I have extensive sections on the "Badge Man" photo and on the conflicting
reports of Tippit's whereabouts during that crucial period (including the story about him being
home having lunch). Those conflicting reports have problems of timing and other
issues that I examine in detail. I don't draw a conclusion
that Tippit was "Badge Man" but raise that possibility and note
the conflicting stories that still need resolution. Jack White carefully showed me in his office
how he did the photographic work that led to the blowup of the "Badge Man"
image from the Moorman photo and walked me through the
process, which satisfied me that he knew what he was talking about. Of course, there has been a lot of debate
over that image both pro and con all along. It's often ignored that there are other photos taken at the time
of the assassination showing the man behind the retaining wall ("Badge Man"
or "Black Dog Man"; the same figure, in my opinion). There is also
a witness who reported on two Dallas policemen firing
from close to her on the knoll. If people have more specific
questions about these sections in the book, I'd be happy to answer
them, but if someone hasn't read my highly detailed discussions, it
seems a bit redundant and possibly reductive to try to go into
more here.
David Josephs Wrote:As I've said before and will say again... Cubans, CIA, SS, FBI, etc... are all convenient scapegoats for the USMilitary... the ONLY body having the power, reach, personnel and desire to handle it all.
I tend to agree with you, but then why are you saying Roselli and Braden were involved? Is there any evidence that these two mob fixers/con artists were proficient with rifles? Besides, American mobsters are known for using handguns, machine guns and explosives. We know that many Cuban exiles received US military training, so how hard is it to believe that the military and CIA used them to carry out the dirty jobs in the assassination plot, and then eliminated them later?
I'm not disparaging the storm drain and Dal-Tex Bldg as shooting locations, just Roselli and Braden as shooters, a theory put forward by a couple of researchers I know.
the simple question of how to explain LIGHT shining toward Moorman's camera (as it does in Willis, Betzner, and a host of others) in the depth of SHADE does not require Tippit's whereabouts.
It's the same thing as discussing "Oswald's" rifle... there never was such a thing... Same with Badgeman.
This is both the positive and negative of that area... if the image of a person was really there, the reversal/negative of it would also be apparent.
The two blue arrows point to the "badge" and "shoulder patch" of the so called Badgeman image.
These two areas of light are REFLECTING from some source.... as is the white area above the "patch".
Jacks account notwithstanding.... the "smoke" coming out of the "barrell" is just that, SMOKE... which needs to REFLECT OFF SOME LIGHT SOURCE for it to have the appearance of a cloud of smoke...
The "badgeman's forehead" is also REFLECTING LIGHT and not a source of it....
Maybe you can just take a second - not to post your entire book, b[B]ut to address from your THEORY, how light coming from behind these two characters could illuminate a cloth patch, a cloud of smoke, a badge and forehead ([/B]and parts of the left side of this peron's head, also in shade) and not illuminate the entire person...
From what I've seen, there is no section of that fenceline in the area we are talking about - expecially so close to that tree - that was in sunlight.
Yet once you step back and color the sky blue... we find a person peering over the fence along the southern line... right where everyone but the FBI/DPD found footprints, cigarette butts and a muddy bumper...
and nothing but clear skies where GA, BM and HM are supposed to be.
I get that Tippit as Badgeman is only a theoretical piece in your puzzle solving... and one that will not be changed in your book.... yet until you can address the simple physics of light and shadow, the evidence can say anything you want it to... just as it did for the WCR, HSCA and others.... PROVING IT remains an entirely different matter
DJ
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Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
13-08-2013, 01:27 AM (This post was last modified: 13-08-2013, 03:00 AM by David Josephs.)
Tracy Riddle Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:As I've said before and will say again... Cubans, CIA, SS, FBI, etc... are all convenient scapegoats for the USMilitary... the ONLY body having the power, reach, personnel and desire to handle it all.
I tend to agree with you, but then why are you saying Roselli and Braden were involved? Is there any evidence that these two mob fixers/con artists were proficient with rifles? Besides, American mobsters are known for using handguns, machine guns and explosives. We know that many Cuban exiles received US military training, so how hard is it to believe that the military and CIA used them to carry out the dirty jobs in the assassination plot, and then eliminated them later?
I'm not disparaging the storm drain and Dal-Tex Bldg as shooting locations, just Roselli and Braden as shooters, a theory put forward by a couple of researchers I know.
Not trying to argumentative, really... but prove they didn't shoot a rifle that day....
Prove Mr Braden did not fire from the Dal-Tex closet on the 2nd floor. Or that Roselli was not on the County Records bldg or in the sewer... or, or, or....
Why do I say these two were involved...? I didn't. The Military orchestrating the cover-up and conspiracy has little to do with what Roselli and Braden did.... Sponsors versus Facilitators.
Any researcher saying Roselli/Braden did anything is met with the same impossiblities... proof.
I subscribe to the Drago/Evica model while I am moving toward the men I named as the key players in the "Labels" thread are on the SPONSOR side of the equation. Kenney, Galloway, Anderson, LeMay
The Military kills.... The multi-nationals, those "above" country and state are usually in it for the power and money...
they take advantage of situations, help bankroll and create situations.... but I simply do not think this assassination occurs without the planning, cooperation and control of the USMIC
the foot soldiers - Cubans, mafia, CIA do it for revenge, for self and patriotism... and comprise the Facilitators/Mechanics of the operation.
I disagree that the shooters were "top-notch". They missed terribly... a number of times FROM THE REAR... but, on purpose - IDK?
From the front? not so much.... 2-3 shots, 2-3 hits...
Who was toughest on the block to get Greer to slow and Kellerman to orchestrate... who had their fingers in ALL the pies?
The Surgeon General of the Navy was complicit in altering the wounds of the president... with the help of Stover, Humes and Ebersole.
Galloway has his secretary type up the autopsy report - really?
More SS than you can shake a stick at (26 at Bethesda alone it was said) - better protection dead than alive....
Eliminated the Cubans? So how do so many turn up at Watergate and related activities 10 years later.... ?
I do not want to wander too far off track - this is about a new book and some discussion about Tippit and Badgeman. I think I've asked direct and simple questions that require only physics and common sense.
There was no Badgeman, Gordon Arnold is a ruse... and what we see in the physcial evidence is only a faint shadow of what actually happened.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
13-08-2013, 01:36 AM (This post was last modified: 13-08-2013, 02:55 AM by David Josephs.)
Joseph McBride Wrote:You're welcome to your opinion on these matters. I have
stated my views in my book and in my previous email.
Scientific fact is not a matter of opinion or interpretation Joseph... Light doesn't work the way you and others who see Badgeman claim.... it requires a source.
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Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
IMO "Tippit behind the fence" is a variation of "Oswald in the doorway". Operating with a handful of pixels, in a time, where pixels change ( Photoshop etc.) is poor historiography. And after all: Tippit behind the fence...so what?
Karl Kinaski Wrote:IMO "Tippit behind the fence" is a variation of "Oswald in the doorway". Operating with a handful of pixels, in a time, where pixels change ( Photoshop etc.) is poor historiography. And after all: Tippit behind the fence...so what?
KK
Tippit behind the fence [so what?] when he was supposed to be in his car in Oak Cliff [actually elsewhere in his car....but, we'll let that go for now] is the same kind of nonsense KK is famous for as would be: LHO in the Checkers Room having a coke [so what?] - rather than on the sixth floor gloating over his shooting or making a get-away - at least nervous or out of breath. To paraphrase Mayor Daley, KK is not here to create disorder; he is here to preserve disorder.
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Joseph McBride Wrote:I have extensive sections on the "Badge Man" photo and on the conflicting
reports of Tippit's whereabouts during that crucial period (including the story about him being
home having lunch). Those conflicting reports have problems of timing and other
issues that I examine in detail. I don't draw a conclusion
that Tippit was "Badge Man" but raise that possibility and note
the conflicting stories that still need resolution. Jack White carefully showed me in his office
how he did the photographic work that led to the blowup of the "Badge Man"
image from the Moorman photo and walked me through the
process, which satisfied me that he knew what he was talking about. Of course, there has been a lot of debate
over that image both pro and con all along. It's often ignored that there are other photos taken at the time
of the assassination showing the man behind the retaining wall ("Badge Man"
or "Black Dog Man"; the same figure, in my opinion). There is also
a witness who reported on two Dallas policemen firing
from close to her on the knoll. If people have more specific
questions about these sections in the book, I'd be happy to answer
them, but if someone hasn't read my highly detailed discussions, it
seems a bit redundant and possibly reductive to try to go into
more here.
It's easy to forget that the Badge Man concept was perhaps not the "invention" of Mack but Jack White, for whom I had much respect. I have not seen TMWKK in many years but the image of Mack in this video is what I recall. I keep away from the photographic "evidence" as it's all too easy to imagine what one thinks they see, then outline said imagined image so that the rest of us can also "see".
A better memory from that same episode is the man who described a shot almost hitting him, coming from behind. That was powerful. He broke down.
That scene was for me the introduction of Badge Man. (Which, at the time, did seem convincing.)
Dawn
