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In The Shadow of Dallas and LA
#31
Ah, Seamus. I wasn't suggesting that Morales planned the assassination or anything like that. What I was saying was this: Any man with the "credentials" of Morales, with him A) being a major mover in the Phoenix Program, and B) being deeply involved in both the Arbenz coup in 1954 and the capture and assassination of Che Guevara years later, very well could have been involved in the assassination of the President, and most likely was. As for his involvement in the RFK assassination, I will say this: If he was involved, it certainly wasn't the man in the TV excerpts and pictures that has been pawned off as Morales. I hope that clears some things up.
"Logic is all there is, and all there is must be logical."

"Truth is logic, and logic is truth."

"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson

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#32
James Lewis Wrote:Ah, Seamus. I wasn't suggesting that Morales planned the assassination or anything like that. What I was saying was this: Any man with the "credentials" of Morales, with him A) being a major mover in the Phoenix Program, and B) being deeply involved in both the Arbenz coup in 1954 and the capture and assassination of Che Guevara years later, very well could have been involved in the assassination of the President, and most likely was. As for his involvement in the RFK assassination, I will say this: If he was involved, it certainly wasn't the man in the TV excerpts and pictures that has been pawned off as Morales. I hope that clears some things up.

Thats cool Jim sorry for being a little grumpy with you buddy. All of these disinfo stooges popping up outta nowhere at the moment is seriously disconcerting.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#33
Trust me, Seamus, I understand totally.
"Logic is all there is, and all there is must be logical."

"Truth is logic, and logic is truth."

"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson

"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on." - William S. Burroughs
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#34
I am reading Donald Gibson, Battling Wall Street: The Kennedy Presidency. I have recently finished reading George Michael Evica, A Certain Arrogance with introduction by Charles Robert Drago.


When I find a line such as:



They would be on the ground with the operators to let them know the Op was real and there was equal risk.




I supply a link to the Prouty letter to Krulak regarding the Lansdale in Dealey hypothesis.


In the discussion of Morales I find him to be possessed of the precise combination of proven efficiency and ruthlessness required to perform the mechanics.


I do not think in terms of prime mover; that's a concept I haven't seen since studying various proofs of God in college religion coursework.


I cite again the best summation of useful conceptualizing I've encountered:



I am led to believe -- but don't quite yet know -- that all of these factors, plus what I term the perceived (by the Sponsors) inherent power of JFK to initiate major and lasting paradigm shifts in how business is done and how control is maintained not just in the U.S. but around the world, produced the critical mass necessary to force the Sponsors to act.







From Arrogance I see Dulles as serving clients. From Battling I see Kennedy as against the grain in the Big Game, the exploitation of resources of the Third World in the neocolonialism of the major financial players.


Hence the need for a series of CIA-enabled regime changes.


What is the JFK assassination if not that: a regime change, a coup d'etat. Who does one use.


As for the severing of the assassination and the coverup. I've never found that.


A seamless masterpiece, the culmination of the life's work of the best in the field.


In service to the largest possible interests, for Kennedy threatened those.


The preparation of Oswald through manipulation of his file and his public role playing enables all the braying jackasses for the last half century to refer to the "communist" who killed Kennedy.


The motivation for that coverup is the same as for the RFK hit, but not separate from the need for the unspeakable practices and unnatural acts of the continuing securty state.


Karzai is assassinated, having been defended by Posner, having been charged with being a CIA tool and a druglord. A laughable redundancy protected by a plagiarizing poof, but there is no humor.


There can be no slip of the mask, as Charles notes, due to indiscretions. Morales' to Rocky, Rosselli to Anderson, all must observe the contract. Caesar's wife.


Now, Cesar is another matter and Michael Calder is working on that one.


Buckley spoke of the Jeweler's Eye. When he was Firing Lines at Mark Lane, it was more Alex Jones with electric voice gun, Lane the Communist.


Our friend the former Army intelligence specialist referring to Lane as a "Communist" and Kennedy as "very dangerous."


Well, he was.


And Dave Morales said, "We took care of that"--and Allen Dulles, "little Kennedy."


Nice, nice, very nice
so many tough guys in the same device.
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#35
Seamus - in my judgement, your series of posts in this thread in the last couple of days, culminating in your most recent post, are unacceptable.

Your attack on Zach Robertson has been moved to the Bear Pit.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#36
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Seamus - in my judgement, your series of posts in this thread in the last couple of days, culminating in your most recent post, are unacceptable.

Your attack on Zach Robertson has been moved to the Bear Pit.

Lol I thought something had to give no complaints from me. But I will say that seriously was my last comment on the issue with the guy. And should Zach want to discuss anything I shall kindly leave him be.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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