David Josephs Wrote:Or MAYBE, he's just another gentile without a clue .... reaching for anything anti-Zion, anti-Israel onwhich to DEFLECT ATTENTION from the actual culprits.
I'm a Jew Mark and yes, we DO control the world... at least that's what the newsletter says....
6 million surrounded by 100 million and we STILL kick everyone's butt.
We've been here, partying, for almost 5800 years
Get used to it.
And the Palestinians routinely displaced and murdered by Israel.
Do you ever consider them?
A lot of people, including many Jewish people, think Israel has gone way too far. Settlement expansion, the Gaza prison enclave, the separation wall, slaughter of humanitarian workers, Operation Cast Lead, starting a war with Iran.
David Josephs Wrote:Or MAYBE, he's just another gentile without a clue .... reaching for anything anti-Zion, anti-Israel onwhich to DEFLECT ATTENTION from the actual culprits.
I'm a Jew Mark and yes, we DO control the world... at least that's what the newsletter says....
6 million surrounded by 100 million and we STILL kick everyone's butt.
We've been here, partying, for almost 5800 years
Get used to it.
This doesn't seem like much of a party to me...
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monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
Mark Stapleton Wrote:And the Palestinians routinely displaced and murdered by Israel.
Do you ever consider them?
A lot of people, including many Jewish people, think Israel has gone way too far. Settlement expansion, the Gaza prison enclave, the separation wall, slaughter of humanitarian workers, Operation Cast Lead, starting a war with Iran.
Any thoughts? Or are you too busy partying.
We aren't talking about those subjects in this thread because they are not directly relevant to the JFK assassination.
Please stop attempting to further poison the well.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
Quote: Because you sure are acting like some pretty crafty operators here.
On page 58/#580, David Josephs says this:
Quote:How you can give this person ANY intellectual credibility when people like MOSLEY go unresearched, and GLADIO does not play in discussions of PERMINDEX
is, to me, absurd and requires more than the deflecting posts offered.
It doesn't take long before MS, is demanding to know what Gladio has to do with JFK assassination, as if this were the position, and fawning helplessness. 'What am I suppossed to do? Work me on this?'
My reading of this thread is that David Josephs introduced Gladio to the Permindex discussions to show the inadequacy of Mosely's analysis saying in so many words, 'it's so bad that he does not even mention Gladio.' It's obvious to a non-expert reader such as myself that Stapleton is pretending to be a partner to a conversation. That he is not. He is indeed an operator.
He should be put on moderation in lieu of being ignored which isn't going to happen. This shit has been going on for months.
Another champion of free speech announces his arrival.
David Josephs Wrote:Or MAYBE, he's just another gentile without a clue .... reaching for anything anti-Zion, anti-Israel onwhich to DEFLECT ATTENTION from the actual culprits.
I'm a Jew Mark and yes, we DO control the world... at least that's what the newsletter says....
6 million surrounded by 100 million and we STILL kick everyone's butt.
We've been here, partying, for almost 5800 years
Get used to it.
And the Palestinians routinely displaced and murdered by Israel.
Do you ever consider them?
A lot of people, including many Jewish people, think Israel has gone way too far. Settlement expansion, the Gaza prison enclave, the separation wall, slaughter of humanitarian workers, Operation Cast Lead, starting a war with Iran.
Any thoughts? Or are you too busy partying.
Mark... now you're simply showing historical stupidity... or very bad tunnel vision....
Shall we begin a list of "peoples" who have tried to exterminate the JEWS
How about a list of peoples who have tried to exterminate ANY other race or group?
How much of the Middle East has Israel GIVEN BACK?
Tell me what other country in that region who has been as generous...
Do you or do you NOT understand the relationship between Pakistan and Hamas?
Or the notion that wiping the JEWS from the Earth is taught in Arab and other countries?
I wonder how Australia would feel if China decided therre shouldn't BE any more Australians, that THEY need the land more than those already there...
Your argument is WEAK and getting weaker with each utterance...
Should we now start talking about the American Indians? African Blacks? Yugoslavia?
Did I miss you asking me to post a chapter from Piper that contains your evidence?
David Josephs Wrote:[size=12]Even YOU can't run from this one - this is YOUR SOURCE for "ZIONIST KILLED JFK"
Is it IMPOSSIBLE for you to pick a passage that even SUPPORTS the conclusion?
Ain't no more places to hide - It's all here and yet
HERE is NOTHING.
Table of Contents [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]PREFACE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]:[/SIZE] [size=12]The Unspoken Truth: [/SIZE][size=12]Israel's Central Role in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy
Soft cover edition page [ i] [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]Who's Who [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]in the JFK Assassination
Conspiracy and Cover-Up
Page [v], ebook page 54 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER ONE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Tie That Binds: [/SIZE][size=12]What All of the Most Commonly Accepted JFK Assassination Theories Have in
Common
The Never-Mentioned Israeli Connection
Page [1], ebook page 62 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER TWO [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Off With His Head: [/SIZE][size=12]A Mossad Plot to Kill an American President
Page [14], ebook page 75 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER THREE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]A Bad Habit: [/SIZE][size=12]Israel's Use of "False Flags" in Global Terrorism
Pointing the Finger of Guilt Elsewhere
Page [19], ebout page 80 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER FOUR [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]No Love Lost: [/SIZE][size=12]JFK, Meyer Lansky, the Mafia & the Israeli Lobby
Page [26], ebook page 87 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER FIVE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Genesis: [/SIZE][size=12]JFK's Secret War With Israel
Page [40], ebook page 101 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER SIX [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Coming of the Messiah: [/SIZE][size=12]Lyndon Johnson Rushes to Israel's Rescue;
U.S. Middle East Policy Is Reversed
Page [59], ebook page 120 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER SEVEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Israel's Godfather: [/SIZE][size=12]The Man in the Middle
Meyer Lansky, the CIA, the FBI & the Israeli Mossad
Page [72], ebook page 133 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER EIGHT [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Thick as Thieves: [/SIZE][size=12]A Dangerous Liaison
James Jesus Angleton Israel, the CIA and the Mob
Page [95], ebook page 156 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER NINE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]A Little Unpleasantness: [/SIZE][size=12]JFK's War With Israel's Allies at the CIA
Page [110], ebook page 171 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER TEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Little Man's Little Man: [/SIZE][size=12]Meyer Lansky & Carlos Marcello--
Did the Mafia Kill JFK?
Page [124], ebook page 185 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER ELEVEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Cuban Love Song: [/SIZE][size=12]Meyer Lansky, the Mafia, CIA, the Mossad
and the Castro Assassination Plots
Page [137], ebook page 198 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER TWELVE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]An Opiate for the Masses: [/SIZE][size=12]The Lansky-CIA-Southeast Asian Drug Pipeline
and the Mossad Connection
Page [146], ebook page 207 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER THIRTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Israel's California Connection: [/SIZE][size=12]Mickey Cohen and the JFK Assassination
Page [156], ebook page 217 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER FOURTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Errand Boy: [/SIZE][size=12]Jack Ruby Was More "Mossad" Than "Mafia"
Page [167], ebook page 228 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER FIFTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Twain Shall Meet [/SIZE][size=12]The Permindex Mystery:
Israel, the CIA, the Lansky Crime Syndicate
and the Plot to Kill John F. Kennedy
Page [186], ebook page 247 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER SIXTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Double Cross in Dallas: [/SIZE][size=12]What Really Happened in Dealey Plaza?
James Jesus Angleton, E. Howard Hunt and the JFK Assassination
The Truth About the "French Connection"
Page [209], ebook page 270 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER SEVENTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]They Dare Not Speak Out: [/SIZE][size=12]The Media's Silence
Why Israel's Role in the JFK Assassination Could Not Be Exposed
Page [251], ebook page 312 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CHAPTER EIGHTEEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Heir to the Throne [/SIZE][size=12]The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy
Israel, Iran, Lansky & the CIA
Page [286], ebook page 347 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
CONCLUSION [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Operation Haman? [/SIZE][size=12]The Theory That Works
Page [295], ebook page 356 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX ONE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Where Was George? [/SIZE][size=12]George Bush, the CIA and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
Did GHWB Have a Hand in the Murder of JFK?
Page [306], ebook page 367 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX TWO [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Man From the Klan [/SIZE][size=12]Lee Harvey Oswald's "Nazi" Connection.
The Alleged Assassin's Little-Known Ties to Undercover
Intelligence Operatives in the Neo-Nazi Underground
Page [314], ebook page 375 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]PHOTO SECTION [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Leading personalities involved in the JFK assassination
ebook page 384 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX THREE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]"Communist Blood Red" [/SIZE][size=12]Guy Banister & Kent and Phoebe Courtney
The Leaders of the Right Wing's Pro-Israel Clique in New Orleans
Page [323], ebook page 420 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX FOUR [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Agents of Influence [/SIZE][size=12]A Troublesome Topic:
The Jewish Presence on the Warren Commission
"The Best and the Brightest"and Jerry Ford, Too.
Page [333], ebook page 430 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX FIVE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]JFK's Greenbacks [/SIZE][size=12]The Truth About The Federal Reserve Connection.
A Grain of Truth and Much Misinformation.
Page [347], ebook page 444 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX SIX [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Retribution? [/SIZE][size=12]The Strange Deaths of William Colby and John Paisley
Was There a JFK Assassination Connection?
Page [353], ebook page 450 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX SEVEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]"Deep Throat" [/SIZE][size=12]Dallas and Watergate [/SIZE][size=12]Were [/SIZE][size=12]Connected[/SIZE] [size=12]James Jesus Angleton, Israel and the Fall of Richard M. Nixon
Page [364], ebook page 461 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX EIGHT [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Battle of the Books: [/SIZE][size=12]A Commentary on the Major JFK Assassination Works
Page [383], ebook page 480 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX NINE [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Quid Pro Quo? [/SIZE][size=12]The Peking Connection to the JFK Assassination Conspiracy
Israel's Secret Nuclear Alliance With Communist China.
Page [401], ebook page 498 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
APPENDIX TEN [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]"Israel's Dark Side" [/SIZE][size=12]Was Israeli Intelligence Involved in the
Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin?
Page [417], ebook page 514 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]
AFTERWORD [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]:[/SIZE] [size=12]The Continuing Cover-Up [/SIZE][size=12]Page [421], ebook page 518 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]POSTSCRIPT [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Page [445], ebook page 542 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]BIBLIOGRAPHY [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Page [448], ebook page 545 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]REFERENCE NOTES [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Page [458], ebook page 555 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]DEFAULT JUDGMENT [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Questions, Answers & Reflections [/SIZE][size=12]Page [495], ebook page 592 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]FINAL WORD? [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]The Book They Tried to Ban [/SIZE][size=12]Page [588], ebook page 686 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]INDEX [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12][/SIZE][size=12]and Some Very Fascinating Odds and Ends[/SIZE] [size=12]Page [643], ebook page 741 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]A CHALLENGE TO THE READERS [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Page [663], ebook page 761 [/SIZE][size=12][size=12]ERRATUM [/SIZE][/SIZE][size=12]Minor spelling, "typo," and other revisions
in this ebook compared to the soft cover sixth edition
ebook page 768
[size=12]PREFACE The Unspoken Truth: Israel's Central Role in the JFK Assassination Where in the world could anyone come up with the idea that Israel's Mossad had a hand in the assassination of John F.Kennedy? All of the information which, taken together, proves thiscontention has long been in the public domain. This book, Final Judgment,brings all of these facts together for the first time in a fascinating andfrightening scenario thatalthough controversialdoes make sense. Considering all of the theories about the assassination ofJohn F. Kennedy that have been circulating for years, how couldanyone ever suggest that Israel's Mossad was involved ? This was the reaction of more than a few people whenapprised of the thesis presented in the pages of this book. Yet, I believe, thatwhen you read this volume you will reach the same conclusion: that Israel andits spy agency, the Mossad, did indeed play a critical role in theJFK assassination conspiracy and its cover-up. The evidence is there, as youshall see. It was in 1989, while re-reading A. J. Weberman and Michael Canfield's Coup d'Etat in America (first published in 1975)that I first stumbled upon a strange reference that ultimately led to myresearch that is outlined here in the pages of Final Judgment. The reference,simple as it was, appearing on page 41, read as follows: "After the assassination, an informer for the SecretService and the FBI who had infiltrated a Cuban exile group and was in theprocess of selling them machine guns, reported that on November 21,1963 he was told, 'We now have plenty of moneyour new backers are theJewsas soon as they take care of JFK.' This man had furnishedreliable information in the past." (emphasis added) I barely noticed the reference, but it did intrigue me. Whodid this source mean by "the Jews" and why (of all people)would "they" want to "take care of JFK"? I concluded the source meantJewish gangsters such as Meyer Lansky who wanted to regain their Cuban gamblinginterests they lost when Castro came to power. This, I thought, had to bethe answer. Frankly, I laid the speculation aside. It was just one lonedetail among millions of words written about the JFK assassination.Nearly a year went by before I came across the reference againwhile re-readingthe same book. I pondered the quote for a moment, thinking,"This is interesting." However, I once again cast it aside. I had long ago alreadyconcluded that the CIA, in collusion with elements of "theMafia" and the anti-Castro Cuban exiles, was responsible for the president'sassassination. However, an entire year latersometime in 1991I came acrossa variation of the same quotation cited in the book byWeberman and Canfield. This time it appeared in David Scheim's book,Contract on America, which contends "The Mafia Killed JFK" andwhich also [ii] Final Judgment vehemently dismisses any CIA involvement whatsoever. I hadread Scheim's book when it first came out in 1988, but I had notnoticed the reference (or the similarity to the other one) at that time. What intrigued me, however, was that Scheim's rendition ofthe quote deleted the reference to the alleged Jewish backers of theCuban plotters. My immediate thought was: "What's Scheim trying tohide?" At that moment I finally began to see that this unusual (seeminglyminor) detail might, in fact, point toward something much bigger than Ihad realized. THE LANSKY CONNECTION It was at this time that a new biography of organized crimefigure Meyer Lansky was released. Entitled Little Man: Meyer Lanskyand the Gangster Life, the bookprepared in cooperation withLansky's familywas little more than a puff piece for Lansky. Irealized immediately that the book still somehow seemed to be missing quite alot. It was then that I returned to my library and pulled a bookoff the shelf that I hadn't re-read in perhaps fifteen years. It was HankMessick's biography of Lansky. Re-reading this important book I beganto see that Meyer Lansky was not just a Mafia advisor as David Scheim,for example, would have his readers believe. Instead, Lansky was"the chairman of the board" of organized crime. All of the Mafia figuresthat had been repeatedly implicated in the JFK assassination were, in fact, Lansky'sfront menhis subordinates, his underlings. In short, if "theMafia" had a hand in the killing of JFK, then Lansky had to have been one of the keyplayers. Yet, as I quickly began to see in reviewing many of theworks which allege that "The Mafia Killed JFK," Lansky'spreeminent role was being ignored or otherwise under-played. I was aware of Lansky'sclose ties to Israel. After all, Lansky fled to Israel when the heat wason in the United States. But how deeply did the Lansky-Israeli connection go?My research into that question began to turn up some interesting facts. THE ISRAELI CONNECTION At this juncture, however, I had no reason whatsoever tothink that Israel would have had any reason to participate in the JFKassassination conspiracy. However, it was just about the time that I hadbegun to take a second look at the Lansky connectionin 1991that severalnew works were released which provided never-before revealedinformation about the covert relationship between the United States and Israel. These books, cited extensively in Final Judgment, made itall too clear that John F. Kennedy had become embroiled in a bitterbehind-the-scenes battle with Israel. In fact, Kennedy was at war. JFK's secret war with Israel was something that evenlong-time JFK assassination researchers had no reason to know about. Muchof the material had long been classified. It was a secreta deep,dark secret. Preface [iii] Some of JFK's communications with then-Israeli PrimeMinister David Ben-Gurion were classified for years, until just recently.Not even top-level intelligence officials with special security clearance wereinitially allowed access to those explosive documents. In fact, prior to these more recent revelations, very littleabout JFK's relations with Israel and the Arab world had ever actuallybeen published anywhere. As historian David Schoenbaum pointed out quitenotably in his book, The United States and the State of Israel: "Submerged among the high-visibility themes ofEast-West relations, the nuclear arms race and the early dawn of a test ban andnonproliferation, the Berlin and Cuban missile crisis, the perplexities of thenewly decolonized Belgian Congo, buoyant hopes for an Alliance forProgress in Latin America, and the deepening quagmire in Vietnam, theMiddle East is scarcely even visible in the standard biographies thatfollowed Kennedy's assassination. Even by liberal estimates, Ben-Gurion andNasser, Israel and Egypt appear on only seven each of Theodore Sorensen's758, and Arthur M. Schlesinger's 1,031 pages of text." (Emphasisadded.) In short, while JFK assassination researchers were busyprobing a wide variety of areas, they were missing the big picturethesecret picture on the other side of the jigsaw puzzle. So it was that the new revelations about Kennedy'srelationship with Israel (and its potential link to the assassinationconspiracy) made me realize that there was an unexplored area of researchneverbefore consideredthat needed examination. ISRAEL, LANSKY & THE CIA By this time, then, the long and close relationship betweenIsrael and JFK's foes at the CIA was something that was now beingacknowledged. And JFK's own war with the CIA was already common knowledge.At the time of the JFK assassination, however, the depth andbreadth of the CIA's relationship with Israel's Mossad, however, was not socommonly known. The pieces of the puzzle were all there. They simply neededto be put together. With a basic thesis now evolving in my mind, Ibegan re-reading much of the published information about the JFKassassination, his policy toward Israel and the history of organized crime. And in so doing, I repeatedly found myself stumbling uponnew information that continued to verify what was initially inmy mind just a theory, but which I now believe to be the truth. By Decemberof 1992 I realized that I had enough material for a book and I beganto write it. But even as I was already in the process of writing thebook, I was startled by the vast amount of material that I wascontinually uncovering and virtually all of it was in the pages of mainstreamsources freely available to anyone who cared to do the research. I thus began torealize that I had indeed begun to assemble a remarkable wealth of materialthat brought my initial thesis full circle. [iv] Final Judgment THE PERMINDEX CONNECTION It is the Permindex connection which is the tie thatbindsthe final proof that the Mossad was at the center of the assassinationconspiracy. In Permindex we find all of the critical elements tying theMossad, the CIA and the Lansky Crime Syndicate together in close-knitintrigue linked directly to the murder of President Kennedy. Although researchers have devoted much time and energy topursuing a wide variety of questions relating to the JFK assassination(focusing on many matters that will never be resolved) most have steered clearof Permindex. Those who have referenced it portray Permindex as some sortof remnant of the Third Reich but nothing could be further from thetruth. In fact, understanding the forces behind Permindex is thekey to resolving the biggest mystery of this century: the questionof not only who killed John F. Kennedybut why. INSIDERS AGREE . . . Just before I began the book I mentioned my theory to arather well-known former United States congressman. He surprised me when hesaid, "I think you are on to something. I've believed for years that the Mossadwas involved in the Kennedy assassination, but I never really took the timeto look into it. I'm glad you're doing it, though. It will be an importantbook. It's a book I would have liked to have written myself." Then, just after I finished the first draft, I sent a copyof the manuscript to another former member of Congress, Paul Findley, thinkingthat he might have some interest in the subject. His response was perhaps a bitastonishing. The ex-Congressman wrote me a surprising letter in which hesaid, "I will mention that over the past four years I have had lengthycorrespondence with a retired diplomat from a western European nation whosefamily (including himself) has had disastrous experiences with Israel and theMossad. He has been prodding me all that time to do what you havedone."that is, write a book exploring Israel's secret role in the JFK assassinationconspiracy. Congressman Findley then passed the manuscript on to theFrenchman (whose remarkable story you will learn about in these pages)who in turn provided me additional fascinating leads and insideinformation that helped make the thesis presented in Final Judgment complete. ONE COMPLETE PICTURE Israel's Mossad was indeed a primary force behind the JFK assassination conspiracy. The Israeli connection pulls allof the pieces of the puzzle together into one complete picture. The role of theMossad in the JFK assassination is indeed the "missing link" inthe conspiracy. For the sake of history, it is a story that needs to be told. MICHAEL COLLINS PIPER
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Yes Greg, off topic. We're still waiting for Mark and Albert to do this one which has been studiously avoided.......
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:And the Palestinians routinely displaced and murdered by Israel.
Do you ever consider them?
A lot of people, including many Jewish people, think Israel has gone way too far. Settlement expansion, the Gaza prison enclave, the separation wall, slaughter of humanitarian workers, Operation Cast Lead, starting a war with Iran.
Any thoughts? Or are you too busy partying.
We aren't talking about those subjects in this thread because they are not directly relevant to the JFK assassination.
Please stop attempting to further poison the well.
I'm not trying to poison any well. I'm simply responding to David's highly provocative posting.
But you're right about drifting off the topic. Time to get back on track.
David Josephs Wrote:Or MAYBE, he's just another gentile without a clue .... reaching for anything anti-Zion, anti-Israel onwhich to DEFLECT ATTENTION from the actual culprits.
I'm a Jew Mark and yes, we DO control the world... at least that's what the newsletter says....
6 million surrounded by 100 million and we STILL kick everyone's butt.
We've been here, partying, for almost 5800 years
Get used to it.
And the Palestinians routinely displaced and murdered by Israel.
Do you ever consider them?
A lot of people, including many Jewish people, think Israel has gone way too far. Settlement expansion, the Gaza prison enclave, the separation wall, slaughter of humanitarian workers, Operation Cast Lead, starting a war with Iran.
Any thoughts? Or are you too busy partying.
Mark... now you're simply showing historical stupidity... or very bad tunnel vision....
Shall we begin a list of "peoples" who have tried to exterminate the JEWS
How about a list of peoples who have tried to exterminate ANY other race or group?
How much of the Middle East has Israel GIVEN BACK?
Tell me what other country in that region who has been as generous...
Do you or do you NOT understand the relationship between Pakistan and Hamas?
Or the notion that wiping the JEWS from the Earth is taught in Arab and other countries?
I wonder how Australia would feel if China decided therre shouldn't BE any more Australians, that THEY need the land more than those already there...
Your argument is WEAK and getting weaker with each utterance...
Should we now start talking about the American Indians? African Blacks? Yugoslavia?
Did I miss you asking me to post a chapter from Piper that contains your evidence?
Greg et al.
Do you want me to respond to this or should it go on another thread? It's drifting away from the assassination.
Quote: Because you sure are acting like some pretty crafty operators here.
On page 58/#580, David Josephs says this:
Quote:How you can give this person ANY intellectual credibility when people like MOSLEY go unresearched, and GLADIO does not play in discussions of PERMINDEX
is, to me, absurd and requires more than the deflecting posts offered.
It doesn't take long before MS, is demanding to know what Gladio has to do with JFK assassination, as if this were the position, and fawning helplessness. 'What am I suppossed to do? Work me on this?'
My reading of this thread is that David Josephs introduced Gladio to the Permindex discussions to show the inadequacy of Mosely's analysis saying in so many words, 'it's so bad that he does not even mention Gladio.' It's obvious to a non-expert reader such as myself that Stapleton is pretending to be a partner to a conversation. That he is not. He is indeed an operator.
He should be put on moderation in lieu of being ignored which isn't going to happen. This shit has been going on for months.
Another champion of free speech announces his arrival.
