Nelson's LBJ Mastermind book

[Charles Drago]

[quote=Charles Drago][quote=Morgan Reynolds]My dictionary says a mastermind is "A highly intelligent person; especially, one who plans and directs a project."

CD: As I've previously noted, "my" dictionary, Merriam-Webster, defines "mastermind" as "a person who supplies the directing or creative intelligence for a project."

MR: You asked for a definition and I gave one from a dictionary. What's your problem? Is your dictionary better than mine? This is Drago hair splitting because there is no significant difference between the two definitions. Both involve "intelligence" or "intelligent," "plans" or "creative," "directs" or "directing," and "project."[/QUOTE]

There is all the difference in the world. Your inability -- or is it unwillingness -- to see it tells us all we need to know about your intellectual acuity and dedication to truth.

[MR: There is no "extraordinary claim for LBJ." As I said earlier, when a president is assassinated, the vice president should automatically be suspect numero uno.

Resort to "automatic" knee-jerk responses to your hearts content. When you can demonstrate the discipline and learning to go beyond such childish responses, get back to me.

[It is a murder and Nelson assembles a rich assortment of evidence, virtually all of it previously known, but assembled via a new interpretation. This is common practice in history and criminal investigations, where facts are usually stipulated but a novel assembly of facts inspired by a "fresh" theoretical approach overthrows previously-held views.

Your "novel assembly" is my sinister disinformation. Until you can demonstrate more than a pathetically pedestrian appreciation of the JFK conspiracy, you are relegated to the peanut gallery. You offer no responses of substance to my criticisms. You are commiting the ultimate sin: You are boring me.

[You have a model? Impressive. The world is short of "models" with lots of moving parts, parameter estimates via exotic techniques and well-measured variables. Back tested against sound data sets? Confirmed by repeated assassination events? Oh joy. And you won't define false sponsor in 25 words or less? Spare me.

I will NOT spare you. The onus is on you to find the Evica/Drago model of the assassination and comment cogently upon it. You dare not. You bore me. And you reveal your limitations with every word you type.

[MR: Macbeth committed the murder directly, he was the killer, while LBJ and others at the hub relied on spokes and wheel (layers of seconds, if you will), especially shooters, as "real killers." That's all I meant.

There you go, in the Nelson mode, backpeddling. Until and unless you are willing to share your conspiracy model, your words will be appreciated as empty rhetoric.

We're waiting ...

[MR: LBJ would not get into very many technical details about execution of the crime or patsies like LHO. That's for experts in the trade like Dulles, Harvey, Angleton, Phillips, Hunt, etc. The biggest deal for LBJ pre-assassination was to "influence" the Secret Service to lower its shield so the shooters could do their work. That's one of the best parts of Nelson's work that I couldn't figure out earlier. I had even wondered if Secretary of the Treasury Douglas Dillon, a CFR/Rockefeller guy and overlord of the Secret Service, had issued coded orders for the stand down but Nelson makes a pretty convincing case for LBJ's staffers and Connally being the primary culprits, witting or unwitting depending upon individual, for lowering the shield. LBJ, probably in a panicky, jumpy mood, did get into "inadvisable" technical details post-assassination at times, like calling Dr. Crenshaw about a LHO deathbed confession or DPD Capt. Fritz to cease the LHO investigation, but I can't name one pre-assassination now.

Ahh, the panicked mastermind. With each word you type you reveal your intellectual and scholarly limitations. Ain't we got fun indeed!

[MR: As I wrote earlier, LBJ was no run-of-the-mill political operator. He was the absolute best, the best ever in the U.S. Senate if not the best in U.S. history. How many other Senators were elected whip with only two years of seniority, minority leader two years later, and then majority in another two years? The guy ascended to become Democratic U.S. Senate leader in four years! And then dominated the Senate like no other boss (assisted by J. Edgar's files on Senators of course). Not only ruthless, shrewd, a political genius, etc., but a workaholic to boot (if alcoholic too).

Which tells us WHAT, exactly, about his "mastermind" status? About his mastery of the deep political world? About his authority in the deep political world?

Where, outside Jim Fetzer's fetid imagination, do you find yourself in a position to influence any thinking person?

[MR: It's a matter congruent interests, not central command. Virtually everybody on a forum like this knows the background JFK and LBJ operated in 1960-63, including LBJ's back channels to intel, Pentagon, FBI, Secret Service, etc.

We are discussing Nelson's "mastermind" claim -- a claim of LBJ's "central command," as you put it. Stop squirming; you're on Nelson's hook, so get used to it.

[MR: Straw man.['QUOTE]

"Straw man" my ass! You have not earned the right to be dismissive. Nothing about what you've posted demonstrates mastery of the subject or sufficient wit to get away with it. Nice try. You fail.


[quote=Morgan Reynolds][MR: Straw man. Everybody knows that a newly elected government brings in its political appointees at the top of most departments and agencies, and they shift policies, within legal limitations, toward White House wishes, but the mil-intel-ind- complex, including FBI, and outside organizations like the Fed Res, they're different, they were/are not subject to those same "invasions" of new political appointees at the top. btw, I was Chief Economist at the US Dept. of Labor 2001-2002, a Bush-Cheney appointee and saw this from the inside. I was also a senior visiting economist for the Joint Economic Committee, 1993-94, minority, and a resident of Texas for 28 years.

I know your "qualifications." Or should I write, "DISqualifications"?

[MR: Good, stipulated that LBJ (crude rube, Colonel Cornpone, redneck, etc.) was not a dolt. Whew, what a relief! Now we're getting somewhere. My surmise that a lack of intelligence made the "mastermind" a thesis to hold up to public ridicule and reject out-of-hand was wrong, I guess. OK. That leaves the real reasons yet unexplained by the DiEugenio-Drago axis.

Tres drol, champ. But that's it. No substance. No argument. Just desperation.

[MR: Thanks for your advice, Mr. Drago. I'll pass your opinion on to my wife and the rest of my personal embarrassment damage-control team.

They have their work cut out for them.

I think LBJ was a hologram.

Chew on that, junior.