12-04-2011, 11:25 AM
Jeffrey, I understand where you're coming from, but I feel that I have to clarify a couple of the points you made. First off, the buildings didn't take 10 to 15 seconds to collapse, they took under seven seconds apiece to collapse. The fact that they collapsed, in this manner, in their own footprint, not only suggests, but strongly implies that that controlled demolition was involved in both the destruction of the Twin Towers and WTC 7, which collapsed in the exact same manner and wasn't hit by anything. In a Fox News hit piece on Jesse Ventura, Ira Goldstein, the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, clearly stated that he had given the order to "pull" Building 7...the term "pull" means to demolish. As Building 7 was only damaged slightly by fire, the question arises as to why the building was "pulled", and more importantly, how were explosives placed into WTC 7 that quickly, on such short notice. This also implies, of course, that WTC 1 and 2 were also pulled. This strongly suggests that 9/11 was an inside job, and it happened to bring us into war with Iraq, and it also resulted in the passage of the Patriot Act, which basically gave the U. S. government free rein to impose a police state in the name of "fighting terrorism". Just rambling a bit
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:There was a lot of dust created by the collapse of the three towers. Most of the structural steel was not destroyed. Some of it was almost intact, much of it mangled and bent, a few pieces showed eutectic burning.
All the recovered steel was not inventoried before it was shipped away and sold for scrap. Bush said we were attacked so you don't investigate an act of war (attack), the country "responds". So we are left with little hard evidence and lots of images and videos many of them seem to be tampered with.
The steel did not turn to dust. The towers took 10-15 seconds to collapse and so this appears to be gravity at play. Some believe that this was too fast. This is an assertion not a fact.
Some are studying the collapses and the debris images to this date and discovering new information and new understanding of what happened. All three towers moved a bit before they "let go and collapsed" and this indicates that in the period of slight motion preceding the collapses, only detected with computers and sophisticated software analysis of the vids, that the structure was failing progressively and there was load / stress redistribution going on. Over time this left too little of the structure to support the loads and the buildings then collapsed from their own weight.
This was possible because of the unique design of the three towers which had long span open office floors with no columns interrupting them. So their design was partially their undoing.
We don't know what got the load / stress distribution and progressive failures going. Fire seems like an unlikely cause to do this in such a short time and without high enough temps. However once the structure was losing columns etc. it could not support the weight and gravity, as in a CD brought it down.
I personally wouldn't spend $50 to read Wood's book which if I understand correctly presents a DEW or some other form of energy which was used to "dustify" the towers. I reject that thesis for the reasons stated above.
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"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson
"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on." - William S. Burroughs