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Allan, are the autopsy photos available? Also is there something a bit more detailed than the autopsy protocol? I understand they are not available on line becaue of the family but are they available to view. Can they be sent to me? I wont publish them. I would like to show them to a friend of mine who is a pathologist formerly at the coroner court here and go though some work with him on it.
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Magda:
There follows an excerpt from the Webpage:
"Please note that, due to commitments to members of the Pitzer family, I am not at liberty to show the photograph of the death scene or those taken at the autopsy. Anyone wishing to see these may do so by prior arrangement (aeaglesh@twcny.rr.com). (A small, partial representation of the death scene is shown here in Figure 2 and the entry wound may be seen here, reproduced by kind permission as an essential part of Dr. MacDonell's appraisal of the autopsy photographs here.)"
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I've sent you an email Allan.
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On the EF DiEugenio sarcastically asks why Pitzer lived so long? I don't think Jim realizes this is actually proof of Pitzer's legitimacy rather than the opposite. The fact Pitzer was left alone for so long actually reinforces his credibility rather than disproves it when looked at correctly. It shows that the plotters of the pre-autopsy were oblivious to the fact Pitzer had installed remote video cameras in the autopsy room with which he filmed the covert pre-autopsy. The reason they left Pitzer alone is because they were clueless, as they were that evening, that Pitzer had filmed their deception. Jim should realize that this gives a good picture of the structure of the plot by showing the covert plotters were separate from the Bethesda personnel who would have known about the remote video equipment. What it shows is that this covert pre-autopsy was ordered by the CIA personnel, or whatever military personnel, who were running the cover-up at Bethesda. It is for that very reason that they screwed-up and didn't realize the autopsy room possessed remote filming equipment Pitzer was dutifully operating from his office. They left Pitzer alone because they didn't realize he had filmed the pre-autopsy. Somewhere along the line word got out that Pitzer was in possession of seriously incriminating evidence. Hence the need for Dan Marvin. It's all very simple.
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Nice piece of piffle Albert. And, as usual, you left out the reason why I wrote what I did. (Yawn)
Bravo Bernice.
That is the whole point. We are supposed to be the people who actually do research and unearth facts. And not just regurgitate what is in other people's books. (Some of which should have never been published.)
But somehow, the myths about people like Pitzer outlive the facts.
I think Alan has done some good work here. I mean, has anyone done as much work on that case as he? In addition to the photos, the research that he was not left handed, he has raised some questions about Dennis David.
As for me personally, Nigel Turner was one of the worst things to ever happen to the JFK community. Here is a man who had more opportunities to do good work and reach a large audience than any of us put together will ever have.
And after the initial series, what did he give us?
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Albert Doyle Wrote:On the EF DiEugenio sarcastically asks why Pitzer lived so long? I don't think Jim realizes this is actually proof of Pitzer's legitimacy rather than the opposite. The fact Pitzer was left alone for so long actually reinforces his credibility rather than disproves it when looked at correctly. It shows that the plotters of the pre-autopsy were oblivious to the fact Pitzer had installed remote video cameras in the autopsy room with which he filmed the covert pre-autopsy. The reason they left Pitzer alone is because they were clueless, as they were that evening, that Pitzer had filmed their deception. Jim should realize that this gives a good picture of the structure of the plot by showing the covert plotters were separate from the Bethesda personnel who would have known about the remote video equipment. What it shows is that this covert pre-autopsy was ordered by the CIA personnel, or whatever military personnel, who were running the cover-up at Bethesda. It is for that very reason that they screwed-up and didn't realize the autopsy room possessed remote filming equipment Pitzer was dutifully operating from his office. They left Pitzer alone because they didn't realize he had filmed the pre-autopsy. Somewhere along the line word got out that Pitzer was in possession of seriously incriminating evidence. Hence the need for Dan Marvin. It's all very simple.
>Pitzer had installed remote video cameras in the autopsy room...<
>They didn't realize the autopsy room possessed remote filming equipment...<
Mr. Doyle:
What is your source for this information?
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Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:On the EF DiEugenio sarcastically asks why Pitzer lived so long? I don't think Jim realizes this is actually proof of Pitzer's legitimacy rather than the opposite. The fact Pitzer was left alone for so long actually reinforces his credibility rather than disproves it when looked at correctly. It shows that the plotters of the pre-autopsy were oblivious to the fact Pitzer had installed remote video cameras in the autopsy room with which he filmed the covert pre-autopsy. The reason they left Pitzer alone is because they were clueless, as they were that evening, that Pitzer had filmed their deception. Jim should realize that this gives a good picture of the structure of the plot by showing the covert plotters were separate from the Bethesda personnel who would have known about the remote video equipment. What it shows is that this covert pre-autopsy was ordered by the CIA personnel, or whatever military personnel, who were running the cover-up at Bethesda. It is for that very reason that they screwed-up and didn't realize the autopsy room possessed remote filming equipment Pitzer was dutifully operating from his office. They left Pitzer alone because they didn't realize he had filmed the pre-autopsy. Somewhere along the line word got out that Pitzer was in possession of seriously incriminating evidence. Hence the need for Dan Marvin. It's all very simple.
>Pitzer had installed remote video cameras in the autopsy room...<
>They didn't realize the autopsy room possessed remote filming equipment...<
Mr. Doyle:
What is your source for this information?
Alan,
When you address "Albert Doyle," you are almost certainly addressing an identity used by multiple posters intent upon disruption and the spreading of disinformation.
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What you are asking us to believe is that Pitzer was the head of the Bethesda Audio/Visual department; had installed special remote camera-operated filming equipment; had his wife say he got a phone call that afternoon and went to Bethesda, but somehow did not film the most important autopsy ever conducted at Bethesda. We are to follow the stern dictates of researchers who, like David Von Pein and Martin Hay, tell us Pitzer was not on the list of attendees while failing to grasp the most obvious clue that the reason he wasn't on that list was because he was in his office using the equipment he installed. There's only one way Dennis David could have seen an entry wound in the temple and that's if Pitzer had filmed the pre-autopsy alteration of that wound. It can't be any other way.
I think one of the worst things that could happen would be some of the best researchers becoming more effective destoyers of evidence than the intel counter-ops disinformationists themselves.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:What you are asking us to believe is that Pitzer was the head of the Bethesda Audio/Visual department; had installed special remote camera-operated filming equipment; had his wife say he got a phone call that afternoon and went to Bethesda, but somehow did not film the most important autopsy ever conducted at Bethesda. We are to follow the stern dictates of researchers who, like David Von Pein and Martin Hay, tell us Pitzer was not on the list of attendees while failing to grasp the most obvious clue that the reason he wasn't on that list was because he was in his office using the equipment he installed. There's only one way Dennis David could have seen an entry wound in the temple and that's if Pitzer had filmed the pre-autopsy alteration of that wound. It can't be any other way.
I think one of the worst things that could happen would be some of the best researchers becoming more effective destoyers of evidence than the intel counter-ops disinformationists themselves.
I am not asking you to believe a damned thing. I have asked a simple question:
How do you know that William Pitzer had installed remotely controlled video technology in the BNH autopsy room? This aspect is central to your thesis; presumably you are drawing on a reliable source. What is it?
Thank you.
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Thanks, Charles:
I wasn't aware of that. It is even more depressing to think that the pabulum espoused by "Albert Doyle" is a communal effort.
Allan
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