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The Anti-James Douglass Appears
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God, where did this reactionary right wing dis-info agent and god botherer come from? Looking at his web site and blog he seems to have arrived on the scene fully formed and ready to go. Even to the point of disclaiming his earlier writings.

Quote:NOTE: The older an article, the less likely the author is to continue to hold the views expressed in it. In particular, he would now repudiate the libertarianism and philosophical naturalism evident in some of the earlier pieces.


Some one who repudiates philosophical naturalism rings alarm bells for me. Some one who rejects the scientific method yet supports the 'invisible' hand of the market place and believes that there is a parking spot god out there cannot be taken seriously. He looks likes someone who is trying to mentally conform and fit events to a proscribed view of the world (some officially approved variant of right wing Catholicism I suppose).

Certainly looks like he is being used as the antidote to Douglass mind expanding research. Though being an intellectual hack he is no where near in the same league as Douglass in more ways than one. When I first saw Fesser's article it was posted on another forum by someone I consider to be not very well read and not noted for thinking for themselves. I did wonder where such a mentally unadventurous person would have found such an article unless it was handed to them to disseminate. I bet they haven't read Douglass. That wasn't handed to them to read and might be too challenging.

Just a few criticisms of the 'essay'.

Since when was the US a Liberal Democracy? It is a republic not a democracy. It has spent most of its existence trying to crush democracy when ever they saw it. Firstly, wiping out the indigenous, building a society on slavery, disenfranchising the 'freed' slaves and no votes for women or poor. Then there are the armed expeditions outside of the country to exterminate democracy in other places in the world. A work in progress.

He seems to believe that there is a real actual difference between the Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber administrations. The because of the bureaucratic interests and the 'too powerful' unions (in the US?!) and the 'lack' of a profit motive (in a society built on it?) there would be no incentive be be involved in a conspiracy. Never mind that he contradicts himself in the next paragraph by saying the leaders of the Soviet Union really did conspire to do evil (what exactly?) and were able to achieve this despite their notoriously cumbersome bureaucracy. I am sure Fesser would say there were no unions in the USSR. Mmmm..... Maybe he didn't study logic at philosophy school.

Quote:Of course, some conspiracy theorists will insist that the adversarial, checks-and-balances nature of liberal democracies and their tolerant ethos are themselves just part of the illusion created by the conspirators.


And of course those that don't believe there are conspiracies will persist in the fantasy that the US is a liberal democracy and/or that persons in a liberal democracy would never be involved in a conspiracy and that any conspiracies that occur with in a liberal democracy are just an illusion created by the observer.

Quote:Somehow, even the fact that conspiracy theorists are perfectly free to publish their books, organize rallies, etc. in a way they would not for a moment be able to do in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia is nevertheless just part of a more subtle and diabolical form of police state.


Somehow Fesser seems to have missed the introduction of the anti-terrorists laws patriot act etc. Maybe he can talk to Leonard Peltier and the Cuban 5 about their experiences of justice and cheques and balances and those of thousands of other prisoners in jail for being problematic to the PTB. Try getting on the MSM with anything other than official reality of any kind and see how much air time you get. Just because there is a media doesn't mean they have to let everyone play. Just because you can have a rally for something doesn't mean any one is listening let alone going to do anything. Gives the illusion of freedom meanwhile it is business as usual.

Fesser regards the Vietnam war as a just war!

Quote:But outright murder is extremely rare, and usually folded into some legitimate context so as to make it seem justifiable (e.g. My Lai or the firebombing of Dresden, atrocities committed in the course of otherwise just wars).

He just ignores or justifies the 2 million (conservative estimate) dead many more maimed and traumatised for life and the destruction of a whole country and neighbouring countries that never did anything to the US (a familiar story) Never mind that all the post WW2 surplus military was sent to Korea and Vietnam and they were going to have their war come what may and no one, not even a president, was going to stand in their way. Never mind Operation Phoenix. Mai Lai was an exception to the rule? Yeah.

I just love it how time and time again the anti-conspiracy white wash types such as Fesser neglect to mention or notice that according to the 'official' version of the JFK assassination it is accepted that it is a conspiracy. They prefer to stay in the past with the Warren Commission report and use its discredited findings as 'proof'. The evidence of a conspiracy exist with in the WC report and with much of the evidence, witness reports and information that has come since then.

Quote:I read a great deal about the JFK assassination case, and was even convinced for a time that there was a conspiracy involving the government. While I no longer believe that – I believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, and acted alone – I concede that there are certain pieces of evidence (e.g. the backward movement of Kennedy’s head, Ruby’s assassination of Oswald) that might lead a reasonable person who hasn’t investigated the case very deeply to doubt the “official story.”


I read a great deal of the bible once, and was even convinced for a time that there was a God. But after the age of 8 I used my own mind and came to the conclusion that it was mostly fiction and life and history was quite different. Well as someone who repudiates natural philosophy and scientific method I would expect nothing else from Fesser. I suppose he now sits around these days working out how many angels can fit on the head of a pin or in wonder at the reality of transubstantiation or how the invisible hand of the market place will magically solve the economic crisis.

Quote:Why, then, do people fall for these theories? Largely out of simple intellectual error. But what makes someone susceptible of this particular kind of error?


Do they fall for any theories at all? Or do they come to other conclusions with more evidence than in 'official' theories? Why does Fesser fall for the fairy tale of the American myth and Jesus and his birth and death and supposed miracles? The garden of Eden? Yet he ignores the cavernous hole in the back of JFK's head and the backward movement at the point of bullet impact. He ignores the obvious and common sense. Or does he think the bible is an historical truth as he does the Warren Commission (while rejecting the HSCA report)?

Oh, god, that's enough. It's been amusing but I have more interesting things to do like clean the kitty litter tray. I'm glad I'm not paying good money for one of his courses in 'philosophy'. Wonder what his real job is?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Peter Lemkin - 14-02-2009, 08:58 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Peter Lemkin - 14-02-2009, 10:10 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Magda Hassan - 15-02-2009, 07:32 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Peter Lemkin - 15-02-2009, 09:25 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Magda Hassan - 15-02-2009, 09:39 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by David Guyatt - 15-02-2009, 11:22 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Paul Rigby - 15-02-2009, 11:51 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by David Guyatt - 15-02-2009, 12:26 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Ed Jewett - 19-01-2011, 03:15 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Phil Dragoo - 19-01-2011, 10:37 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Albert Doyle - 19-01-2011, 04:22 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Ed Jewett - 19-01-2011, 10:57 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Magda Hassan - 20-01-2011, 12:44 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Keith Millea - 20-01-2011, 04:16 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Magda Hassan - 20-01-2011, 04:17 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Keith Millea - 20-01-2011, 05:17 AM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Keith Millea - 20-01-2011, 05:26 PM
The Anti-James Douglass Appears - by Keith Millea - 20-01-2011, 08:24 PM

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