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Michael Piper and Final Judgment
Duck! Quick look over there Mark!

Nice try.

Still waiting.....
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Magda Hassan Wrote:Duck! Quick look over there Mark!

Nice try.

Still waiting.....

What are you talking about?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Duck! Quick look over there Mark!

Nice try.

Still waiting.....

What are you talking about?

I repeat "nice try". You know what she is talking about: EVIDENCE that the Joos killed JFK. You pretend not to understand because you lack evidence.

Just what do you do when you are not busy hating an entire race? I have never seen anyone push this bs this far. It's obsession of the worst kind.

Thanks Phil D. for that great response.

Dawn
Jack Rubinstein was the Mastermind behind the WHOLE thing....set up the patsy, even handled both assassinations nearly single-handed, debilitating the SS crew the night before, eliminating witnesses and evidence and covering up from then to now....even gave himself an injection of cancer in prison by requesting one from Jolly West...what a guy that Jack was....what a guy....Wink
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Jack Rubinstein was the Mastermind behind the WHOLE thing....set up the patsy, even handled both assassinations nearly single-handed, debilitating the SS crew the night before, eliminating witnesses and evidence and covering up from then to now....even gave himself an injection of cancer in prison by requesting one from Jolly West...what a guy that Jack was....what a guy....Wink

What a JEW!

Not since one of the Icebergs sank the Titanic had a Jewish conspiracy been as successful.

And by the way: If the Holocaust actually happened, then how do you explain all those Steins in WW II German beer halls?

Another thing: They call Adolf Hitler the "Great Dictator," but Anne Frank's diary is not in her handwriting. You know why?

She DICTATED it! For her Amsterdam book club!!!

HAH!

Take that, bubby!
STOP THE MADNESS......

Geezus,Mark is just playing you people.How many circles do you all want to go around and around.

:monkeypiss:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
Good on you Keith. If you mods can boot Fetzer off then surely Stapleton can follow. He brings nothing of value to this or any debate.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
Good on you Keith. If you mods can boot Fetzer off then surely Stapleton can follow. He brings nothing of value to this or any debate.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Upon this bog Piper & Company erect their indictment of Israel.

Anonymous hearsay.

Not one hundred pages of endnotes.

A guy heard a guy selling to another guy the third guy's allegation regarding a fourth guy or group of guys--which Piper & Company Expert Appraisers of All Things Jewish (as the term in the allegation is Jews, not Zionists) pronounce the Final Judgment.

Which it is: It sets Piper & Company in the category of psychosis, projecting their bigotry on the auras and penumbras of anonymous informants devoid of the slightest credibility.

The contribution to the quest for justice in the assassination and understanding its deeper context in the business model is negative: it is provocation, disinformation, Hollow Men headpiece full of straw and ergot.



That's good poetry Phil but it's nowhere close to the facts. If we cracked open Piper (which I'm not going to do because I don't have the time) you would see Piper present a very well-detailed body of evidence to back his assertions (add faulty sponsorship claim disclaimer here). It is much more complex and valid than your obviously politically-motivated dismissal. So much so that I would say you were the one committing the errors of bias much more than Piper. As long as people are willing to deal with this at the level of pissing contest it only shows what they are trying to avoid, in my opinion. There's a much better conversation about Piper that is deliberately being avoided here. I find that wholly dishonest.

For people who argue honestly in the real world David entered false information he got backwards and ended up abandoning his arguments. The rest of his material is basically identical to what Lone Nutters do to the conspiracy evidence. There's a basic smell test here that hasn't been passed. That is, would Mosley or Echevarria be likely to have made-up this claim out of nowhere or somehow gotten it wrong? These protests appear as evasive and assuming the long-odds. That's sort of what McAdams and Lone Nutters do. All you have to do to judge these protests is see how they never discuss the Swiss banks or the Lansky/zionist connections to them. People honestly looking in to this would see that network is real and confirmed and has some undeniable conclusions associated with it. It's those conclusions that give Piper credibility and also deny credibility to those who ignore them so freely and for such obvious purposes themselves.

I find it very unlikely and very unbelievable that either Mosley or Echevarria somehow reported their experiences inaccurately. Since some are trying too hard to make that the case I think that says enough. There's a dedicated incuriosity that is more than plain and I'm not sure that Piper is the one guilty of the extreme bias here. In my opinion the flak being thrown up here hasn't overcome the objective verifiability of much of the information Piper presents. The best the opposition can do is heckle and question otherwise obvious things. The suggestion that somehow Echevarria got the "new jew backers" wrong is something that doesn't survive the common sense smell test. I'd like to see the explanation of the people who doubt that for why Echevarria would say such a thing or Mosley would report it inaccurately? This is obvious excuse-making. Any honest deep political investigator would see Piper makes a much greater case using all the evidence that the protestors universally ignore in these threads and therefore dismiss their own credibility.


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