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Max Holland and Donald Carpenter vs Jim Garrison and the ARRB
#51
Tom Scully Wrote:
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:First of all, the guy's name is Willard Robertson and he was a car dealer in New Orleans.

He did not organize and fund INCA. And you can find that out by reading, among other things, the work of New Orleans historian and archivist Arthur Carpenter. Or going to the Royal New Orleans Collection and looking at the papers of Dr. Alton Ochsner.

The guy who originated INCA was former advertising executive Ed Butler. Butler was transitioning from that field to being an anti communist propaganda expert. Ochsner was a reactionary wealthy physician who was eager to enlist for such causes. He was the original funder. And if you look at those documents at the Royal New Orleans Collection, you will see that is how it got started with Butler pitching Ochsner. I was there, sitting down with boxes of that stuff. Carpenter had also done it.

Willard Robertson was not anywhere near as wealthy or influential or powerful or connected as Ochsner was. He ended up being a contributor to INCA, as did other wealthy New Orleanians--and it was at the behest of Ochsner. I have seen the letters. When Garrison began to discover the connections between Butler and Banister and Clay Shaw, Butler left New Orleans for Los Angeles. He then did propaganda work to cover up the RFK case. Meanwhile, Ochsner formed a secret group made up of media people, plus former FBI agent Aaron Kohn, that now began to target Garrison in the local press, because Ochsner feared he would be called before the grand jury.

As for Truth and Consequences, this group lasted about a month or two. Garrison was operating for months before them, and he operated for years after them. They are absolutely inconsequential to Garrison's inquiry. Tom fell for some heavy disinformation from Carpenter. About who, Wallace Milam said to me, "I knew where he was headed from the beginning." As anyone can from reading his completely obsolete and worthless article.

All of the other Volkswagen regional distributors were, to say the least, a cut above Robertson, both in wealth and in imported automobile marketing and servicing.
Charles Urschel, Jr. was step-brother of Tom and Earl F Slick. Willard E Robertson, Jr. was the employee of failing Steelcraft Boats of West Haven, CT in 1952.
He is buried in New Hampshire.

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Oct 22, 1986 - Willard E. Robertson, Jr., and Marlin Head, 803 F.2d 136. ... Willard Robertson, Sr. marriedSally Moss Robertson in 1935 and lived with her in Connecticut. ... In 1947, the family moved to New Orleans, Louisiana, where ...

I guess you dismissed Robertson and you are not curious as to how he came to be selling used boats in NOLA in 1953 after Steelcraft, the employer who sent him
south had failed financially, yet was ferrying the new Louisiana governor on a couples vacation in his private plane in 1964?

Where did Willard Robertson come by his Louisiana contacts and influence....building the trust resulting in his wealth and stature in such a short time?
Ordinary mortals, especially Yankees in 1950's New Orleans, should have to earn or build trust. Was no one actually successful in the imported auto sales
business, individuals of local influence and wealth, as was the case and the selection in all other U.S. regional markets, uninterested in competing with
outsider, inexperienced and unwealthy Willard Robertson for the opportunity of exclusive south central states Volkswagen distribuion, circa 1955?

Consider that the principle CIA NOLA agents and almost everyone of any influence in NOLA, aside from Garrison, was born in Louisiana or at least was a southern
native. CIA agent Dorothy Brandao had married a V.P. of Standard Fruit and moved to his Honduras residence.

Butler's first cousin Rance was Gordon Novel's partner and Novel was ushered into this saga by Robertson.

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Zany knowledge NOVEL and his partner had concerning ant i-CAST RO assassination camps in the Slidell and Covington, Louisiana, area. NOVEL quoted GARRISON
GARRISON also questioned NOVEL concerning quick ways of making I ERRIE confess and mentioned the use of sodium penathal. According to NOVEL, GARRISON is obsessed
in the assassination. NOVEL advised that he had been contacted during the late afternoon on February 21, 1967, by WILLARD ROBERTSON, a New Orleans businessman....

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William Gurvich was there. Louis Ivon was in and out of the office. Q Was Rance Ehlinger in the office during the entire period of this meeting? A Yes. Q
statement you iden- tified the other day? A Yes. Q It had interjections by Novel and you said you may have said some of those things and so on. A Yes. Was

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Nov. 1, 1983
ROGERS, Ark. Willard E. Robertson, 75, a four-state automobile distributor who died this past weekend in a New Orleans hospital, was buried Monday on his Beaver Lake estate.

Robertson served on the Republican Presidential Advisory Board in 1981 and on a Republican presidential task force in 1982.
Survivors include his wife, Marlin Head Robertson; three sons, Sen. Phillip S. Robertson of New Haven, Conn., Willard E. Robertson Jr. and James C. Robertson, and a daughter, Patricia Miller of New Haven, Conn.
The 1940 US Census indicates Willard was a $35 per week restaurant manager who had married Sally Moss of New York. In 1964 he was appointed by Gov. McKeithen as DMV commissioner of Louisiana.
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When Willard E. Robertson, Sr. died at Ochsner Foundation Hospital in October, 1983, he left an estate worth approximately $30 million, a will leaving the bulk of his assets to his wife and the children of his third marriage, and modest bequests to two children of his first marriage. The children of the first marriage contend that they are entitled to a larger portion of their father's estate than is granted them under his will because he died a domiciliary of Louisiana subject to that state's forced heirship laws…..

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Death: 1983 New Orleans Orleans Parish Louisiana, USA

Burial: Conway Village Cemetery Conway Carroll County New Hampshire, USA


It took me a while to accept that it is accurate to conclude that Garrison never suffered any permanent career set back from either his investigation of and prosecution of Clay Shaw, or as a result of the two failed prosecutions of Garrison by the U.S. Attorney's office.


Now that Tom has so graciously introduced us to the Robertson's family tree, what the hell does any of this have to do with Lee Oswald or Jack Kennedy? It's like me speaking about an associate of Edwin Kaiser whose name was Holmes Tuttle, and Tuttle was president of Tuttle auto, he sold a car to Ronald Reagan, so what?
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Quote:It took me a while to accept that it is accurate to conclude that Garrison never suffered any permanent career set back from either his investigation of and prosecution of Clay Shaw, or as a result of the two failed prosecutions of Garrison by the U.S. Attorney's office.

I'm sure glad you were able to get over it with time, crap man! Garrison never did.
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#53
Everyone who studies Gordon Novel knows about his relationship with Rance and Butler.

The last point about Robertson and Novel is wrong. It was Gordon who approached Robertson for an introduction to Garrison.

This last sentence is shocking to me:

It took me a while to accept that it is accurate to conclude that Garrison never suffered any permanent career set back from either his investigation of and prosecution of Clay Shaw, or as a result of the two failed prosecutions of Garrison by the U.S. Attorney's office.

So much so that I will deal with it separately.
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#54
That sentence is anything but accurate about Garrison.

After the failure of the Shaw prosecution, the local Justice Department office went to work on concocting a frame up in order to do two things: 1.) Get Garrision out of the DA's office and 2.) Place him in jail.

The objective of the first was to make sure no more JFK indictments ever came out of New Orleans. And the second was to hopefully discredit Garrison with a jail sentence. And by doing such, that would discredit the JFK critical community.

Therefore, Garrison was arrested on a frame up using Pershing Gervais as a suborned witness. They shipped him to Canada and gave him a phony job so that he could not be called back for a deposition. Meanwhile, the local attorney put together a case that featured a couple of guilty people in pinball kickbacks with JG as the third culprit. Even though there was no connection between those two and JG plus Garrison had prosecuted this racket more than any other DA before him.

The only way Garrison got out of this was that Gervais hated Canada. So he talked to a reporter from the Vancouver Sun. This helped expose the whole thing as a front. And this got into the New Orleans papers. And this is what saved Garrison from getting convicted.

In other words, did Garrison have to go to jail on a phony charge in order to disprove Carpenter's (and Tom's) bizarre thesis? I think that is the implication.

But it worked in achieving the first goal: the bad publicity got Garrison out of office and government stooge Harry Connick into the DA's office. Which was an atrocity for the citizens of New Orleans since Connick was a horrendous DA. It took years to clean up the mess he created down there.

But the local government attorney still tried to put JG in jail. They indicted him again with an even phonier charge: not paying taxes on the ill gotten gains he never got from the pinball racket he never participated in.

This ordeal essentially broke him. Once it was all over, he had about five thousand in the bank and was working as a sole practitioner in a small rented office off of the Quarter. I know this from people who visited him there to talk about the case. This was the man who, before the Kennedy case, had an almost unlimited ceiling as a politician in the state. He could have easily been governor. Which is why he said later, if he had to do it all over agin, he probably would not have. The position in life that was most important to him was the DA's job. He turned down other lucrative offers, like being a bank counsel, and having a bank charter, to stay in that office.

But Shaw and his lawyers were still not done. They filed a lawsuit against Garrison. But then Shaw died in 1974. If you can believe it, Shaw's lawyers tried to continue the lawsuit in his name. Garrison had to petition the Supreme Court of the United States to get the frivolous lawsuit thrown out. Which did not happen until 1978. Meanwhile, what was Connick doing in office? One of the things, besides putting innocent people on death row, was incinerating Garrison's files. He even wanted to incinerate the grand jury testimony! Thanks God, the guy he gave that mission to did not do it.

It took Garrison about a decade to get over what happened to him as a result of this case. And, in fact, he never really did. Because the one position he said he would give up his DA's office for was to be a senator. That was not possible after this ordeal. In other words, of the two jobs he was looking for, one was lost, the other was foreclosed on by his inquiry.

I guess this is Tom and Carpenter's idea of having no permanent setback? Well, yeah if its not you, that is kind of easy to say.

For Carpenter's hatchet job , its even easier.
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#55
Garrison is lucky he wasn't killed. But like Mark Lane he was too far out in the spotlight...
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Garrison is lucky he wasn't killed. But like Mark Lane he was too far out in the spotlight...


Funny you should say that.

In my files, before I sent them to Bill Davy, I had some of the Justice Department documents on Garrison's arrest. When they went to his house to clamp on the cuffs, one of the marshals wrote something like: defendant said he thought he would be shot not arrested.

But as you note, he had too high of a profile for them to do that. So they instead tried to send him to prison instead as the last ignominy.

Recall, Helms gave the Garrison Group directives on what to do before, during, and AFTER the Shaw trial. IMO, this was not just about Garrison, but it was to send a message to any other DA: look what we did to one of the most popular politicians in this state. Don't get any ideas about investigating the JFK case. It will happen to you.

And look at what happened to Richard Sprague in 1977.
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The Waterways Journal - Volume 63, Issues 27-52
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Wednesday noon, at International House, Mr. Bull and James A. Viavant of the Avondale firm entertained at lunch for Jack Churchward of West Haven, Conn., president of Churchward, Inc.; Selim B. Lemle, prominent admiralty lawyer, and the ...

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WillardE. Robertson SHREVEPORT Private Kimilv services (or Willord E. Robertson, a recent resident o Shreveport, were held at 11 a m, on Mondav October 31, at the tomilv home Grevstone on Beaver Lake near Rogers, Ark. Mr Robertson died at Ochsner Foundation Hosoitol in New Orleans ot 10 a m on Saturday, October 29. 1983, (oliowingashort Illness Interment will be in the family mausoleum. Mr. Robertson, born on May 16, 1908 in Conwov, NH, was a well-known business and civic leader in Shreveport as well as in Rogers, Ark. and New Orleans, La. He was educated in Exeter, N.H. and Northeast University of Low in Boston, Mass. Mr. Robertson wos assistant to the president ot Church, Ward & Co. in New Haven, Conn. In 1948. he went to New Orleans with Church, Ward & Co., as marine engineer. In 1949, he entered the automobile business in New Orleans and for 22 vear s was a Volkswogen distributor, covering the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee, with 68 dealers. For 4 years he was the Porsche and Audi distributor for the some territory, with 14 dealers. In addition to business affiliations, he was involved in public and civic organizations, to list a few: 8 years, chairman, Louisiana Motor Vehicle Commission, Vi years, choir-man of the Housing Authority of New Orleans (rated by federal government as best Housing Authority in United States) , 8 years. Commissioner, Mississippi River Bridge Authority, 3 years, chairman. New Bridge Authority, 4 years. Metropolitan Crime Commission of New Orleans, Inc., 15 years. The Information Council of the Americas, Inc. (INCA), vice president, New Orleans Goals Foundation, member. Mayor's Citizens' Advisory Committee - Housing Authority, Advisory Board, Salvation Army, founder, Howard Johnson Tragedy Fund; board of directors: Citizens' Housing Council, International House, International Trade Mart, Metropolitan New Orleans Safety Council; member: Association of the United States Army, Chamber of Commerce, New Orleans Metropolitan Area, United States Chamber of Commerce, Committee of SO New OrleansPublic Safety, Louisiana State Science Foundation 5 years, Public Affairs Research Council of Louisiana (PAR), Gulf South Research Institute, 1968, Louisiana Chairman of Democrats for Nixon, 1972, Louisiana Finance Chairman of Committee to Re Elect President Nixon, 1978 80, Arkansas Finance Chairman, United States Olympic Committee, 1981, Republican Presidential Advisory Board, 1982, Republican Presidential Task Force. Mr. Robertson is survived by his widow, Marlin Head Robertson of Rogers, Ark.; three sons, Willord "Robbie" E. Robertson, Jr. and James Christopher Robertson, of Shreveport, and Senator Philip S. Robertson of New Haven, Conn.; o daughter, Patricio Miller of New Haven; ond three grandchildren. The family reauests that onv memorials be made to the Alton Ochsner Heart Fund of New Orleans or to the Amerlcon Heart Association.
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...Among the circumstances which led to the making of the adjustments of November 25, 1942, were (a) the fact that the defendant did not want the plaintiff to have anything to do with Churchward and Company; (b) the fact that Churchward and Company had shortly before secured new contracts of so large an amount that it became necessary to get larger premises; and © the desire of the parties to separate the ownership of the two companies in order that the large profits which would in the future be received from the Churchward Engineering Company should not be jeopardized by the defendant's hazardous new war ventures in Churchward and Company.......

Quote:KEYES v. CHURCHWARD, 135 Conn. 115 (Conn. 1948) | Casetext

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FRANK KEYES v. JACK CHURCHWARD. Supreme Court of Connecticut. The gist of an action for alienation of affections is the loss of consortium, a property ...
......He remained with her until they quarreled on December 30, 1945, and he left the next day. While the plaintiff was in the service, his wife had progressed from a position where she received about $30 a week to that of treasurer of the Churchward Company, receiving more than $7500 a year. She was personally attractive, and the jury could have found that she was a very capable and efficient business woman. The plaintiff, after he left her, saw her in the company of the defendant on various occasions......



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COURT U P H O L D S ALIENATION AWARD HARTFORD, July T--(AP) Datn- of JIT.SQO against Jack Churchward, wealthy We«t Uav«n boat builder, for a tea ling the Iov» of a war -eteran's wife while th* veteran was overeeae, have been ujiheld by the state Supreme court. Although tiic amount wa* th* l»rg**t awarded In an alienation of affections case In Connecticut, th» court said in a decision yesterday. Church ward's conduct was "particularly flagrant and inlurtoils" to the plaintiff, Prank Keyte, New HavEn letter carrier. The court said It also took Into consideration "the present deflated value of the dollar." Keyca brought ault against Churchward after his return from Army ncrvlcea overseas during World War U, Re contended that tho bent manufacturer stole the «.f- fcctions of Me wife,'Gull, who went to work as Church ward's secretary shortly after he entered the Army. Mre. Kcyea later became an officer of the Churchward concern, which held In cm live wnr contracts. A Superior court Jury early thl* yenr decided Lhe «ull in Keym' favor, nnd n. wnr Jed nlm 126,000 dam- a£w. The amount wSs reduced to 117,800, however, by Judge Patrick E. O'Sullivan. The Judge said h* did so because h* «uspected that "the ladies of the Jury entertained a cordial disliKe" of Mrs. Keyes and "look It out on" Churchward. ' Tha Supreme court 1 * decision wu I h u ««eond recent lejfnl rever*« *nf- fevcd by Churchward. Hla wife, Martha, won a divorce find « 131,250 settlement lust month. Suing on grounds of desertion, she tea tilled that «ho believed her hugband left her In Mureh, ItMS, because ot "his interest In other women." · Churchward did not contest th* Jury's finding In Xeyei' alienation suit, but contended that the amount awarded n« domagee, even when, reduced by the trial judge

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The Waterways Journal - Volume 63, Issues 27-52


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..J.H. Bull and. James A. Viavant of the Avondale firm entertained at lunch for Jack Churchward of West Haven, Conn., president
of Churchward, Inc.; Selim B. Lemle, prominent admiralty lawyer, and the writer. Plans of Mr. Churchward to establish a plant in the New Orleans area to build Steel- craft boats were noted in the October 29 Waterways Journal, page 19.


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General C„U Practice LEMLE, MORENO & LEMLE J*^TM' _ . ... REPRESENT: National Bank or Commerce In New Orleans; The Pullman Co.; Railway Express Agency, Inc.; General Outdoor ... Selim B. Lemle, born New Orleans, Louisiana, November 21, 1894; admitted to bar, 1916, Louisiana. ... ASSOCIATES Harry V. Souchon, born New Orleans, August 8, 1910; admitted to bar, 1932, Louisiana.

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The largest of the models is the 50-ft. utility launch recently completed by Churchward. ... These three vessels of the Rhodes design are being built by Churchward for the Creole Petroleum Corporation who will use them in their drilling ...


Marine News ... - Volume 36 - Page 43

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oria i on WILLIAM H. MAWHINNEY TOWBOAT TRIAL RUN Rrst of a fleet of 19 fifty foot steel towboah built by Churchward & Co. for Creole Petroleum Corporation's offshore oil well program in Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela. SHIP'S

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Edwin "Squirrel" Ashcraft was head of CIA Domestic Contacts, his deputy William P. Burke, Jr. was chief of CIA Domestic Contacts Southeastern region.

George W Dodge, Princeton '29 classmate and fellow Triangle Club member of Edwin Squirrel Ashcraft, Herbert Seay, and John Coxe, was briefly first married in 1931.
Seay was roommate of George Bouhe's sister's Husband, Tilbury O. "Buck" Freeman. From Dodge's 1931 wedding announcement.:
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John Coxe and George Bouhe's wife's husband Freeman were both members of Princeton Glee Club. Squirrel Ashcraft was Triangle Club V.P. and credited withmoving the musical emphasis of Triangle Club
performance in 1927 to jazz. As recently as the 45th reunion of class of '29, Ashcraft was leading a jazz ensemble as reunion musical entertainment.
George W. Dodge was born n Illinois and moved with his family at a young age to Napoleonville, LA
In 1917 in Napoleonville, Willoughby Kittredge married the aunt of George W Dodge's 1931 wedding usher Harry Souchon.
In the 1917 wedding party of Kittredge and Souchon was Kittredge's niece, Frances Kittredge as a bridesmaid, a ringbearer Harry Souchon,nephew of the bride.
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In 1927, William P Burke, later CIA chief of the DCS office Southeast, married Frances Kittredge.

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Edmond Souchon
New Orleans Jazz Club., 1984

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In the 1917 wedding party of Kittredge and Souchon was Kittredge's niece, Frances Kittredge as a bridesmaid, a ringbearer Harry Souchon,nephew of the bride.

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In 1927, William P Burke, later CIA chief of the DCS office Southeast, married Frances Kittredge.

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Nothing to see here, move along, folks....mere coincidence that CD Jackson was Pottstown, PA boarding school mate of William P Burke's best friend and his roommate, father of U-2, Gen. Phil Strong, or that George Bouhe's sister's husband was a Princeton classmate of Burke's boss, Squirrel Ashcraft, and both were classmates of George W. Dodge, or that Willard E. Robertson is the most neglected person of interest in producing the dramatic production AKA Jim Garrison investigation.....
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:Garrison is lucky he wasn't killed. But like Mark Lane he was too far out in the spotlight...




And look at what happened to Richard Sprague in 1977.

When they got rid of Sprague that was the end of any serious investigation by HSCA.
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About Sprague, I will never forget what Joe Rauh, a prominent civil rights lawyer said about his leaving the HSCA. "You know, I never thought the Kennedy case was a conspiracy. But if they can do that to Dick Sprague, it must have been."

The things that bothered Sprague the most were:

1. Why did the Warren Commission not buy Sylvia Odio?

2. Why were there no pics or tapes of Oswald in Mexico City? And why did the CIA make up all of these weird excuses as to why they were not there?
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:About Sprague, I will never forget what Joe Rauh, a prominent civil rights lawyer said about his leaving the HSCA. "You know, I never thought the Kennedy case was a conspiracy. But if they can do that to Dick Sprague, it must have been."

The things that bothered Sprague the most were:

1. Why did the Warren Commission not buy Sylvia Odio?

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JFK The Movie cost $41 million. Future Columbia Graduate School of Journalism dean emeritus Nicholas B. Lemann savaged Garrison and the film to the degree that Perry Russo brought suit against Lemann and his publisher, and Oliver Stone and co-script writer and Garrison's book editor, Sklar replied at length to Lemann.....

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Editor's note: Nicholas Lemann's essay "The. Case Against ... journalist and screenwriter Zachary Sklar. EVIDENTLY ... Stone's JFK, 1 take issue with several of.

JFK: The Book of the Film : the Documented Screenplay

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The Book of the Film : the Documented Screenplay Oliver Stone, Zachary Sklar. name names. Isn't it a bit unfair of Lemann to ask Garrison to do what these ...




Full text of "Stone Oliver JFK Movie" - Internet Archive

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According to him, Stone believes in a conspiracy because KennedY was killed ... Zachary Sklar New York City Nicholas Lemann replies: In my dealings with the ...

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Stephen B Lemann announces appointment of Walter J Machann (aka Father Machann) : (July, 1965)
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Garrison describing Stephen B. Lemann in complaint letter to FCC Chairman., pub. 06/18/67 Times-Picayune:
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2of2 Garrison 06/18/67 letter to FCC comm. Rosel H. Hyde
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…It should be added that the last described endeavor has been accomplished not by members of the station (WDSU) itself, but by an attorney closely connected with the station who has previously been known to disperse funds in the New Orleans area in behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency…
Joan Mellen and her husband, Ralph Schoenman first met Garrison just months after the Shaw trial verdict.: My Investigation of the Garrison Investigation, New Orleans, Louisiana, October 17, 2015
http://joanmellen.com/wordpress/2015/10/20/my-investigation-of-the-garrison-investigation-new-orleans-louisiana-october-17-2015/
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Man of a Million Fragments: The True Story of Clay Shaw (Paperback)
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Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
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JOAN: when Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people.……
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/3/26/Lewis-Reporter-Dies-Journalist/?page=2
Anthony Lewis '48, Pulitzer Winner and Crimson Mentor, Dies at 85
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…But even as The Crimson shaped Lewis, he, in turn, shaped the organization. Over decades as an active member of the paper's graduate board and one of its three trustees, he was the champion of quality journalism and the model for every young Crimson editor that hoped one day to make it in the world of print.
"You were in a situation where everyone's parents were begging them not to go into journalism, and you wanted to have some visible role model," said Nicholas B. Lemann '76, the dean of Columbia University School of Journalism. "A lot of his influence was just modeling for us what a happy and an honored career in journalism could look like, and it looked pretty good."
……."At a liberal moment in American history, he was one of the defining liberal voices," Lemann said.
http://joanmellen.com/wordpress/2013/10/21/clay-shaw-unmasked-the-garrison-case-corroborated/2/
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(When I mentioned that I was working on a book about Garrison to the late New York Times columnist, Anthony Lewis, at a conference at NYU on the subject of 9/11, Lewis literally turned white. CIA's friends in the media continued in their efforts to discredit Jim Garrison long after his death).
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I continue to believe that Jim DiEugenio and nearly all other participants in this thread are holding back credit where it is due.... accurate, relevant, interesting (troubling ?) details of the commonality of the relationships of the players..... the Garrison described CIA connection and uncle of Nicholas B Lemann, .....uncle and the CIA connected player who presided over the organization that gave former Father Machann a fresh start, and the troubling connections undisclosed by Garrison....uncovered independently by me and leading me to criticize Donald Carpenter book reviewer Mr. Blackburst almost literally on his deathbed because Blackburst neglected to even include in his review the groundbreaking research Donald Carpenter was the first to discover and ever publish....is because it is taking Mr.DiEugnenio and nearly all other participants a good deal of time to digest and to accept the implications of what author Carpenter uncovered and I stumbled upon independently, before I was aware of Carpenter's research.

It is obvious Jim Garrison and possibly some of his supporters did not want anyone to know that Nicholas B Lemann's step-grandmother was mother-in-law of David Baldwin and Baldwin and his brother Edward were first cousin's of Garrison's wife, Liz Ziegler, and David was also her godfather, and Clay Shaw was made aware of these connections by David Baldwin within a week of Shaw's arrest.

Even a year later, it would appear the emphasis is on criticism of Carpenter for using Max Holland as a conduit, instead of delving into Garrison's
best kept secrets. I cannot find any instance in which Garrison ever actually described Stephen Lemann or David Baldwin by name. Joan Mellen
told Rex Bradford that David Baldwin was......

Quote:https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Unredacted_-_Episode_1_-_Transcript.html
Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
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JOAN: when Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people.……

Who has best served those interested in Garrison's investigation and his motivation for conducting it? Is Donald Carpenter deserving of inclusion? Was Jim Garrison deserving of inclusion, or did his secrecy muddy our ability to assess who is committed to pursuit of the truth and who is distracted by misguided concerns and allegiances?
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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