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Paul Schrade on second gunman in RFK shooting
#31
Please remember that Sirhan B. Sirhan WAS Palestinian, but was a Christian Palestinian from Jerusalem...so it really IS the power of PROPAGANDA, only, to regard him as the more '(stereo)typical' Muslim Palestinian. In the USA he joined Baptist, 7th Day Adventist, and then Rosicrucian (secret society) church.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#32
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Please remember that Sirhan B. Sirhan WAS Palestinian, but was a Christian Palestinian from Jerusalem...so it really IS the power of PROPAGANDA, only, to regard him as the more '(stereo)typical' Muslim Palestinian. In the USA he joined Baptist, 7th Day Adventist, and then Rosicrucian (secret society) church.

Peter, do you think Palestinian Christians were not involved in the fight against Israel? They suffered just as much as the Muslim Palestinians (and still do). Ever heard of George Habbash, Waddie Haddad or Chris Bandak? Did I even say that Sirhan was a Muslim? Don't look at this case through post-9/11 glasses. You have to put yourself back in 1968.
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#33
Tracy Riddle Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Please remember that Sirhan B. Sirhan WAS Palestinian, but was a Christian Palestinian from Jerusalem...so it really IS the power of PROPAGANDA, only, to regard him as the more '(stereo)typical' Muslim Palestinian. In the USA he joined Baptist, 7th Day Adventist, and then Rosicrucian (secret society) church.

Peter, do you think Palestinian Christians were not involved in the fight against Israel? They suffered just as much as the Muslim Palestinians (and still do). Ever heard of George Habbash, Waddie Haddad or Chris Bandak? Did I even say that Sirhan was a Muslim? Don't look at this case through post-9/11 glasses. You have to put yourself back in 1968.

My 'you' was not directed at you personally Tracy. Yes, true, Christian and other non-Muslim Palestinians suffered about as much as Muslim Palestinians at the hands of the Zionists. But even back in 1968 a better boogyman Palestinian still would have been a Muslim one. I was also making a point about his connections to the Mason-connected Rosicrucians - a very strange secret society/cult.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#34
Sirhan was born March 1944 so he was four years when the 1948 war occurred. As a result of the war, his father lost his job. His family then migrated to Pasadena in 1957. The father and mother were never close and apparently the father was very chauvinistic toward women and a domineering father. His father moved to New York to find a job and would visit them occasionally. The Father would later move to Jordan, where he built a house and hoped his family would return there. When they did not he moved to Teibeh, Israel, where he lived at the time of the assassination. So Sirhan spent almost as much time in the United States as in the Arab world. Even tho he was only four, he had graphic memories of the war. He apparently was a loner and was fascinated by various religions. So to label him as an Arab terrorist would seem to be incorrect.
Ahimsa….may you live in a world of non-forcefulness.
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#35
Tom Bowden Wrote:Sirhan was born March 1944 so he was four years when the 1948 war occurred. As a result of the war, his father lost his job. His family then migrated to Pasadena in 1957. The father and mother were never close and apparently the father was very chauvinistic toward women and a domineering father. His father moved to New York to find a job and would visit them occasionally. The Father would later move to Jordan, where he built a house and hoped his family would return there. When they did not he moved to Teibeh, Israel, where he lived at the time of the assassination. So Sirhan spent almost as much time in the United States as in the Arab world. Even tho he was only four, he had graphic memories of the war. He apparently was a loner and was fascinated by various religions. So to label him as an Arab terrorist would seem to be incorrect.

I don't think any one here is calling him a terrorist at all. That was the spin put on him by those really behind the RFK Assassination, IMO - he was only the patsy to take the blame, and deflect attention from the real assassins. We see this pattern repeating in every major political US assassination I can think of...and many of the foreign ones I've studied, as well. It seems to be taught in dirtytricks-blackops-assassination 101 training courses. They call it unconventional warfare and tradecraft. Tom, or anyone, correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that while he was fully sympathetic with the Palestinian cause and plight, he was never really active in that fight/movement.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#36
Tracy Riddle Wrote: (maybe Egyptian or Lebanese)[SUP]
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If she's the girl who showed up at the campaign offices she was iranian.
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#37
I read a Facebook post by another researcher stating that Lisa Pease
is going to write in her book on the RFK shooting that Sirhan
was shooting blanks. Is there any more information on this? It
would mean there was a third shooter besides Sirhan and Cesar.
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#38
Quote:Is there any more information on this?

From http://www.sirhansresearcher.com/

Quote:His ammunition had been switched by his handlers prior to the assassination. This theory, first suggested by criminalist William Harper, corresponds with the statements of several eye witnesses who saw "bits of paper" and other residue consistent with the use of blanks coming from Sirhan's gun. It is my firm belief that Sirhan's handlers put blanks in Sirhan's gun because they did not trust that Sirhan would hit his intended target.

From http://www.blackopforum.info/discussion/...hooting/p1
Quote:Lisa Pease, in a show from June, said that Sirhan was likely shooting blanks and that there were (at least) two other shooters (one toward RFK from direction similar to Sirhan and the other from either Cesar or someone very close to him).

The Lisa Pease show in question is #736. Researchers here should grab it here (below) before the 2015 episodes are taken down from free streaming.

http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black736a.mp3
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#39
Interesting article from Shane O'Sullivan. If correct, this might be the first time we've heard from RFK's family in relation to Sirhan's "guilt".
On a side note, Bill Pepper and at least one other researcher have stated they believe they know who the Polka Dot Dress girl was. Why not name her ? Does she look like the police artist sketch ? She got away with it (possibly died in recent years ?). Sirhan is not getting any younger and seems unlikely to get anything positive from the legal system.
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/02/16/22296/
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#40
Ashley Wood Wrote:Interesting article from Shane O'Sullivan. If correct, this might be the first time we've heard from RFK's family in relation to Sirhan's "guilt".
On a side note, Bill Pepper and at least one other researcher have stated they believe they know who the Polka Dot Dress girl was. Why not name her ? Does she look like the police artist sketch ? She got away with it (possibly died in recent years ?). Sirhan is not getting any younger and seems unlikely to get anything positive from the legal system.
http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/02/16/22296/

Kathy Ainsworth was named by some. Sweet looking school teacher but apparently rabid KKK member.
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