Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[Mark Stapleton]

You have not offered ANY EVIDENCE as to how Israel benefitted...

Where again is the BENEFIT from JFK dying?

My post #238.

[Charles Drago]

Albert's right. You never seem to address the issue.

There is no "Albert."

[Don Jeffries]

Charles (and Monk) have gone from questioning the validity of Albert Doyle's online persona to directly accusing him of being impersonated by a person or persons unknown. For those of us who don't have the ability to determine such things from examining posts on an internet forum, Charles' emphatic self- confidence about this provides insufficient proof.

Don't you have the capability to track the IP addresses of those who post here? If all of Doyle's posts come from the same one or two addresses, this is a strong indication he is one person, posting probably from home and work. If there are multiple IP addresses, then you've found Thoreau's trout in the milk. Or you could just postulate that a strange cabal is taking turns posting from the same computer.

Why don't you do this and let us know what you discover? Or, you can continue to cryptically refer to "his" mysterious nonexistence, while he conveniently refrains from protesting.

[Phil Dragoo]

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[Mark Stapleton]

Charles (and Monk) have gone from questioning the validity of Albert Doyle's online persona to directly accusing him of being impersonated by a person or persons unknown. For those of us who don't have the ability to determine such things from examining posts on an internet forum, Charles' emphatic self- confidence about this provides insufficient proof.

Don't you have the capability to track the IP addresses of those who post here? If all of Doyle's posts come from the same one or two addresses, this is a strong indication he is one person, posting probably from home and work. If there are multiple IP addresses, then you've found Thoreau's trout in the milk. Or you could just postulate that a strange cabal is taking turns posting from the same computer.

Why don't you do this and let us know what you discover? Or, you can continue to cryptically refer to "his" mysterious nonexistence, while he conveniently refrains from protesting.

I haven't really noticed the literary inconsistencies Charles points to. I've read quite a lot of Albert's posts now. I don't know why Albert doesn't respond to such an allegation. He must have his reasons.

[Charles Drago]

Charles (and Monk) have gone from questioning the validity of Albert Doyle's online persona to directly accusing him of being impersonated by a person or persons unknown. For those of us who don't have the ability to determine such things from examining posts on an internet forum, Charles' emphatic self- confidence about this provides insufficient proof.

Don't you have the capability to track the IP addresses of those who post here? If all of Doyle's posts come from the same one or two addresses, this is a strong indication he is one person, posting probably from home and work. If there are multiple IP addresses, then you've found Thoreau's trout in the milk. Or you could just postulate that a strange cabal is taking turns posting from the same computer.

Why don't you do this and let us know what you discover? Or, you can continue to cryptically refer to "his" mysterious nonexistence, while he conveniently refrains from protesting.

Don,

Given the availability of technical (see Phil's post above) and non-technical (material simply e-mailed to the "beard," who then posts it from his/her computer) disguise options, the only way we can try to determine if more than one person is posting under a single identity is to conduct a forensic audit, if you will, of the posts.

The historic "Albert Doyle" has been a presence on DPF for some time now -- long enough for "his" literary style (and lack thereof) to be established.

The lengthy "Doyle" posts on this thread exhibit little if any stylistic similarities to long-established "Doyle" posts. They also present us with a very interesting internal inconsistency: lengthy, cogent sentences (boasting a sophisticated vocabulary) that are poorly punctuated -- as if the real writer is attempting to dumb down his or her style in support of the "Albert Doyle" charade.

By the way, you may recall that a few years ago, during my regrettable EF period, I outed the "Colby" entity by demonstrating multiple examples of "his" inconsistent language.

I share Greg's suspicions that Jim Fetzer may be the ghost in "Doyle's" machine. But I'm certain that the ghost exists.

And if I am proven wrong, then I shall shout my apologies from the cyber-rooftops of our global village.

[Charles Drago]

Charles (and Monk) have gone from questioning the validity of Albert Doyle's online persona to directly accusing him of being impersonated by a person or persons unknown. For those of us who don't have the ability to determine such things from examining posts on an internet forum, Charles' emphatic self- confidence about this provides insufficient proof.

Don't you have the capability to track the IP addresses of those who post here? If all of Doyle's posts come from the same one or two addresses, this is a strong indication he is one person, posting probably from home and work. If there are multiple IP addresses, then you've found Thoreau's trout in the milk. Or you could just postulate that a strange cabal is taking turns posting from the same computer.

Why don't you do this and let us know what you discover? Or, you can continue to cryptically refer to "his" mysterious nonexistence, while he conveniently refrains from protesting.

I haven't really noticed the literary inconsistencies Charles points to. I've read quite a lot of Albert's posts now. I don't know why Albert doesn't respond to such an allegation. He must have his reasons.

An avid reader and fan of Piper isn't expected to.

As for "Albert's silence: Perhaps I'm wrong and "he's" giving me just enough rope to hang myself.

If so: The noose is tight, "Albert Doyle." Why not spring the trap?

[Mark Stapleton]

The assassination was obviously not formal Israel national policy Charles, but I've yet to see evidence that any party derived more benefit from JFK's death than Israel.

You just don't get it.

"Benefit" is a wholly subjective term.

Not in Israel's case. After JFK's death, US aid to Israel went from $40 million to $300 million in three years. The pressure on Dimona evaporated and construction went ahead full steam. LBJ covered for Israel when they killed 31 US Servicemen on the Liberty. If it had been any other ally it would have caused a major controversy. If it had been a hostile country it would have caused a war.

LBJ obviously owed Israel a major favor. It seems like a logical conclusion to me, although I know you don't agree Charles. It also seems rather obvious what that favor was.

Dealey Plaza took him from jail to the WH in a few short minutes. It literally saved his life.

[Mark Stapleton]

Charles (and Monk) have gone from questioning the validity of Albert Doyle's online persona to directly accusing him of being impersonated by a person or persons unknown. For those of us who don't have the ability to determine such things from examining posts on an internet forum, Charles' emphatic self- confidence about this provides insufficient proof.

Don't you have the capability to track the IP addresses of those who post here? If all of Doyle's posts come from the same one or two addresses, this is a strong indication he is one person, posting probably from home and work. If there are multiple IP addresses, then you've found Thoreau's trout in the milk. Or you could just postulate that a strange cabal is taking turns posting from the same computer.

Why don't you do this and let us know what you discover? Or, you can continue to cryptically refer to "his" mysterious nonexistence, while he conveniently refrains from protesting.

Don,

Given the availability of technical (see Phil's post above) and non-technical (material simply e-mailed to the "beard," who then posts it from his/her computer) disguise options, the only way we can try to determine if more than one person is posting under a single identity is to conduct a forensic audit, if you will, of the posts.

The historic "Albert Doyle" has been a presence on DPF for some time now -- long enough for "his" literary style (and lack thereof) to be established.

The lengthy "Doyle" posts on this thread exhibit little if any stylistic similarities to long-established "Doyle" posts. They also present us with a very interesting internal inconsistency: lengthy, cogent sentences (boasting a sophisticated vocabulary) that are poorly punctuated -- as if the real writer is attempting to dumb down his or her style in support of the "Albert Doyle" charade.

By the way, you may recall that a few years ago, during my regrettable EF period, I outed the "Colby" entity by demonstrating multiple examples of "his" inconsistent language.

I share Greg's suspicions that Jim Fetzer may be the ghost in "Doyle's" machine. But I'm certain that the ghost exists.

And if I am proven wrong, then I shall shout my apologies from the cyber-rooftops of our global village.

It's a shame you don't apply those sharp detective skills to the assassination Charles.

[Don Jeffries]

Thanks for providing that information, Phil and Charles. I think that if I was accused of being other than who I am, I would at least respond in some way.

Albert, inquiring minds want to know....