10-08-2012, 01:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2012, 04:40 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Hmmmm Pete you raise some bloody good points. Not only that your pretty noble in your outlook. It sort of got me thinking. I don't think JF is the wolf in sheep's clothing as Vasilios says. I think in his own head he is still doing good and I think his heart is in the right place. But the key of course is his head, I remember that classic Bruce Willis line from Die Hard II
"Hey, Carmine, let me ask you something. What sets off the metal detectors first? The lead in your ass or the shit in your brains?"
I do think JF may well be too far gone. But has he ever arrived? I've always said (to anyone that's bothered too listen ROFL). I've liked some of his stuff outside JFK, but I've always been kind of worried about Fetzer in the 'conspiracy' zone. Not because I've thought he was disinformation. But I recall reading his stuff and listening to him on BOR a long time ago and I remember sensing trouble when he would praise say Probe, but then endorse something lame like Craig Zirbel in the space of a few sentences. At different times one would hear him opine all manner of different people involved. Lord knows how a conspiracy with Nixon, Johnson, Dulles, Kissinger, Hoover, Bush and some Jewish cartel all operating as kingpins in a plot Partying at Murchison's (yes he really believes this sort of baloney and has for a long time) and planning a hit the night before. Another thing that begun worrying me later on was his use of Jim Douglass' work as a boon to his own and other misguided people like say Barr McClellan and Phil Nelson. How many other interesting viewpoints has he rendered useless by his mere endorsement of it. This is where I sympathize with Zap alteration advocates, he became so entwined in that field views independent of Fetzer seem few and far between. I'm utterly neutral on Zap alteration, I go either way with it, but part of my not going there in more depth is because I have been put off by the likes of Fetzer. If those advocates of Zap film alteration could disown Fetzer like GB has I'm sure those in that camp would be better off. As it stands the good work Doug Horne has done has been underdone by JF's promotion of it. Indeed were it not for the good work done by Horne being championed by Bill Kelly, it's doubtful many people would approach Horne. Fetzer, uncritically lapped up everything Horne said, which means he also indirectly supported and condoned Horne's stupid Greer shot Kennedy line.
His love affair with JVB, his use of Boner, his running up the flags with John Hankey and now Cinque. I mean whats funny is how CD cottoned on to this dude Rago as another potential Fetzer ally. That's precisely how far gone Fetzer is and CD has evidence on his side. I used to joke that JF would hook up with Hankey and boom. Thus I think CD is bang on the money and it will likely happen. If JF can't or won't listen to a good bloke like GB, I don't think Mantik's going to make much of a difference. Or Wrone for that matter, I mean what would his take be on this outbreak of Fetzer nuttiness? After all this crap and all the decent people he has offended here, would you really want him back Pete? I'm more concerned about Mantik's ongoing credibility by hanging out with the guy. The thing that disturbs me the most is how Fetzer is obviously twisting the evidence, he has deemed as irrelevant due to it's alteration. Yet he is now saying it confirms what he wants it too. This really is the mouth of madness.
"Hey, Carmine, let me ask you something. What sets off the metal detectors first? The lead in your ass or the shit in your brains?"
I do think JF may well be too far gone. But has he ever arrived? I've always said (to anyone that's bothered too listen ROFL). I've liked some of his stuff outside JFK, but I've always been kind of worried about Fetzer in the 'conspiracy' zone. Not because I've thought he was disinformation. But I recall reading his stuff and listening to him on BOR a long time ago and I remember sensing trouble when he would praise say Probe, but then endorse something lame like Craig Zirbel in the space of a few sentences. At different times one would hear him opine all manner of different people involved. Lord knows how a conspiracy with Nixon, Johnson, Dulles, Kissinger, Hoover, Bush and some Jewish cartel all operating as kingpins in a plot Partying at Murchison's (yes he really believes this sort of baloney and has for a long time) and planning a hit the night before. Another thing that begun worrying me later on was his use of Jim Douglass' work as a boon to his own and other misguided people like say Barr McClellan and Phil Nelson. How many other interesting viewpoints has he rendered useless by his mere endorsement of it. This is where I sympathize with Zap alteration advocates, he became so entwined in that field views independent of Fetzer seem few and far between. I'm utterly neutral on Zap alteration, I go either way with it, but part of my not going there in more depth is because I have been put off by the likes of Fetzer. If those advocates of Zap film alteration could disown Fetzer like GB has I'm sure those in that camp would be better off. As it stands the good work Doug Horne has done has been underdone by JF's promotion of it. Indeed were it not for the good work done by Horne being championed by Bill Kelly, it's doubtful many people would approach Horne. Fetzer, uncritically lapped up everything Horne said, which means he also indirectly supported and condoned Horne's stupid Greer shot Kennedy line.
His love affair with JVB, his use of Boner, his running up the flags with John Hankey and now Cinque. I mean whats funny is how CD cottoned on to this dude Rago as another potential Fetzer ally. That's precisely how far gone Fetzer is and CD has evidence on his side. I used to joke that JF would hook up with Hankey and boom. Thus I think CD is bang on the money and it will likely happen. If JF can't or won't listen to a good bloke like GB, I don't think Mantik's going to make much of a difference. Or Wrone for that matter, I mean what would his take be on this outbreak of Fetzer nuttiness? After all this crap and all the decent people he has offended here, would you really want him back Pete? I'm more concerned about Mantik's ongoing credibility by hanging out with the guy. The thing that disturbs me the most is how Fetzer is obviously twisting the evidence, he has deemed as irrelevant due to it's alteration. Yet he is now saying it confirms what he wants it too. This really is the mouth of madness.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992