At last: Shickshinny Knights of Malta linked to the Draper/Vonsiatsky Condon ManCand crowds

[Jan Klimkowski]

Third.

Part Three:

The Bishop and the Boys - Part Three: Jack Martin and the Camp Street
Cathedral

“Similarly, as with CRISMAN, I think that in the course of the memo
the periodic necessary references to the OLD CHURCHES have half
answered the question. Applying to this subject the available
models, I suggest that the most likely rational conclusion is that
here, again – except with more particularity – we have a clandestine
substructure developed to serve the intelligence community’s concept
of national security.

A bizarre structure, to be sure, but its very
strangeness … makes it all the more safe from possible investigators
who are looking for spies wearing trenchcoats and carrying, like so
many James Bonds, gold cigarette cases. The churches – like all
churches – are virtually free from official inquiry by virtue of the
Constitution, not to mention American custom. The “ministers” and “
bishops” can accumulate money (religious fund raising) without
serious inquiry as to the sources. They are free from the 9 to 5
routine expected of normal, patriotic Americans, free to operate in
relative seclusion from the expected social involvements, free to
engage in obscure crusades or missions and free to travel extensively
… as assignments may dictate. And where, as may be the case in some
instances, there may actually be a home structure for the particular
church, one would have the most natural of safe houses.”

-- Handwritten memo
from New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison to Jonathan Blackmer
of the House Subcommittee on Assassinations, dated July 18, 1977
regarding Thomas E. Beckham.

The story of Jack Martin is almost as strange as that of his
old friend and fellow clergyman, David Ferrie. With Jack, we are in
the same twilight world we are with Ferrie and Oswald. In fact,
“Jack Martin” is not even his real name.

Jack S. Martin was born in Phoenix, Arizona on July 1, 1915,
but his name at the time was Edward Stewart Suggs. Like Carl
Stanley, he eventually developed an arrest record and had served in
the US Army during World War II. He became a back-alley abortionist
in Houston, Texas after the war and had to flee the state when one of
“Dr Suggs’s” patients died as a result of his medical incompetence.
The resulting murder charge was later dismissed, however, and Suggs
eventually wound up in New Orleans (about 1954) where he became John
Stewart Martin, Sr. or, simply, Jack Martin or Jack S. Martin.

Jack Martin is a pretty common name, so perhaps we should not be
surprised to see a Special Agent Jack S. Martin appearing on Project
Blue Book documents dating back to 1949, years before Edward Suggs
changed his name (as far as we know). This particular Jack S. Martin
was in California at the same time as our Ed Suggs, but was working
for the OSI, or Office of Special Investigations, a department of the
US Air Force. This is shown by OSI documents from October 1949 in
which S/A Jack S. Martin was investigating UFO sightings in northern
California by an Edward W. Gurband, a Roy Oliver Neely, and a
Reverend Curtis Daniels that had taken place on August 1, 1949 in the
San Francisco area. Our Jack S. Martin, however, is not known to
have changed his name that early and, besides, there is no evidence
at all that he ever worked for the Air Force. However, just to be
devil’s advocate for a moment, there was no US Air Force during World
War II; it was known as the Army Air Corps then, so it is possible –
just barely possible – that Suggs/Martin did work for the Army Air
Corps as an enlisted man or even as military police, but I have been
unable to find Suggs’ military record to confirm or deny this
possibility. I just leave it here as an unresolved issue. It would
be amusing (if not a little unnerving) to discover that both Guy
Banister and Jack Martin were investigating UFOs for the government
at the same time, though!

Getting back to Suggs, however, we find that he was passing himself
off as variously an FBI agent or a CIA agent in the late 1950s and
early 1960s, before the Kennedy assassination. An alcoholic, he
wound up in a mental ward at New Orleans’ Charity Hospital in January
of 1957, with “sociopathic personality disorder, antisocial type”.
All during this time he was married to the long-suffering Paula
Martin and even had a child, but he was unable to hold down a job for
any length of time.

This is a familiar pattern in the Kennedy assassination case. Lee
Harvey Oswald had the same track record as a married man with
children, unable to hold down a job, and who had been under
psychiatric observation (at least, in the Soviet Union). If we are
to believe the record, both men had delusions of grandeur and could
be considered antisocial sociopaths. And, of course, both had
military service and both wound up in New Orleans at the same time,
working out of Guy Banister’s Camp Street office. Oswald, however,
was not an alcoholic nor was he one of Carl Stanley’s bishops.

As another aside, both Ferrie and Martin were involved in unorthodox
medical practices and experimentation. Ferrie’s obsession with
curing cancer is well-known and documented, as well as his practice
of hypnosis, and Martin had an on-again, off-again fascination with
various forms of medicine, homeopathy, chiropracty, hypnosis, and the
like.

In 1960, Martin was interviewed by the FBI on charges that he was
impersonating an FBI agent. Martin seemed to have offered the Feds a
deal in which he would reveal that one Carl J. Stanley of Kentucky
was running an illegal operation by furnishing false ordination
certificates and other worthless paper. The FBI interviewed Stanley
himself, and came away with the opinion that both Stanley and Martin
were fruitcakes.

There it would have ended had it not been for the events in Dallas of
November, 1963 and a series of bizarre phone calls that took place
between Stanley and the FBI, and Martin and the FBI in the hours
after the Kennedy assassination.

Sometimes things are just as they seem, even in conspiracy studies.
After all, the world is full of drunks, sociopaths, unemployed and
unemployable men with delusions of grandeur who await the next big
break … or the next big bender. There are men who claim to be agents
of the FBI or the CIA who have never even seen one up close. And
there are men who defame the character of other men in revenge for
imagined wrongs, who then recant their stories in embarrassment when
confronted by authority.

This is probably a fair characterization of the conspiracy cases
against David Ferrie and Jack Martin. After all, it is entirely
possible that neither man had anything at all to do with the
assassination or had anything to offer by way of relevant information
or evidence. The book by Daniel Hopsicker – Barry and the Boys –
does provide additional evidence on the role of David Ferrie and the
anti-Castro underground, however, as well as of his presumed ties to
US intelligence agencies, most of it in the form of personal
interviews with law enforcement personnel and others who knew Ferrie
in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and for that reason alone is quite
important.

And then there’s Jack Martin.

Jack is portrayed as a hopeless drunk and, indeed, most of the
investigators out of Jim Garrison’s office confirm that view. Martin
is usually cited as the person who started the entire Garrison
investigation rolling by calling the DA’s attention to David Ferrie
as a suspect in the assassination. An examination of Martin’s
initial statement to the FBI on November 25, 1963, however, reveals
that Martin’s information on Ferrie was surprisingly accurate.

He mentioned that Lee Harvey Oswald had been in Ferrie’s Civil Air
Patrol squadron and that the two men knew each other, a claim that
was contested for years before photographs surfaced showing Oswald
and Ferrie together during a CAP outing. In fact, Martin told the
FBI that he saw photos of Oswald and Ferrie together at Ferrie’s
apartment. He also told investigators that Ferrie had a stock of
weapons at his apartment, which was also true.

Further, he had details of Ferrie’s problems with the law in the
matter of “crimes against nature” with young boys, and of his
penchant for hypnotism. He said that Ferrie had been “educated in a
seminary”, which is also true.

In fact, there is probably nothing in that initial report that is wrong.

In the second interview, dated November 27, 1963, Martin insisted
that he never said he heard Ferrie say he was going to kill Kennedy.
He honestly reported that much of what he knew about Ferrie came from
information he obtained from third parties, and that was pretty much
the end of it. The only salient points of the two interviews was the
information that Ferrie and Oswald knew each other. Later, to
District Attorney Jim Garrison, Martin would suggest that Ferrie had
hypnotized Oswald to commit the assassination, but that was not
presented as a fact but only as conjecture.

Martin, however, was not the only one contacting the FBI concerning
the possible relationship of David Ferrie to the assassination.
Stanley himself had told the FBI that he suspected Martin and Ferrie
of involvement. It was a case of rats turning against each other.
But why? Why the Kennedy assassination?

Most critics of the JFK conspiracy theories attack the New Orleans
episode as so much smoke. They feel that Jim Garrison’s case had no
validity, no credibility. That Ferrie, Martin, Banister, and the
rest were all colorful characters but they had nothing to do with the
assassination. That Oswald never really visited the Camp Street
office of Guy Banister. That he never met any of the individuals
with whom he is usually associated: Clay Shaw, David Ferrie, or Guy
Banister himself.

But my approach to this case has been somewhat different. I’m not
trying to prove anything. I only want to point out the incredible
number of coincidences that multiply around this event and to suggest
that there is an underlying cause whose very nature escapes us even
as it is ubiquitous throughout history, our own personal histories as
well as our national one.

Ferrie, Martin and Stanley were turning on each other with reckless
abandon in the days after the assassination. It could be said to
originate from Jack Martin’s statements to investigators that Ferrie
was somehow involved with Oswald, but that’s not nearly the whole
case. Something transpired to make everyone nervous. One can pore
over the documents and exhibits of the Warren Commission Report for
years and not find a similar set of circumstances, where a gang of
strange persons turns on each other and squeals to the authorities
about their friends’ involvement with the assassination. It’s unique.

In New Orleans, if we believe that Oswald was involved in some way
with Banister, he was surrounded by anti-Castro Cubans, gun-runners,
and wandering bishops. In Dallas, he is surrounded by Russian
émigrés and oil men. The Dallas clique that includes George de
Mohrenschildt and Ruth Paine is every bit as strange as the New
Orleans “cathedral” at Camp Street. (It’s not for nothing that
Louisiana is divided into parishes instead of counties.) We had men
with CIA connections in New Orleans around Oswald, and now in Dallas
we have more of the same. How many readers of this blog know that
many CIA agents?

DeMohrenschildt himself was involved with the Russian Orthodox Church
Outside Russia, a known center for anti-Communist and specifically
anti-Soviet activity and espionage. Yet another Orthodox church in
the vicinity of Oswald.

And was Jack Martin really investigating “phony” churches on behalf
of the US government? Or was he trying to call someone’s attention
to something? Jack Martin remained a bishop with the American
Orthodox Catholic Church to the end of his days, even going so far as
to bring in another Banister associate, the corpulent attorney and
unapologetic racist Thomas Jude Baumler, to the Orthodox fold,
consecrating Baumler a bishop in August of 1974, nearly eleven years
after the Kennedy assassination and seven years after the beginning
of the Garrison investigation and the death of both Stanley and Ferrie.

From personal correspondence with an individual involved with this
affair, I learned that Baumler had already been ordained a priest by
Stanley years before; in other words, prior to Stanley’s death in
March, 1967. Baumler’s status in New Orleans society was assured; he
came from an old family and was associated with one of the famous
Mardi Gras “crewes”. In addition, according to my informant,
Baumler was also a Mason and belonged to the same lodge – the Etoile
Polair Lodge of the French Grand Orient – as Mafia don Carlos
Marcello, the man for whom David Ferrie was working on the day of
the assassination.

My informant goes on to insist that Martin could be relied upon to
furnish FBI files on “future applicants for Holy Orders”, a strange
capability for a hopeless drunk. It is widely rumored that Martin
had a source at FBI headquarters in New Orleans who provided him
these files, but he also made it known that he was an investigator
for the District Attorney’s office – something of which the DA was
presumably not aware! Yet he had an income of some kind, for he was
known to travel extensively throughout the United States for years on
one errand or another involving the bishops, a true “wanderer”.

What was Baumler’s interest in Carl Stanley and the American Orthodox
Catholic Church? Why was it attractive to become consecrated the
Bishop of Baton Rouge-New Orleans in this miniscule, obscure church
as late as 1974? Soon after his consecration, he went on to
consecrate another bishop, this time William Francis Forbes, in
October of 1974. And it was Baumler, after all, who told J. Gary
Shaw in 1981 that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for Guy Banister. He even
told Jim Garrison investigator Harold Weisberg in 1969 that he
personally met the elusive Oswald himself.

One of the other bishops of the American Orthodox Catholic Church –
Homer Ferdinand Roebke, an associate and colleague of Carl Stanley –
consecrated one Forest Ernest Barber on March 7, 1965, less than five
months after the Forbes consecration. As I am informed by
investigator David Guyatt, Barber was a member of the Augustan
Society (an “International Genealogical, Historical, Heraldic and
Chivalric Society” with some interesting associations) as well as of
the Shickshinny Knights of Malta, a far-right organization and secret
society that numbered among its initiates such intelligence notables
as the rabid right-winger Major General Charles A. Willoughby (the
former Adolf Tscheppe-Weidenbach and member of General MacArthur’s
intelligence staff during World War II) as well as Colonel Philip J
Corso, a man with a long background in intelligence dating from the
war who was the author of The Day After Roswell, a controversial
memoire of his experiences in the aftermath of the UFO crash in New
Mexico.

Truly, the Guy Banister office at Camp Street in New Orleans could
properly be considered a “cathedral” for wandering bishops. And a
clearinghouse for spies.

To be continued.

http://osdir.com/ml/culture.discuss.cia-...00000.html

:bandit:

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...2#post7176

[Helen Reyes]

...about Vonsiatsky's and de Mohrenschildts White Russian HQ in Harbin, Manchuria (Manchuoko) where he and his close fiends engaged in mind control, programming of Japanese Kamikaze pilots and programmed assassins which he sent on suicide missions into Russia directly from Harbin according to Prof. John Stephan in "The Russian Fascists."

Harbin was "special" in many ways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Helen, what is your major line of research into the JFK hit?

None, I'm a rank amateur and dilletante. Currently I think E Howard Hunt, some Minuteman guy, Cordon Hull, Maurice Bishop, George HW Bush and a few others tried to make it look like Castro hit JFK, but drew in enough "sponsors" everywhere to make any theory at least plausible. Miami was the planned venue, Jupiter Island a safe house of sorts, Oswald and Thornley and Ferrie and Shaw and Banister just half-involved for cover. But I don't know, I'm open to anything. OK back to the "wall"

PS I don't know how significant it is, but Shirer in Rise and Fall speculated Hitler took the swastika symbol from returning Bavarian freikorps volunteers who discovered it in the Baltics and put it on their helmets. The 4 Baltic states of Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all used it as a military insignia and on medals. He didn't seem to notice Blavatsky put it on her hardcover though.

[John Bevilaqua]

Helen, do you know what the Latin phrase behind INRI actually is? Where did INRI appear in Biblical History? No fair doing a Bing or a Google on it either.

oh yeah, ONI, too many three-letter agencies on the brain. Chances are OSI exists in multiple instances, Office of Special Investigations etc.

INRI: isn't it Iesos Nazoraean Rex Iudii?

Well, back to the Wailing Wall (post 1) for me, I've got to catch up.

[LOL] Stop the wailing or you will get the cryptonym of HR/CryOps instead of HR/PsyOps. <grin> See if you can pick out the dozen OSJs in the article just for fun then I will link them back into ManCand.

Yep, you got it basically. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews.

[Jan Klimkowski]

This is fascinating and I feel sure that there was another reason why these Russian fascists headquartered themselves in Harbin, Manchuko (assuming the date of this “exodus” was post Russian Revolution?).

It is a little known fact these days that circa 1918 the entire Tsar’s treasury was plundered and shipped by train (as I remember it now there were 80 odd cars). This train was under the supervision of a British Army officer (I am told) who was in control of the entire Russian railway network behalf of the Allied Expeditionary Force who had entered Russia at this time to (presumably) safeguard their interests.

Anyway, cutting to the chase ----- the train bearing the Tsar’s gold disappeared from the face of the world.

Back when I was investigating these things there were good and sound reason to conclude that most of this plunder ended up in Manchuoko and, in particular Harbin. And by a strange twist of fate, it was Harbin where the WWII Japanese plunder teams were headquartered. And by an even stranger twist of fate, in the late 1990’s the Russian government was still trying to trace the whereabouts of the Tsar’s gold and had made (or were in the process of making) legal claims against the Japanese government for purloining these treasures. This little and intriguing snippet of stately dispute promptly disappeared from the news pages never to reappear again. Ever.

Of course, the Japanese royal household of those times were closely allied with the British royal household and it just so happens (I am further told) that the unnamed (actually I do know his name) British Army officer who shunted trains for a living grew up on a royal estate in Scotland.

That naughty officer also diverted all the White Russian reinforcement and munitions trains from Moscow thus ensuring that an almost certain victory of the White Russian army over the Reds failed most miserably. History thence saw Russia become communist. And the British Army officer in question thereafter penned a letter to an unnamed superior (not necessarily his senior militarily speaking) saying words to these effect “you will understand why I did this” (i.e., divert the military reinforcement and munitions trains from Moscow).

David - what do these claims suggest? That the White Russian army was sabotaged by British interests, whilst the Tsar's gold was despatched to Harbin, where it was controlled by whom? British interests? Or to fund the interests of what became international fascism?

Thank you John for the kindness of your apology. On Martinism there have been various posts on this forum, principally, I believe, as it relates to the oh so very fake Priory of Sion aspect of the best selling book Holy Blood Holy Grail. But more also including the miserable Protocols, the UFO angle (which you’ve briefly mentioned earlier in your introduction) and JFK and Paedophilia and, oh well, it seems to lead almost everywhere in fact. Just enter the term in the search function and you’ll see the various threads I think.

And I’m all sure we are very happy for you to provide here any research on these fascinating (and for me very important) subjects, so please fire away.

The French artist, symbolist and initiate Jean Cocteau was alleged to be the Grandmaster of whatever the Priory of Sion may be. If we assume, for speculative purposes, that the Grandmaster Holy Blood line is a deep political construction of French fascists, it remains intriguing that these fascists selected Cocteau, with his particular set of occult interests, as a major C20th Grandmaster. Cocteau is a very resonant choice - regardless of that choice's ontological status.

[John Bevilaqua]

...about Vonsiatsky's and de Mohrenschildts White Russian HQ in Harbin, Manchuria (Manchuoko) where he and his close fiends engaged in mind control, programming of Japanese Kamikaze pilots and programmed assassins which he sent on suicide missions into Russia directly from Harbin according to Prof. John Stephan in "The Russian Fascists."

Harbin was "special" in many ways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Helen, what is your major line of research into the JFK hit?

None, I'm a rank amateur and dilletante. Currently I think E Howard Hunt, some Minuteman guy, Cordon Hull, Maurice Bishop, George HW Bush and a few others tried to make it look like Castro hit JFK, but drew in enough "sponsors" everywhere to make any theory at least plausible. Miami was the planned venue, Jupiter Island a safe house of sorts, Oswald and Thornley and Ferrie and Shaw and Banister just half-involved for cover. But I don't know, I'm open to anything. OK back to the "wall"

PS I don't know how significant it is, but Shirer in Rise and Fall speculated Hitler took the swastika symbol from returning Bavarian freikorps volunteers who discovered it in the Baltics and put it on their helmets. The 4 Baltic states of Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all used it as a military insignia and on medals. He didn't seem to notice Blavatsky put it on her hardcover though.

Hey you are on the right track. (he said, trying not to appear condescending)
Draper funded the Real Minutemen, E. Howard Hunt admitted to a limited back-up role and the Eugenics Gang of Bush, Farish, the Grays and Draper all had a hand in it. Definitely the Eugenicists, the OSJ types, especially the Armed Services Committee of OSJ, The Dallas John Birchers and some of Draper's Pioneer Fund psychos, too. And the Council for National Policy, too.

Check them all out at http://www.seekgod.ca I think it is.

CNP is loaded with the religious right wing extremist equivalents of the OSJ crowd. Read the other Russ Bellant book about "The Council for National Policy" also by South End Press in Boston or maybe on the web too. Or try
http://www.abebooks.com for all these older titles at bargain prices.

Check out http://www.5000watches.com/Kahn who wrote The Secret War Against Russia and another book too. This is a keyword search engine from the Albert Kahn tribute site.


Hey guys, I have to slow down now and run some errands toady and then do some real work. I have to maintain this site until the 1st of January. http://www.5000Watches.com

"Wanna buy a watch?", he said while opening his vest. Check it out. I can give you another 5% discount coupon for the holidays, too. <grin>

[Magda Hassan]

Here is another really strange irony which first attracted me to the OSJ about 10-15 years ago:

The official extended title of the organization is:

The Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, of (The Island of) Rhodes and of (The Island of) Malta,

My name is John and I am now from Rhode Island and I was raised by a father who taught at several military academies. He was the personal Spanish tutor to "Wild Bill" Donovan of the "Georgetown Set" and he had to receive a "Secret" or maybe even "Top Secret" clearance in order to do this. My mother was involved in law enforcement and police intelligence work and she is a devout Roman Catholic and I once worked on a project for the Sovereign Bank of New England. Strange huh?

Thank you for your comments.

John - thank you for revealing those details of your childhood. Did you ever come across any wandering bishops? Peter Levenda has done excellent investigative work on them, also - in part - from personal contact with some of their, ahem, holy men.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...tcount=115

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...ostcount=5

Possible sightings of Wandering Bishops: there was that priest, whose name escapes me at the minute, that was on the same Mexico trip as Oswald too and Rev. Gerald Lyman Kenneth Smith.
Edit: I remember now, he was Osborne but he also used another name. Don't they all?

[John Bevilaqua]

...about Vonsiatsky's and de Mohrenschildts White Russian HQ in Harbin, Manchuria (Manchuoko) where he and his close fiends engaged in mind control, programming of Japanese Kamikaze pilots and programmed assassins which he sent on suicide missions into Russia directly from Harbin according to Prof. John Stephan in "The Russian Fascists."

Harbin was "special" in many ways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Helen, what is your major line of research into the JFK hit?

None, I'm a rank amateur and dilletante. Currently I think E Howard Hunt, some Minuteman guy, Cordon Hull, Maurice Bishop, George HW Bush and a few others tried to make it look like Castro hit JFK, but drew in enough "sponsors" everywhere to make any theory at least plausible. Miami was the planned venue, Jupiter Island a safe house of sorts, Oswald and Thornley and Ferrie and Shaw and Banister just half-involved for cover. But I don't know, I'm open to anything. OK back to the "wall"

PS I don't know how significant it is, but Shirer in Rise and Fall speculated Hitler took the swastika symbol from returning Bavarian freikorps volunteers who discovered it in the Baltics and put it on their helmets. The 4 Baltic states of Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all used it as a military insignia and on medals. He didn't seem to notice Blavatsky put it on her hardcover though.

Ah yes, Harbin where the desperate Japanese joined up with the desperate White Russians and Hitler to try and defeat the Red Russians. The Japanese worked on Biological Warfare and the White Russians on Psychological Warfare out of Harbin. Eventually Vonsiatsky, Willoughby, Draper and their White Russian OSJ, Russian Orthodox Church, Hetman groups implemented Regime Change, the old fashioned way, when they snuffed JFK. The rest is history.

Check out The World Anti-Communist League. Maurice Gatlin and Guy Bannister ran The Anti-Communist League of the Carribbean out of the United Fruit building in New Orleans. Read Inside the League by Jon and Scott Anderson (1986, Dodd Meade perhaps) You also have to check out Smedley Butler "War is a Racket" and some of "The Banana Wars" titles about the Cabots, the Paines, the Drapers, the brothers Dulles, the Prestons, the Lodges and their 75 year series of Banana Wars ending with 25 Regime Changes in Banana Dictator Republics during the 20th Century.

There will be a test next Friday on all of this for HR/CryOps. Which Helen Reyes are you? Send me a PM. I am hoping you are the 21 year old model from San Antonio, Texas with the JeLo bubble features but I am guessing you are not.

I forget who Blavatsky was. Please refresh a fading memory.

[Magda Hassan]

I forget who Blavatsky was. Please refresh a fading memory.

Mme Elena Petrovna Blavatsky, born in Russia, was a founder of Theosophy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky

[John Bevilaqua]

Who was Cordon Hull? Nevah hoid of 'im. You mean Gordon Hall, I hope, I hope, I hope.

[John Bevilaqua]

Here is another really strange irony which first attracted me to the OSJ about 10-15 years ago:

The official extended title of the organization is:

The Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, of (The Island of) Rhodes and of (The Island of) Malta,

My name is John and I am now from Rhode Island and I was raised by a father who taught at several military academies. He was the personal Spanish tutor to "Wild Bill" Donovan of the "Georgetown Set" and he had to receive a "Secret" or maybe even "Top Secret" clearance in order to do this. My mother was involved in law enforcement and police intelligence work and she is a devout Roman Catholic and I once worked on a project for the Sovereign Bank of New England. Strange huh?

Thank you for your comments.

John - thank you for revealing those details of your childhood. Did you ever come across any wandering bishops? Peter Levenda has done excellent investigative work on them, also - in part - from personal contact with some of their, ahem, holy men.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...tcount=115

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...ostcount=5

Possible sightings of Wandering Bishops: there was that priest, whose name escapes me at the minute, that was on the same Mexico trip as Oswald too and Rev. Gerald Lyman Kenneth Smith.
Edit: I remember now, he was Osborne but he also used another name. Don't they all?

Ah yes, Albert C. Osborne from the A.C.C.C. American Council of Christian Churches. Just posted on him on Spartacus. Rode the Red River or something bus into Mexico next to Oswald from Laredo, Texas. He ran the Oaxchaca (sp?) schools for Assassins near Mexico City covered by Dick Russell. Jan and Magda I am having trouble keeping up with your postings. I gotta take a break real soon. More later...