02-03-2013, 12:00 PM
Charles, if what you are implying was true, then, in the example I used, the so-called "surge" would never have been implemented. And Vietnam would never have lasted as long as it did. Since by about 1967, even the CIA wanted out. There is a famous memo by Helms to McNamara in which he says that the USA would be better off leaving than staying in.
And in fact, LBJ wanted to get out at this time. But his efforts were stymied by Nixon and the Chennault back channel during the 1968 election. This is another example of what I was talking about, splits in the power elite. Therefore, the war continued on for 7 more years.
This is why, for example, I don't have much patience for Alex Jones. As Seamus pointed out in his article about him, Jones tries to insinuate that there is this New World Order consensus about the universe which stems from these Power Elite groups like the Bilderbergers etc.
I don't agree with that. I think its simplistic and demagogic. I think that there are divisions within this ruling class.
The Iraq debacle was a good example. And IMO, that marked the beginning of the end for the neocons.
And in fact, LBJ wanted to get out at this time. But his efforts were stymied by Nixon and the Chennault back channel during the 1968 election. This is another example of what I was talking about, splits in the power elite. Therefore, the war continued on for 7 more years.
This is why, for example, I don't have much patience for Alex Jones. As Seamus pointed out in his article about him, Jones tries to insinuate that there is this New World Order consensus about the universe which stems from these Power Elite groups like the Bilderbergers etc.
I don't agree with that. I think its simplistic and demagogic. I think that there are divisions within this ruling class.
The Iraq debacle was a good example. And IMO, that marked the beginning of the end for the neocons.