12-11-2012, 11:06 PM
Martin White Wrote:One of the things that has bugged me about the film for a long time is how Zapruder supposedly managed to keep the car in the middle of the shot whilst moving towards him (albeit slowly) and did a pretty good job of panning as it accelerated away rapidly, yet for the duration of the shots, JFK's head is only just in the bottom of the frame. My suspicion is that the reflections off the side of the car would have exposed the problems with timing, and so had to be moved out of the frame. What you could call "normal framing" is resumed by frame 334, approximately a second after the head shot.
Is it me, or should Altgens appear in reflection on the trunk of the limo? Brehm, Hill & Moorman do, and there's also something of the guy to the left of Altgens (i.e. to Altgens right). I think I see Toni Foster reflected too?
The cluster of people in frame 368/369 don't appear either, but there *might* be an explanation for that.
Hi Martin... welcome.
Great observations... ALL that grass and no relflection of the north of elm. While the "sewer shot(s)" remains a bone of contention, there is more than just a little supporting evidence...
I did a gif and some detailed examination of the trunk and IMO, Altgens does appear... as does Foster...
the more I look the more I conclude the "master" had to have been shot at more than 16/18.3 fps.
in 368/369, I don't think the angle is right to have seen them...
Curious... are you aware of the importance 4+65 and 4+95 has? The 30 foot discrepancy is the difference between where z313 is in the film and where the final shot was located... either there was a shot after 313... or as we are proposing, the frame numbers are meaningless in relation to where things are in DP and what occurred when. Life magazine chose Z312 (actually) as the headshot and worked backward... even NPIC was confused as to HOW they identified the frame fop the "1st" shot..
This is as early as SAT NIGHT or SUNDAY NIGHT.... LIFE magazine has decided which frames are which... Life magazine accidently breaks the film at 156 and 207...
Does LIFE already have the altered film? they MUST. at 9am on 11/23 the film is shown at Zapruder's office. this CANNOT be a 48fps version unless the projector that shows it can be set to 48fps so it LOOKS normal speed... unlikely.
the film was shown at Kodak on 11/22
The film was previewed at the lab just after being developed. Zapruder was assured no bootlegs had been made. Sorrels later picked up two of the copies.(Trask)
Is it MORE LIKELY that the film could be shown at 48fps at Kodak?
What actual coroborration is there that the film was actually SEEN on 11/22 by anyone?
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