28-06-2011, 09:07 AM
Some years ago I watched an X-Files episode that showed Cigarette Smoking man' shooting Kennedy through the opening of the storm drain on Elm St. It was quite an exotic and fascinating theory and for a moment I was really excited about it. I have not heard it before so I decided to find out if there was any reference to the drain among researchers.
And yes, long before Chris Carter, researchers had discussed this theory. I read about early researcher Penn Jones who was a firm believer of this scenario. He claimed that
The shooter escaped through the drain system and ended up under the jail basement. He even claimed that "One year I crawled up all the way to the jail. It wore out the knees of my britches. You have to be a little bitty fellow to turn around down there"
View the link below to read his statement
http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/d...p?id=69417
Besides Penn Jones you ve got people like Robert Harris who believe that the fatal head shot originated throught the drain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqCtaBkyyE
Then I watched the documentary "The men who Killed Kennedy" where Tom Wilson explained his theory of photonics to prove the same thing. Another researcher Brazil crawled in the drain and said that he was able to escape through the pipes after 20 minutes to Trinity river. Unfortunately Brazil did not show any footage, photographic or video to prove that he managed what he claimed.
There are other notable researchers who share the same belief.
On the other hand we have the researchers who find this scenario not only ridiculous but improbable. They claim that the President would not have been visible from the storm drain until the limo rolled west another 54 - 56 feet past the fatal head shot location. The proponents of the theory answer back that the layers of asphalt have been added through out the years and the opening was twice as wide then than today.
They also add that the Z film has been altered and the fatal shot occurred further down near the steps. Not to forget the 1964 FBI re-enactment that showed that the 3rd shot happened near those steps.
The problem is that no matter what their claims no one has proved that they can crawl down through the pipes. Jerry Dealey published the following article "Giving the Dealey Plaza Sewer troll a lift"
http://www.dealey.org/sewtroll.pdf
In his articles proves that the pipe from the storm drain has a pipe of 15" diameter leading towards the pipes on Main St. to join a 24" pipe east of the junction/30" west pipe in the center of main St. Another 15" pipe from the drain was heading towards the TSBD and a 12" pipe to the storm drain near at the north end of the overpass.
He proved that it was impossible for a man to crawl through the drains since it was not possible to fit in the pipes. Add to this the morning rain, it would make the task more difficult.
If Brazil insists on the opposite he should provide us with photographic evidence, and if any one has witnessed Penn Jones to achieve what he claimed, please step forward.
To quote Fox Mulder, "I want to believe" (I can see Seamus laughing). However I have not seen the evidence and as Carl Sagan said, "extra-ordinary claims, require extra-ordinary evidence".
Unless they had rebuilt the whole drain system afterwards and we do not know it.
It is more likely that the shot originated from the storm drain near the north end of the overpass although we did not see any pickets missing. It is possible that the shooter was standing above the drain under the trees not inside the drain.
Other experts like Al Carrier and Sheryl Gutierrez believe that the head shot originated from the south end of the overpass.
There is also a chance that a shooter was standing on the Elm St. grass (north or south) and had a gun hidden inside a camera. A similar weapon was to be used against Castro in Chile but the plan did not materialize.
And yes, long before Chris Carter, researchers had discussed this theory. I read about early researcher Penn Jones who was a firm believer of this scenario. He claimed that
The shooter escaped through the drain system and ended up under the jail basement. He even claimed that "One year I crawled up all the way to the jail. It wore out the knees of my britches. You have to be a little bitty fellow to turn around down there"
View the link below to read his statement
http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/d...p?id=69417
Besides Penn Jones you ve got people like Robert Harris who believe that the fatal head shot originated throught the drain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqCtaBkyyE
Then I watched the documentary "The men who Killed Kennedy" where Tom Wilson explained his theory of photonics to prove the same thing. Another researcher Brazil crawled in the drain and said that he was able to escape through the pipes after 20 minutes to Trinity river. Unfortunately Brazil did not show any footage, photographic or video to prove that he managed what he claimed.
There are other notable researchers who share the same belief.
On the other hand we have the researchers who find this scenario not only ridiculous but improbable. They claim that the President would not have been visible from the storm drain until the limo rolled west another 54 - 56 feet past the fatal head shot location. The proponents of the theory answer back that the layers of asphalt have been added through out the years and the opening was twice as wide then than today.
They also add that the Z film has been altered and the fatal shot occurred further down near the steps. Not to forget the 1964 FBI re-enactment that showed that the 3rd shot happened near those steps.
The problem is that no matter what their claims no one has proved that they can crawl down through the pipes. Jerry Dealey published the following article "Giving the Dealey Plaza Sewer troll a lift"
http://www.dealey.org/sewtroll.pdf
In his articles proves that the pipe from the storm drain has a pipe of 15" diameter leading towards the pipes on Main St. to join a 24" pipe east of the junction/30" west pipe in the center of main St. Another 15" pipe from the drain was heading towards the TSBD and a 12" pipe to the storm drain near at the north end of the overpass.
He proved that it was impossible for a man to crawl through the drains since it was not possible to fit in the pipes. Add to this the morning rain, it would make the task more difficult.
If Brazil insists on the opposite he should provide us with photographic evidence, and if any one has witnessed Penn Jones to achieve what he claimed, please step forward.
To quote Fox Mulder, "I want to believe" (I can see Seamus laughing). However I have not seen the evidence and as Carl Sagan said, "extra-ordinary claims, require extra-ordinary evidence".
Unless they had rebuilt the whole drain system afterwards and we do not know it.
It is more likely that the shot originated from the storm drain near the north end of the overpass although we did not see any pickets missing. It is possible that the shooter was standing above the drain under the trees not inside the drain.
Other experts like Al Carrier and Sheryl Gutierrez believe that the head shot originated from the south end of the overpass.
There is also a chance that a shooter was standing on the Elm St. grass (north or south) and had a gun hidden inside a camera. A similar weapon was to be used against Castro in Chile but the plan did not materialize.
