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Michael Piper and Final Judgment
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Here are some of our many threads on Gladio:

Operation Gladio

[URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?10539-Gladio-a-documented-false-flag-terror-campaign&highlight=gladio"]Gladio - a documented false flag terror campaign
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Lucien Sarti and Jaques Mesrine

The Belgian Years of Lead: Gladio rises with a vengeance

Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.

So Gladio's role was twofold. Firstly, to operate as a potential stay at home army in the event of Russian expansion into Europe during the Cold War. Secondly, to carry out terror and false flag events in order to destabilise left wing political parties in Europe. So it follows that all the Government investigations into Gladio were carried out by left wing European Governments.

It seems that most of the suspected Gladio campaigns were either in Europe or its former colonies.

How all this relates to JFK's assassination mystifies me.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.
Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Mark Stapleton Wrote:So Gladio's role was twofold. Firstly, to operate as a potential stay at home army in the event of Russian expansion into Europe during the Cold War. Secondly, to carry out terror and false flag events in order to destabilise left wing political parties in Europe. So it follows that all the Government investigations into Gladio were carried out by left wing European Governments.
I see you are so not getting it, Mark.

Mark Stapleton Wrote:How all this relates to JFK's assassination mystifies me.
When I look at this thread I feel the same.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:So Gladio's role was twofold. Firstly, to operate as a potential stay at home army in the event of Russian expansion into Europe during the Cold War. Secondly, to carry out terror and false flag events in order to destabilise left wing political parties in Europe. So it follows that all the Government investigations into Gladio were carried out by left wing European Governments.
I see you are so not getting it, Mark.

Well since I'm so not getting it, why don't you tell me what Gladio's role was, and whether you think they had a role in the assassination.

My cards are on the table. I'm calling.
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.
Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Many others do.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.
Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Many others do.
Albert is not many. Albert is one other person. Though I know Charles will disagree.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.
Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Many others do.
Albert is not many. Albert is one other person. Though I know Charles will disagree.

Magda,

In one sense, I know Mark is right, yet he still fallaciously Appeals to Popularity. While it is true that the several Albert(s) Doyle certainly agree with Mark, it also remains true
that the entity is comprised of approximately 4 persons (no more than 5) by my estimation. And 4 hardly qualifies as "many" in the big scheme of things.
GO_SECURE

monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Looking through these threads, I can't see any realistic link between Gladio and Dealey Plaza, except for the possibility that the shooters may have been recruited in Europe.
Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Many others do.
Albert is not many. Albert is one other person. Though I know Charles will disagree.

Don't be dopey Magda. I wasn't simply referring to this forum.

I've read articles from commentators who openly accuse Israel of playing a role in the assassination. Gordon Duff is just one of a growing number. I'm not a twitter person but a friend who is tells me it's all over the twitterverse as well. Piper's work is not as unpopular as you would like to think.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:So Gladio's role was twofold. Firstly, to operate as a potential stay at home army in the event of Russian expansion into Europe during the Cold War. Secondly, to carry out terror and false flag events in order to destabilise left wing political parties in Europe. So it follows that all the Government investigations into Gladio were carried out by left wing European Governments.
I see you are so not getting it, Mark.

Well since I'm so not getting it, why don't you tell me what Gladio's role was, and whether you think they had a role in the assassination.

My cards are on the table. I'm calling.

Well Magda?

You told me I don't get it so please enlighten me. Preferably in your own words if possible, not slabs of text from some other writer.

It's a straightforward question in response to your criticism of me.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Looking through these threads I can't see any realistic link between Israel and the Jews being responsible for what happened in Dealy Plaza.

Many others do.
Albert is not many. Albert is one other person. Though I know Charles will disagree.

Don't be dopey Magda. I wasn't simply referring to this forum.

I've read articles from commentators who openly accuse Israel of playing a role in the assassination. Gordon Duff is just one of a growing number. I'm not a twitter person but a friend who is tells me it's all over the twitterverse as well. Piper's work is not as unpopular as you would like to think.
Don't be dopey Mark. I too could quote great anonymous hoards of people are on my side too. I'm sure Piper's work is the bees knees in your small miniscule grouplet of Piper groupies. Indeed nothing else is considered by the looks of it. But his work doesn't stand up to any close scrutiny. Or even a general perusal.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Don't be dopey Magda.

Magda is astute. Dopey would be 771 pages accusing Israel in general and Ben-Gurion explicitly of sponsoring the assassination of JFKwithout a scintilla of proof.

I've read articles from commentators who openly accuse Israel of playing a role in the assassination.


You can read; can you relate a scintilla of proof of these accusations?

I'm not a twitter person but a friend who is tells me it's all over the twitterverse as well.

The twitterverse as a Tower of Babel? Or does this one have a hundred pages of endnotes?

Piper's work is not as unpopular as you would like to think.

You are the only one who thinks in terms of "popular."

Others would say you accuse Jews yet offer no proof, indicating your attitude toward Jews.

David has patiently requested proof and has received catcalls and patronization.

Oh, but the twitterverse insists the sower of the "Dopey" sobriquet.

In other news, Herman Kahn was employed by the Rand Corporation. Used systems theory and game theory to supercede MAD, devising counters to pre-emptive first strike scenarios.

Conceivably Rand's 1972 counterterror database was a prescient view of the post-Cold War model twenty years hence.

Gladio provided a range of countermoves to Soviet expansion. Its force, unused for its intended purpose, exercised a strategy of tension.

Is Benghazi a helping hand to the Mau Mau. Certainly 911 was strategic tension, opening the gates to extraordinary Federal executive power, neutralization of constitutional safeguards, access to heroin, an exercise for the dogs of war cooped up for too long.

Kahn was thinking of a world Kennedy wanted to dismantle. Certainly a Rand study deemed it more cost-effective to dismantle Kennedy.

As Rumsfeld oversaw consigning terabytes of Able Danger data to oblivion, no doubt there is nothing this side of the memory hole of the calculations of the threat posed by the 35[SUP]th[/SUP] president to the military-industrial complex, the intelligence sword and shield of the powerful, the Federal Reserve, the free flow of narcotics at market prices.


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