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Let Us Treat Jim Fetzer with Kindness
#11
I sometimes wonder who is out there "laughing with delight..." at the unfortunate fall of Jim Fetzer? Then I realize that I know who it is.

"Oh, and there we were all in one place
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again

"So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devil's only friend

"And as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan's spell

"And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died ..."
GO_SECURE

monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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#12
It could be he has genuinely cracked under the pressure of assassination research.
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#13
Earlier today at The Swamp, Dawn Meredith made mention of this thread and dropped the name -- mine -- that must not be referenced.

Tonight it seems that Dawn's post has been disappeared.

Am I missing it, Dawn?
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#14
If he is an op he approached it from a weird limited hang-out approach which divulged semi-accurate information about the Zapruder Film alteration. He's now running butt naked down a crazy path no one will follow...
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#15
Charles

Are you absolutely convinced that Dr. Fetzer is a disturbed man that needs our compassion, a failing warrior, or he is a calculating mind with a hidden agenda, trying to disrupt our efforts to find out the truth? A sheep in wolves clothes?
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#16
Charles Drago Wrote:Earlier today at The Swamp, Dawn Meredith made mention of this thread and dropped the name -- mine -- that must not be referenced.

Tonight it seems that Dawn's post has been disappeared.

Am I missing it, Dawn?

You are correct CD. A few hours after I posted that, just the sentiments you expressed, I went back to the thread and my post had been deleted. I was given no warning. I did not copy and paste your words, so I am not aware of any violation that I engaged in. I just wanted the many over there to share in your sentiment. We are left to draw our own conclusions. I guess there must be a new rule: "Thou shall not type the words Charles Drago." Or perhaps the mods don't share your sentiments and are actually enjoying this horror.

Dawn
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#17
Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:Charles

Are you absolutely convinced that Dr. Fetzer is a disturbed man that needs our compassion, a failing warrior, or he is a calculating mind with a hidden agenda, trying to disrupt our efforts to find out the truth? A sheep in wolves clothes?

No.
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#18
Dawn Meredith Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:Earlier today at The Swamp, Dawn Meredith made mention of this thread and dropped the name -- mine -- that must not be referenced.

Tonight it seems that Dawn's post has been disappeared.

Am I missing it, Dawn?

You are correct CD. A few hours after I posted that, just the sentiments you expressed, I went back to the thread and my post had been deleted. I was given no warning. I did not copy and paste your words, so I am not aware of any violation that I engaged in. I just wanted the many over there to share in your sentiment. We are left to draw our own conclusions. I guess there must be a new rule: "Thou shall not type the words Charles Drago." Or perhaps the mods don't share your sentiments and are actually enjoying this horror.

Dawn
Turns out JF asked that my post be deleted. He took offense. Sadly, at this point it matters little if he's flipped his lid or turned Mockingbird, as the result is the same. He is making a mockery of legitimate research. His rantings are costing him old friendships and that he seems not to care one iota is most odd. I guess I place more value on friendship than some and I also admit when I have made a mistake. I consider constructive feed back valuable. Hard to know what to make of this. But I do know one thing: if he is indeed in trouble mentally and is refusing help there is little anyone aside from family can do. CD asks a good question: Where are his family members? Surely the Ed forum is not the only place where his rantings are occurring.
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#19
WARNING: CONTAINS COURSE LANGUAGE!

I just checked out the two most recent Fetzer/Cinque threads over at the Swamp. I can't find the thread where Dawn's CD post was deleted. Could you possibly post the link/s.

I find it all quite incredible.

Despite not finding what I sought, I went and over and had a look. All I have to say is what a freaking mess! I really don't know how Don Jeffries can keep a straight face or decry those of us at DPF who are far less tolerant of the crap voices he so loves to hear over yonder. In particularly when you see the utterly f***** thread he and Tom Scully recently presided over they had to shut down.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....opic=19089

I've got to say something is pretty f***** wrong guys, when it seems that a total fink like Cinque can be protected by mods who advocate for his right to speak. Don and Tom still believe that all researchers are equal under God, all have a right to speak and they want us all to embrace bullshit on a level playing field. Okay thats fine if your into touchy feely. But please explain to me guys why Fetzer can make some horrific calls about say GB and others over there without any form of recourse. Yet Dawns post get's deleted with CD's message after a single complaint from this massive, psychotic conspirahypocritical asswipe?

What kind of jive ass Forum is Spartacus anyway? Don and Tom would likely call it a 'fair and democratic one'. Please don't make me laugh with that sanctimonious crap.

All it does nowadays is house the rejects and refugees of Lancer, Black Op Radio and dare I say the DPF.

When good guys and decent researchers like GB, Greg Parker, Lee Farley, Glenn Viklund and others get harrassed for giving a guy like Cinque jib. You have a problem of elephantitis proportions. Good god if Don or Tom was modding here lemme tell you. I'd be kicked out, Albert, Vas and probably Lauren would follow. However, its not to worry we'd all be replaced by John Hankey, Cinque, Greg Douglas, Scully, Morrow, Nelson and any other war criminal of logic you could name. What's so funny in the above thread is Boner Morrow's pondering 'why oh why their membership was falling'. Can you believe that? I mean this is the skill level of the people running that joint. They can't see by allowing frauds like Morrow and Cinque to run with gay abandon (Boner the boob man will like that) they turn people off and destroy the credibility of said forum as a place of research, learning and proper debate. Which it actually used to be. Here at the DPF I'm very proud to say I don't mind the fact a person has to earn the respect of the owners and the mods to be allowed to post regularly. CD may be a little obtuse but I hasten to say, it's the weeding out of the chaff that makes the DPF a great place to get peer review from. You have to earn you're right to citizenship, this may not work in overall society. But it sure as f*** works in a genuinely well run and organised forum!

I hate pissing in their pockets but thank god for the DPF not to mention Dawn, CD, Jan and Magda! I pity all the good people at the Ed Forum who have to put up with that shite!
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#20
Seamus,

I continue to be amazed that those of you who don't post at the EF are so concerned with what's going on there, to the extent that you critique the performance of moderators like me. I don't claim to be a "great" moderator, however one would define "great" for such a position. I do the best I can, and my policy is usually to be hands-off, regardless of how I feel about the individual poster.

It is quite sad to see Jim Fetzer's performance on the Cinque thread. I share most of your feelings about this. However, I don't think it's proper for anyone to publicly speculate about his mental state, or to quote the alleged feelings of his brother, as was done in an earlier post. The mods at EF catch flack from all sides, but we do the best we can. There are a lot of posts that offend somebody.

You include Glenn Viklund as a "good researcher." Are you aware that he is a lone nutter? I assure you that I wouldn't want to ban you, or Albert, or Charles, or any other poster here you can think of. I do object when nasty personal attacks that go over the line are posted, but it's difficult to distinguish that from the general unpleasant tone of too many regular posters.

At this point, there isn't very much to like about the research community. Difficult personalities, bombastic egos, intolerance and arrogance seem to be everywhere. I've given up on ever getting any decent number of people to coalesce together behind the general premise that Oswald didn't do it. But despite it all, I remain utterly engrossed in this subject.
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