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The Jackie Tapes
#11
the cds and print out,,; http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-a...e-released


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#12
I am sure the believers of the LBJ did it scenario will be having a party.Don't get too excited before we listen to the tapes. I would not comment on these news before the 13th of September.
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#13
The party began a few days ago, but i get the oops, now, like some taking a second thought that just perhaps, they jumped too quickly to a unfounded conclusion, we wait till they are released and we have the print out, i think there are going to be some very disappointed party people..bConfusedhutup:
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#14
I knew that tabloid story was phony instantly.

That recycled intern story made it pretty obvious that this was neither Jackie nor Caroline.
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#15
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:I knew that tabloid story was phony instantly.

That recycled intern story made it pretty obvious that this was neither Jackie nor Caroline.

here is the latest from the JFK Library of what can be expected...Jim, Dawn also mentioned the Enquirer story, this all came from a post from a forum blog type site, connected with the english newspaper i believe, i think perhaps someone started a thread about them, and another whom had read the tabloid, jumped in with their info, and ta da, away it went all over the web, bad news travels fast as we know, and it did again, i am thinking..we shall simply have to wait, and see when released, though imo i cannot see jackie saying what some hope she has, at the time, knowing it was going in writing, she was simply, too smart, and cagy and knew better......but as far as what she told Caroline when she was grown, is a horse of another colour..perhaps some day she will write the end all book, with information only known to her, she seems to have that quiet understated intelligence and cunningness her mother had.so far..take care b:phone:........
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Exhibits/Speci...Voice.aspx


In September 2011, the Kennedy Library will open a new exhibit
highlighting Mrs. Kennedy's 1964 oral history interview. Sealed for 47
years and scheduled to be published in September is a series of
wide-ranging conversations with historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in
which Mrs. Kennedy reveals her thoughts and impressions on topics
spanning John F. Kennedy's early campaigns to the Cuban Missile
Crisis. The conversations cover Mrs. Kennedy's impressions of world
leaders and events, her role as First Lady, and her life as a wife and
mother living inside the White House.

In the exhibit, excerpts from these conversations will be presented
alongside the objects, documents, and photographs that chronicle the
events Mrs. Kennedy describes. This unique presentation, joining
iconic treasures from the Kennedy Library with the words of Mrs.
Kennedy, sheds new light both on the great events and personalities of
the 20th century, as well as on the extraordinary sensibilities of the
woman describing them.
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#16
Contains much of the Camelot Interview; with Theodore H White..The Camelot Documents;

http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/Camelot.pdf

it states within that when Jacqueline donated the information, they were to be held until ONE YEAR after her death.........so who the h mucked that up as well, perhaps the answer is within, if so i shall return...:ballchain:ok it says that white's notes were released one year after her death.......so that's that i guess.....eh:loco:

[size=12]Much of the substance of the Camelot interview appeared [/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12][size=12]"You know when he was shot. He had such a wonderful
[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]in the LIFE essay, "For President Kennedy: An Epilogue." The[/SIZE]
[size=12]magazine held the presses that November night, at a cost of[/SIZE]
[size=12]$30,000 an hour for overtime, while Mr. White talked with Mrs.[/SIZE]
[size=12]Kennedy. He finally dictated his story to editors form the[/SIZE]
[size=12]telephone in the Kennedy kitchen at 2 a.m., with his interview[/SIZE]
[size=12]subject hovering nearby.......
[size=12]Mr. White, who died in 1986, revealed many more details[/SIZE]

[size=12]and impressions from the interview in his 1978 memoir, "
[/SIZE][size=12]In[/SIZE]
[size=12]Search of History[/SIZE][size=12],"[/SIZE]

[size=12][size=12][size=12]Dave Powers came running to me, my legs my hands were
[/SIZE]covered with his brains...when Dave Powers saw this he burst[/SIZE]
out weeping. From here down"(here Mrs. Kennedy made a
gesture about the level of the forehead above the eyes) "his head
was so beautiful. I'd tried to hold the top of his head down,
maybe I could keep it in...I knew he was dead..
[/SIZE]

Then one second later I thought, why did I wash the
blood off? I should have left it there, let them see what they've
done...If I'd just had blood and caked hair when" (they took
pictures of swearing in). "Then later I said to Bobby what's the
line between histrionics and drama. I should have kept the blood
on.
[size=12]I always remember[/SIZE]
[size=12]when Ambassador Kennedy had his stroke Jack said, don't let[/SIZE]
[size=12]that happen to me when I go...I saw them going in and maybe he[/SIZE]
[size=12]would live...and I said to myself, `I thought: I'll take care of him[/SIZE]
[size=12]every day of his life. I'll make him happy, but I knew he was

dead'...I just wanted to be with him when he died. Doctors are so
bossy, they boss you around. I remember his operation at
Columbia when I was supposed to be with him, we promised
each other, and they took him away and I didn't see him again
for hours and hours...and I said: They're never going to keep me
away from him again.
So I saw them going in and so I thought he's still
alive...then Doc Burkeley came towards me just shaking (with
sobs)...he said, `Mrs Kennedy you need a sedative'...I said, I
want to be in there when he dies...so Burkeley forced his way
into the operating room and said, `It's her prerogative, it's her
prerogative...' and I got in, there were about forty people there.
Dr. Perry wanted to get me out. But I said `It's my husband, his
blood, his brains are all over me.' Perry is a very tall, bald man.
But some of the doctors were gentle. The priest. This priest.
They kept trying to get a priest...there was a sheet over Jack, his
foot was sticking out of the sheet, whiter than the sheet...I took
his foot and kissed it. Then I pulled back the sheet. His mouth
was so beautiful, his eyes were open. They found his hand under
the sheet, and I held his hand all the time the priest was saying
extreme unction.

[size=12][size=12]"You know when he was shot. He had such a wonderful[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]expression on his face. You know that wonderful expression he[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]had when they'd ask him a question about one of the ten million[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]gadgets they have in a rocket; just before he's answer; he looked
[/SIZE]
[size=12]puzzled; and then he slumped forward.


[size=12][size=12]Burkeley was clutching me,[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]shaking me. I called Kenny O'Donnell...I said, you just go to get[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]me in there alone before they close that coffin. When we were[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[size=12][size=12]married I gave him a St. Christopher's medal, like a coin clip.
[/SIZE]
[size=12]But Jack loses everything. When Patrick died last summer, when

the time came that we had to put him in the coffin we had to put
something that belonged to both of us...Jack said put in the Saint
Christopher's medal...but I couldn't put this medal in because it
hadn't been with us long enough, I'd just got it for the tenth
anniversary of our marriage to replace the other one, I couldn't
put anything in. So I said to Kenny O'Donnell you've got to get me in.
[size=12]"Everytime we got off the plane that day, three times they[/SIZE]
[size=12]gave me the yellow roses of Texas. But in Dallas they gave me[/SIZE]
[size=12]red roses. I thought how funny, red roses--so all the seat was full[/SIZE]
[size=12]of blood and red roses. Dr. Burkeley brought out the two roses

and said `I want you to have one.' At Bethesda I gave him back
one-- and Dr. Burkeley said -- this is the great treasure of my
life.
[/SIZE][size=12]"...don't let it be forgot that for[/SIZE]
[size=12]one brief shining moment there[/SIZE]
[size=12]was Camelot."

[size=12]But there's this one thing I wanted to say. I'm so ashamed[/SIZE]
[size=12]of myself. Jack...everything he ever quoted was Greek or[/SIZE]
[size=12]Roman...no, don't protect me now...one thing kept going through

my mind the line from a musical comedy. I kept saying to
Bobby, I've got to talk to somebody, I've got to see somebody. I
want to say this one thing. It's been almost an obsession with
me. This line from the musical comedy's been almost an
obsession with me. At night before going to bed...we had an old
Victrola. He'd play a couple of records. I'd get out of bed at night
and play it for him when it was so cold getting out of bed. It was
a song he loved, he loved `Camelot.' It was the song he loved
[/SIZE][size=12]Kennedy Assassination Chronicles Fall 1995[/SIZE]
[size=12]most at the end...on a Victrola ten years old...it's the last record,[/SIZE]
[size=12]the last side of' Camelot,' sad `Camelot.'...'don't let it be forgot[/SIZE]
[size=12]that for one brief shining moment there was Camelot.'

"When I came home I looked for it again. I wanted to say,
`There'll be other great presidents; and the Johnsons have been
simply
wonderful to
me. Do you
know what I
think of
history. The
more I used
to read of
history, the
more I
thought -- when something is written down,
does that make it history? -- the things they
say? But Jack loved history so. But history to
me was about Jack. But history made him
what he was..
[size=12]I'm going to bring up my[/SIZE]
[size=12]son. I want him to grow up to be a good boy. I

have no better dream for him. I want John-John
to be a fine young man. He's so interested in
planes; maybe he'll be an astronaut or just plain
John Kennedy fixing planes on the ground.

[size=12]"Caroline -- she held my hand like a
soldier, she's my helper; she's mine now. But he
(John-John) is going to belong to the men now.
Caroline asked me what kind of prayer should I
say? And I told her to say either 'Please God take
care of Daddy' or 'Please God be nice to Daddy.'"
"Let the skeptics snort about Camelot, but there was
something during the Kennedy years that was magic. Jackie was
more of that than anyone admitted for a long while. She
smoothed the rough Kennedy edges. As much as anyone in those
heady days, she grasped the epic dimensions of the adventure.
No small portion of the glamour of the Kennedy stewardship
that lives on today came from her standards of public propriety
and majesty."
[/SIZE]
Hugh Sidney, 1994
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#17
The Disinfo gets Wilder And Wilder


In a web article speaking of the Jackie tapes this quote was included:


Quote:Some sources close to tapes recorded by Dick Cavett stored in a vault in Bayonne, say that Lyndon Johnson was also responsible for the death of Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix. "He was a wild Texan," the Bayonne insider said.


Lyndon Johnson, the one-size-fits-all disinfo patsy...


(I think they mean CIA)
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#18
Charles

You mentioned William Walton's mission:

William Walton, friend of the Kennedys, speaking on behalf of RFK and Jaqcueline Kennedy:

"Perhaps there was only one assassin, but he did not act alone.....Dallas was the ideal location for such a crime."
- Brothers, by David Talbot, p. 32. Walton delivered his message in Moscow to Georgi Bolshakov, who had been a backchannel to the Soviet leadership and was asked to repeat it to Khrushchev. This incident occurred a week after the assassination; the story is also recounted in One Hell of a Gamble.

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.ph..._Officials

From the earliest rumblings of "LBJ" in the "never-before-released Jackie tapes" it smelled like more of Zirbel-McClellan-Hunt deflecting rejection of Warrenism to the Velcro Villain.

Who obsequiously appointed Helms in '66 and left the stage like a little girl in '68, months before also not assassinating Robert F. Kennedy.
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#19
I might add:

Dallas, and NOT Chicago.
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#20
for those interested a follow up Jackie article...b

Why Jackie O was really Jackie ohhh!
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/inde...48794.html
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