Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[Mark Stapleton]

I think you are suggesting that the interests of the Sponsors and the interests of Israel are two separate things. I'm saying they are one and the same.

That's a mistake. They share some common interests. Like Israeli hawks and right wing Christian zionists have some common interests but they are not one and the same. Israel, as a nation state, too will be sacrificed when it suits. As will any other. Other alliances with be formed to continue the project. It is supranational.

I think you're wrong. Israel sponsored the assassination and have flourished ever since.

Israel is the parasite on the American body politic and they will sacrifice America after they have extracted the last drop out of them. You are aware of the funding America dutifully provides to Israel, despite America's badly damaged economy? The protection America affords Israel in the UN despite its countless human rights abuses? The recent agreement forced out of Obama for even greater financial and military support supposedly because of the Arab spring (posted elsewhere on this board by Ed Jewitt). The real reason for this increased funding is of course so Israel can satisfy its regional ambitions. Obama can't stare down the Zionist lobby with the election so close.

No Magda, while they are partners in causing mayhem in the Middle East, it's Israel who calls the shots and America does what its told. Israel controls the US Congress lock, stock and barrel. The recent increased funding bill I alluded to was passed by 460 odd to 2, Ron Paul being one of the dissenters. They control the western media. The rest of the world can see it clearly. Many in the west can't. Decades of dumbing down by the western media has taken its toll.

Moshe Dayan once said, "America offers us money, weapons and advice. We accept the money and weapons and reject the advice".

[Phil Dragoo]

Post #31:

Israel sponsored the assassination

That is to say: sponsored.

All else stacks under Israel.

All the research of John Newman on James Angleton.

That of John Armstrong on Harvey and Lee.

Everything uncovered by Harold Weisberg and Mark Lane, Robert Groden and L. Fletcher Prouty.

Every position taken by every president including James Earl Carter, subject to veto by Zionists in Israel.

No move is made by Petraeus or Panetta before him, or Gates before him, back to 1947, but that it benefits Zionism.

Hoover, Dullesbut enoughthey are all, Marc Antony, all Zionists.

When history attempts to break free, Zionist ex machina, descending on a wire, reaching the stage to reassert the parasitic grip.


There is a parasite gripping something.

Ptolemy obsessed with epicycles, eschewing ellipses.

Queeg with his steel balls, explaining the strawberries, proving beyond the shadow of a doubt there was a duplicate key.

[Charles Drago]

Mark, you're my friend and comrade.

But "Zionist Israel" was no more "the" Sponsor of the JFK hit than any other usual suspect.

Please share your definition of "Sponsor" in this context.

Sure Charles. My definition of sponsor is chief organiser and funder.

Sorry Mark, but those roles are played by Facilitators.

[Charles Drago]

Mark, you're my friend and comrade.

But "Zionist Israel" was no more "the" Sponsor of the JFK hit than any other usual suspect.

Please share your definition of "Sponsor" in this context.

Sure Charles. My definition of sponsor is chief organiser and funder.

Sorry Mark, but those roles are played by Facilitators.

I might add that "chief" needs to be clarified. And you should consider the likelihood that the solicitation of significant funds from mid- and high-level Facilitators helped to create paper trails that later could be used to support False Sponsorship insulations and blackmail/control operations.

[Seamus Coogan]

Good stuff Vas. Al you dissapoint me. Further I dealt to our dear Mr Stapleton on this Pipes inspired bullshit on a thread here many moon's ago. I'm surprised he's crawled back from out his hole. I don't anticipate Mr Stapleton will be here to long.

Ya, how does a post mocking our own dear CD turn the frig into "the Jews killed JFK"? Ironic since that original cowardly no name called CD and this site a zionist site. Hard to keep up with the trolls. Atleast Boner uses his real name. (And that is the last positive thing I have to say about him )

Dawn

He uses his real name and we call him Boner love ROFL. Oh Dawn isn't life cruel to some! I'd put ten cents either way 'Boner' probably knows who Mt Anon is mate!

[Seamus Coogan]

Good stuff Vas. Al you dissapoint me. Further I dealt to our dear Mr Stapleton on this Pipes inspired bullshit on a thread here many moon's ago. I'm surprised he's crawled back from out his hole. I don't anticipate Mr Stapleton will be here to long.

Predictably shrill and incoherent. Obviously not a fan of free speech and the open exchange of ideas.

Al what you are missing is that I gave Mr Stapleton a good he old fashioned SC drubbing last time he was here almost 18 months ago. The other issues you bring up I think I have either covered there or are an irrelevancy. I wrote just under a year ago the following...

As for Echavarria that dude was under investigation about his links to numerous individuals and blurted out that the Jews were in on it in 1994. Effectively meaning Jewish Casino owners. He'd go on too make up all kinds of crazy shit as you can see here. Furthermore Echavarria was quoting from Sierra. Who probably didn't even say this at all.

http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diar...apter12/24.htm

[Albert Doyle]

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I think you are suggesting that the interests of the Sponsors and the interests of Israel are two separate things. I'm saying they are one and the same.

In any case, if serving the interests of the Sponsors means protecting and covering up for Israel's actions, doesn't that indicate that the Sponsors and Israel share common interests? And that these interests clearly overrode those of the US, which LBJ had sworn to uphold?

The US would never let itself be controlled by a small country like Israel unless it served a purpose. Once you understand Johnson served Israel's purposes as a power that didn't have to unless it wanted to then you understand the Sponsors were in control of both Israel and the US. Likewise the US and its security apparatus would never let a foreign nation assassinate a chief of state unless it wanted to. Or even better, unless those trying to create false Sponsors wanted it to.


What this comes down to is whether Piper's suggestion that Ben Gurion gave the hit order on JFK is true? Even Piper says he doesn't have proof. In my opinion, whether or not Ben Gurion gave the hit order, Final Judgment exposes a critical Mediterranean underground that was directly connected to Clay Shaw's Permindex cabal. I think my point is not to throw out this very legitimate Kennedy Assassination Mediterranean china shop by either knee-jerking anti-semitism, deep political structure, or anti-jewish antipathy too strongly. There's a very important nexus shown in Final Judgment that bridges Israel, the US Military Industrial Complex, the US mob, CIA, and the anti-Castro underground that might very adequately explain the "Jews are behind us now" spoken by Homer Echevarria.

[Mark Stapleton]

Sorry Mark, but those roles are played by Facilitators.

So what role is played by the sponsor?

[Mark Stapleton]

The US would never let itself be controlled by a small country like Israel unless it served a purpose. Once you understand Johnson served Israel's purposes as a power that didn't have to unless it wanted to then you understand the Sponsors were in control of both Israel and the US.

Then why didn't they prevent the attack by Israel on the USS Liberty?

Is it in the interests of these sponsors to have their crucial assets at loggerheads?

[Mark Stapleton]

I think my point is not to throw out this very legitimate Kennedy Assassination Mediterranean china shop by either knee-jerking anti-semitism, deep political structure, or anti-jewish antipathy too strongly.

Does this mean Israel should be above suspicion?