True sponsors:Texan extremists & Military Industrial compex vs eastern establishment

[Charles Drago]

That's true there is an equilibrium of power, a balance between different interests and factions, but they do have a common goal despite their disagreements. They are shifting the power balance as in a large corporate board.

What makes me disagree with the hypothesis they are all 'in it' is that idiots like say Daniel Estulin, Joseph Farrell and Alex Jones go down that avenue. Power does reside within the corporate structure with out a doubt but it's not hocus pocus its just cold hard cash!!!

Seamus,

I'd ask you to consider that all human endeavor is directed by the two power structures within us: the material and the spiritual.

By definition, accumulation of the former leads to a dark, twisted manifestation of the latter -- one that seeks to deny the "you can't take it with you" truism and manifests in the darkest of rituals.

But maybe George Carlin had the answer all along:

"If it's your new black suit, you probably can take it with you."

As for the idiots you cite: Don't shoot the message simply because the messenger is unacceptable. These people, after all, spread the message of conspiracy in the death of JFK.

CD

[Kenneth Kapel]

I feel that among the facilitators, in the JFK assassination, were the American, British, Israeli, Dutch, South African, Soviet, and Gehlen intelligence organizations. The elements in these organizations have no loyality except to perpetual war, greed, and Mammon. These groups have also been facilitators in my other ventures, but they still have their own infighting that sometimes delays their plans for ultimute world control. They are like one big brotherhood that knows no loyality except what benefits their own ends. Mr Obama is one of their stooges. Nominated over Hillary because he was perceived as a " peace candidate",even though among Mr Obamas biggest backers were the Chicago Crown family,who are large shareholders in the military industrial complex giant General Dynamics. Needless to say the Crowns are also uber Zionists. Yet the corporate run media would have you belivieve that Obama - Bibi are at war over the Obama plan for Middle Eastern peace, even though Obamas plan it the same plan as the last 2 American administratations,including the neo - con ladden Bush regime, it all a dog and pony show. I know a few folks who think that the Crowns had invovlement in the JFK murder, many of the same people see the Bush family & Halliburton having roles in the events of November 22, 1963.

[Seamus Coogan]

That's true there is an equilibrium of power, a balance between different interests and factions, but they do have a common goal despite their disagreements. They are shifting the power balance as in a large corporate board.

What makes me disagree with the hypothesis they are all 'in it' is that idiots like say Daniel Estulin, Joseph Farrell and Alex Jones go down that avenue. Power does reside within the corporate structure with out a doubt but it's not hocus pocus its just cold hard cash!!!

Seamus,

I'd ask you to consider that all human endeavor is directed by the two power structures within us: the material and the spiritual.

By definition, accumulation of the former leads to a dark, twisted manifestation of the latter -- one that seeks to deny the "you can't take it with you" truism and manifests in the darkest of rituals.

But maybe George Carlin had the answer all along:

"If it's your new black suit, you probably can take it with you."

As for the idiots you cite: Don't shoot the message simply because the messenger is unacceptable. These people, after all, spread the message of conspiracy in the death of JFK.

CD

In terms of an holistic view, yes. There's certainly an inner darkness that lingers about the real perpetrators. And as for shooting the messenger. Good job! Make sure it's between the eyes (but dont hit the satchel) the problem is, of course, I don't even want these guys commenting on JFK Nor anything for that matter. Just because they believe in a conspiracy doesn't mean I have too like 'em' in fact I believe they do more harm than good full stop. Lamar Waldron he too believes in a conspiracy lol!

[Seamus Coogan]

I feel that among the facilitators, in the JFK assassination, were the American, British, Israeli, Dutch, South African, Soviet, and Gehlen intelligence organizations. The elements in these organizations have no loyality except to perpetual war, greed, and Mammon. These groups have also been facilitators in my other ventures, but they still have their own infighting that sometimes delays their plans for ultimute world control. They are like one big brotherhood that knows no loyality except what benefits their own ends. Mr Obama is one of their stooges. Nominated over Hillary because he was perceived as a " peace candidate",even though among Mr Obamas biggest backers were the Chicago Crown family,who are large shareholders in the military industrial complex giant General Dynamics. Needless to say the Crowns are also uber Zionists. Yet the corporate run media would have you belivieve that Obama - Bibi are at war over the Obama plan for Middle Eastern peace, even though Obamas plan it the same plan as the last 2 American administratations,including the neo - con ladden Bush regime, it all a dog and pony show. I know a few folks who think that the Crowns had invovlement in the JFK murder, many of the same people see the Bush family & Halliburton having roles in the events of November 22, 1963.

WTF Dutch, SAF, Russian and the Gehlen org? Okay one was wearing clogs. the other had a little black boy who was his spotter, the next was driving around in a Volkswagon for the get away. Then you add in Bush and the Halliburtons as being involved in the Kennedy hit. Right so that means we add in a concrete mixer and an oil tanker. I take it you have never heard of CTKA nor reality for that matter. Haliburton was not around at the time of the Kennedy assassination in any capacity bar construction and concrete. The Torbitt document and Gemstone File reading population of this planet never stop to amuse me.

[Kenneth Kapel]

The security agencies that I mentioned have been intertwined for years. Israel was a huge supporter of apartheid South Africa, especially during the Cold War years. In a a number of UN votes regarding sanctions against SA the United States were the only dissenters. The US and Israel looked upon the Republic as a bulwark against Communism.
Haliburton was likely a major financial backer of the assassination, as were other oil and munitions companies and cartels.

[Albert Doyle]

The Wikipedia entry shows Halliburton was right at the heart of Texas/US oil interests in the decades prior to Kennedy. During Kennedy's time they were the only Oklahoma company to receive "E" status as an important US international exporter. And you know who protected those international oil interests...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

[Kenneth Kapel]

As far back as 1970 The Torbitt Document, aka Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal by William Torbitt, real name David Copeland, a Huston lawyer now deceased, listed Halliburton as a key financial player in the JFK assassination. We all know the role Halliburton played in the Cheney, oh I mean Bush43 administration.

[Seamus Coogan]

As far back as 1970 The Torbitt Document, aka Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal by William Torbitt, real name David Copeland, a Huston lawyer now deceased, listed Halliburton as a key financial player in the JFK assassination. We all know the role Halliburton played in the Cheney, oh I mean Bush43 administration.

The Torbitt Document is a total and utter sham. There never were any original documents for it all were facsimilies. I don't know about you but I'm sorry it doesn't fly with me. Oh and Kenn Thomas who put them all together from extremely dubious sources quoted Jim DiEugenio saying they were 'the most important documents in research'. The problem is Jim never said anything like that at all and in fact has said the complete opposite. My New piece on Farrell deals to this gibberish.

[Kenneth Kapel]

I'm aware that " Torbitt " is not viewed very favorably in many circles but it seems to me that he hit the nail on the head in regard to Halliburton and Henry Crown and Mr Crowns private attorney Albert Jenner who was a Warren Commision and the GOP lawyer on the Senate Watergate committee, before he was fired for saying Mr Nixon should be impeached.

[Seamus Coogan]

The Wikipedia entry shows Halliburton was right at the heart of Texas/US oil interests in the decades prior to Kennedy. During Kennedy's time they were the only Oklahoma company to receive "E" status as an important US international exporter. And you know who protected those international oil interests...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

So what if they had an 'E'. It doesnt mean much in the scale of things. Furthermore so what if they provided concrete for oil interests right throughout the 60's. Halliburton is more of a concern now than then. Any company with links to oil or natural resources is going to be some kind of assett. Whats scary is how Halliburton since 9/11 won numerous government contracts unopposed.