer College? Did he marry a blood relative of a GRU officer? Was he rubbing elbows with LCN-connected "types"? Pro-Castro Cubans? Anti-Castro cubans? Was he an FBI informant?

No, but that's not the point. If Oswald was compromised CIA had another iron in the fire with Vallee. You can't say for certain that Oswald would not have been exposed. What you have to understand is what CIA needed the most is JFK dead. Vallee and his crossfire crew could have achieved that just as easily as the Nazi crew in Dallas. Once dead the exact same receiving pattern was in place with Johnson and some sleazy Warren Commission waiting to save vulnerable and helpless Americans from the great looming WWIII virus threat. Anyone who doubted that would have been killed just like those other witnesses were in Dallas. Once you have such overt Nazi bureaucratic control, as they did, the matter of the actual assassination is minor. Vallee's brain damage is much more valuable to CIA than any Oswald red-dipping because they can mold anything they wish out of it and would have.

Is it believable that assassins of the sort required to hunt and kill a president would leave their weapons in the open for a landlady to discover?

I recognize one of my own questions coming back at me. The answer is we don't know when the call was made to expose the operation in favor of Dallas. Again, Charles, you are limiting your thinking. Chicago could have been a real attempt that was then used for cover for Dallas after the decision was made to go for it in Dallas. CIA is flexible. They're a highly complex outfit. It's not beyond their capabilities to develop plans on the run. All the advantages a fake Chicago plot created are still there even if Chicago was real up until it was cancelled.

And while you're at it, define "CIA dimensions."

Easy. CIA dimensions are best described by the endless infinity seen in the never ending vanishing perspective of the room full of mirrors.

Then stop trotting him out to bolster the unbolsterable.

Careful Drago, you are close to speaking in open contempt of one of the best conspiracy book authors.

Albert, I don't know how to respond to these levels of misunderstanding and self-contradiction. You really do need to get back to basics.

That's exactly my point as well. The Warren Commission never really publicly claimed it was exercising the WWIII virus strategy. So it would have made no difference with Vallee. Everything the Warren Commission did it could have just as easily done with Vallee - and maybe even more easily with the brain damage excuse.

Albert, "they" also could have put the heart attack drug in JFK's chateaubriand.

But they didn't.

Because killing JFK was just one of many objectives of the operation.

The red-dipping of Lee Harvey Oswald worked to their advantage, but in the long run it exposed their conspiracy. They probably would have been better-off using the undetectable heart attack drug because the outcome, as far as all the Military Industrial Complex political objectives, all would have turned out the same under Johnson. Honestly Charles, I think you are traipsing around your baroque chandelier-decorated conspiracy dining room and sipping the champagne of the high class conspirators while missing the fact the conspiracy would have been just as effective if done in the concrete basement.