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The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis
Jim,

Your conclusions are fatally flawed.


Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Charles, I really wish you would reread Black's excellent article.

I have read the entire article at least four times -- not counting skim-throughs in search of specific information. You imply that multiple readings of what we agree is an excellent and even courageous piece of investigative journalism will lead honest, informed, open-minded readers to but single conclusion: yours.

You are wrong.


Jim DiEugenio Wrote:When you do something like put the word plot in quotes, then you are saying that it was some kind of fake out. Which I really don't think you can do, not with all the material that Black unearthed--and this is many years later.

Can do. Have done.

For me, the material unearthed by Black supports one sound hypothesis only: The Chicago "plot" was intended not to result in the murder of JFK in the Windy City, but rather to provide security -- in the forms of doppelganger-driven cognitive dissonance among pre- and post-Dallas hit investigators and plausible arguments for dismissal of pre-hit Dallas-related intel as Chicago-related intel.

So yes, I write again: the Chicago "plot."

The hypothesis of Chicago as a direct threat breaks down not only because of the downright stupid exposure of the rifles (and the whole bit about following the hitters into an alley REEKS of dramatic disinformation!), but also because of the sheer inefficiency of Vallee as a patsy.

LHO was the "perfect" patsy because of the insulation his deep black history provided -- among other reasons. Vallee was a two-dimensional doppelganger, and no honest post-Chicago assassination investigator possibly could have been convinced to cease and desist based upon Vallee-related national security concerns.


Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Now Bill Kelly has done some really good work to update this--linking it to Homer Echeverria. I used to discard the Echeverria story--but that is before i read Black's fine essay. If Bill is right about this then you literally have every piece in place for an assassination plot: the Cuban exiles, the Mob, and the CIA. You have the assassins there, plus the patsy, and the perfect site. A guy code named "Lee" stopped it all.

No.

The involvement of Echeverria tells us nothing more or less about the Chicago "plot" than the "presence" of the Mob and the CIA and "a guy code named 'Lee'" tell us: facilitators, witting and/or unwitting/ who mirrored the Dallas facilitators, were thrown into the Chicago mix in order to heighten its similarities to the real deal coming down in Dallas.


Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Now you say that somehow the replica aspect was meant to somehow confuse Dallas. But how? CHicago was covered up almost immediately. The Oswald warning about Dallas--through the Walter telex, is completely separated from his call to the FBI about Chicago.

You're eliminating interpretations of "Oswald's" calls except the one that supports your hypothesis -- which is of course your right as an advocate for a certain position. I do the same thing in this instance.


Jim DiEugenio Wrote:And to assume that somehow JFK was referring to CHicago when he used the word 'it", I mean talk about a stretch! I mean what is the evidence for that?

JFK's death in Dallas -- a plot which most assuredly wasn't "taken care of" is strong circumstantial evidence.

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:I urge you and everyone else to reread this piece.

As I urge you to reread it with my hypothesis and its defenses in mind.

Happy Easter,

CD
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The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 12:15 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 01:20 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 01-02-2011, 02:00 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 03:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 03:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 01-02-2011, 08:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 01-02-2011, 09:38 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 10:31 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 10:48 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 01-02-2011, 03:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 04:24 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 04:55 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 05:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by John Kowalski - 01-02-2011, 06:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 06:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 01-02-2011, 06:38 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 01-02-2011, 06:48 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 01-02-2011, 07:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-02-2011, 04:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 06:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-02-2011, 07:58 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 08:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 11:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Keith Millea - 02-02-2011, 11:18 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-02-2011, 11:31 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 03-02-2011, 02:57 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 03-02-2011, 03:23 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 03-02-2011, 06:28 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 07:11 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 07:25 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 03-02-2011, 07:29 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 03-02-2011, 09:12 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 02:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:06 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 03-02-2011, 03:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 03:20 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by John Kowalski - 03-02-2011, 04:12 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 04:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 05:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-02-2011, 05:33 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 10:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-02-2011, 10:34 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 04-02-2011, 12:10 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 12:44 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 04-02-2011, 01:27 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jack White - 04-02-2011, 02:51 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Cliff Varnell - 04-02-2011, 03:00 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:31 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:36 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 03:38 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 04-02-2011, 05:50 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 07:03 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 04-02-2011, 01:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 04-02-2011, 01:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 04-02-2011, 01:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 04-02-2011, 02:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 03:51 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:47 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 05-02-2011, 04:52 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 05-02-2011, 05:27 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:30 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 07:33 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 05-02-2011, 08:47 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 12:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 12:27 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:21 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 04:31 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:26 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 05:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 05:41 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 06:01 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 06:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 06:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 06:32 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 06:50 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 05-02-2011, 07:08 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 05-02-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 05-02-2011, 09:38 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 05-02-2011, 10:15 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 06-02-2011, 12:55 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 06-02-2011, 03:49 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Magda Hassan - 06-02-2011, 04:59 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 06-02-2011, 05:37 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 06-02-2011, 06:28 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 06-02-2011, 03:52 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 06-02-2011, 04:00 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 06-02-2011, 04:40 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Cliff Varnell - 06-02-2011, 07:19 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 06-02-2011, 10:04 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 06:32 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Dawn Meredith - 07-02-2011, 01:22 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 02:25 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 07-02-2011, 03:58 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 07-02-2011, 04:27 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 08-02-2011, 05:00 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 08-02-2011, 05:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 09-02-2011, 07:25 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 09-02-2011, 10:43 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 09-02-2011, 06:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 09-02-2011, 06:50 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 09-02-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 26-02-2011, 07:32 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 26-02-2011, 08:10 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 26-02-2011, 09:39 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 26-02-2011, 11:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 05:42 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 27-02-2011, 10:07 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 02:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2011, 05:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2011, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 05:55 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2011, 06:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 27-02-2011, 07:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 18-03-2011, 04:37 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 18-03-2011, 05:09 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 18-03-2011, 05:45 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 18-03-2011, 09:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 19-03-2011, 01:55 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 04:06 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 04:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 19-03-2011, 04:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 19-03-2011, 05:33 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 19-03-2011, 07:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 19-03-2011, 09:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bernice Moore - 02-04-2011, 02:05 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-04-2011, 03:46 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-04-2011, 06:23 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-04-2011, 06:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-04-2011, 08:53 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 21-04-2011, 05:11 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 22-04-2011, 02:46 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 22-04-2011, 04:15 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 22-04-2011, 04:37 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 22-04-2011, 09:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 23-04-2011, 06:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Bill Kelly - 25-04-2011, 02:57 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 30-04-2011, 05:40 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 30-04-2011, 07:12 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 30-04-2011, 07:16 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Phil Dragoo - 30-04-2011, 09:11 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 02-05-2011, 05:45 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 02-05-2011, 05:49 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 03-05-2011, 04:02 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-05-2011, 05:10 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Doyle - 03-05-2011, 05:16 AM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 04:57 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Jim DiEugenio - 26-06-2013, 05:13 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 05:47 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 06:28 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2013, 07:21 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Albert Rossi - 26-06-2013, 08:36 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Gordon Gray - 26-06-2013, 08:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 09:54 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 10:03 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 26-06-2013, 11:44 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Gordon Gray - 27-06-2013, 10:29 PM
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis - by Charles Drago - 28-06-2013, 12:16 AM

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