Alleged Sikh temple shooter former member of Skinhead band
By Mark Potok, Senior Fellow Southern Poverty Law Center
UPDATE (12:23 CST):
Wade Michael Page was a member of two racist skinhead bands End Apathy and Definite Hate, a band whose album "Violent Victory" featured a gruesome drawing of a disembodied white arm punching a black man in the face. In the drawing, the fist is tattooed with the letters "HFFH," the acronym for the phrase "Hammerskins Forever, Forever Hammerskins."
The Hammerskins is a nationwide skinhead organization with regional factions and chapters that once dominated the racist skinhead movement in the United States.
Both of Page's bands played with a revolving lineup of musicians, and their music was at one time featured on the Hammerskin Nation record label. In 2010, Page and his band mates including Brent Rackley, a member of a Confederate Hammerskins chapter in North Carolina played at a racist music festival called Independent Artist Uprise in Baltimore. Other bands featured at the show were Blue Eyed Devils and Max Resist, both influential mainstays on the hate music scene.
The man who allegedly murdered six people at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee yesterday, identified in media reports as Wade Michael Page, was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.
In 2010, Page, then the leader of the band End Apathy, gave an interview to the white supremacist website Label 56. He said that when he started the band in 2005, its name reflected his wish to "figure out how to end people's apathetic ways" and start "moving forward." "I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back," Page said. Later, he added, "The inspiration was based on frustration that we have the potential to accomplish so much more as individuals and a society in whole." He did not discuss violence in the interview.
Michael Page
Page told the website that he had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle. He attended white power concerts in Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Colorado. At various times, he said, he also played in the hate rock bands Youngland (2001-2003), Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force and Blue Eyed Devils. End Apathy, he said, included "Brent" on bass and "Ozzie" on drums; the men were former members of Definite Hate and another band, 13 Knots.
In 2000, the Southern Poverty Law Center has found that Page also attempted to purchase goods from the neo-Nazi National Alliance, then America's most important hate group.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Peter, which post do you think is unrelated? (I thought you had declared openly that you wouldn't ever bother to read my posts.)
In a simple response, Peter, everything is related. All information available to the review and vetting of source, cause and effect is not and cannot (in a world actively filled with many sources of information, misinformation and disinformation) be neatly categorized into a single thread. It's an active cosmos. Perhaps we ought to categorize all posts into two categories: wave, or particle. Then we can invite Prigogine, Jung, Pauli and others to join the forum.
It is interesting that you use the phrase "getting on your nerves" in the broader context of a thread, two events, and the introduction of large piles of implication about the weaponization of neuroscience. Indeed, the act of getting on one's nerves has been deeply energized by lots of interest, funding, and organization since the creation of the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations, since 1994 headquartered on Tabernacle Street in London (inside "City" boundaries). Given its long history of research into the effects of traumatization on the human nervous system, psyche, etc...., given the information recently circulated about the purposeful creation of chaos..., given the role of the British psychological warfare, the CIA (and others?) in the applied "wartime experience of psychological collapse, to create theories about how such conditions of breakdown could be induced, absent the terror of war. The result was a theory of mass brainwashing, involving group experience, that could be used to alter the values of individuals, and through that, induce, over time, changes in the axiomatic assumptions that govern society."
"Mass media were capable of reaching large numbers of people with programmed or controlled messages, which is key to the creation of ``controlled environments'' for brainwashing purposes. As Tavistock's researches showed, it was important that the victims of mass brainwashing not be aware that their environment was being controlled; there should thus be a vast number of sources for information, whose messages could be varied slightly, so as to mask the sense of external control. Where possible, the messages should be offered and reinforced through ``entertainments,'' which could be consumed, without apparent coercion, and with the victim perceiving himself as making a choice between various options and outlets."
I'll assume that your use of the phrase "getting on my nerves" was a personal colloquial expression that indicates a certain amount of personal frustration that stems perhaps from your inability to get your point across, or control the conversation.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
So, the Fort Bliss psyops graduate gravitates towards the white supremacist and "hate rock" scene.
Is this American History X?
Or Carol Howe all over again?
"Hammerskins Forever, Forever Hammerskins."
Or:
"Agent Provocateurs, Elohim City Redux."
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
by Scott Creighton UPDATE: Former Special Forces soldier David Kellerman admits that he was tasked by the FBI to infiltrate the National Alliance in 2000… Page left his career in the military in late '98 and then set out to get involved in the hate band scene… in the same year, 2000. Were Kellerman and Page working on the same operation?
Well that didn't take long…
Page's neighbor, 53-year-old retiree John Hoyt, told AFP that the suspect had a tattoo referring to the September 11, 2001 attacks by Islamist militants on US sites and "something about lost souls."
But he said he had been surprised to learn of the shootings, as Page had seemed a "pretty normal guy", despite having strong opinions about the United States' military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"I was surprised. He was a real laid back kind of guy. The only negative things he said was about the war and his girlfriend and President Bush Junior, because he started the war," Hoyt said. AFP
So, let me get this straight, he was a psyop specialist who was opposed to the occupations and the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan… who blamed Bush for lying us into war… but he hated Muslims anyway… so he attacked some Sikhs?
Is that the story?
Got it.
Meanwhile… someone burned down a Mosque in Missouri
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
"Suppose you're the senior EMT immediately on-scene at a shopping mall; a berserk gunman with automatic weapons is hiding somewhere in the building. How do you get to the first several victims?"
That's the third and fourth sentences in an article in a JEMS publication called Rescue (March-April 1990, pp. 46-52).
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
Does the US military, or corrupt forces within it, stage false-flag massacres of civilians inside the US and other "friendly" countries as a kind of "psychological operation"?
Of course it does.
Remember Operation Northwoods? Every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a document proposing that the US military massacre civilians in American cities in order to achieve a political objective: Demonize Cuba and grease the skids for war.
Remember Operation Gladio? The Pentagon, through NATO, organized bombings and shootings in the streets of Europe. When one of the terrorists got caught, he explained at his trial: "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security." He later explained the "strategy of tension" to the BBC: "To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies."
Is somebody trying to "promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies" in the US today by staging massacres like the recent shootings in Wisconsin and Colorado? Reports of multiple shooters, and other witness statements that don't fit the official "lone nut" story, suggest that this may be the case.
We recently learned that the notorious "DC Sniper" the US Army Special Forces whiz who changed his name to "Muhammad" just in time to go on a shooting spree was a government-sponsored false-flag operation.
When someone starts killing "civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game," it causes public opinion to swing towards acceptance of hard-line government authority. It makes people run to the state for protection. It stops the people from questioning their leaders, and makes them more willing to do insane things like march off to war.
The neocon agenda aims to turn the US into an authoritarian state at perpetual war with the enemies of Israel. Today, the Zionist plan to smash the Middle East into pieces is running up against the intransigence of Russia, China, and Iran. World War III looms.
Are we being reduced to mental slavery to prevent us from protesting as our leaders get ready to kill most of us in a big nuclear exchange?
That is a big question to ponder on Hiroshima Day.
07-08-2012, 05:32 AM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2012, 06:40 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Quote:Posted on August 6, 2012 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
UPDATE: Former Special Forces soldier David Kellerman admits that he was tasked by the FBI to infiltrate the National Alliance in 2000… Page left his career in the military in late '98 and then set out to get involved in the hate band scene… in the same year, 2000. Were Kellerman and Page working on the same operation?
Well that didn't take long…
Page's neighbor, 53-year-old retiree John Hoyt, told AFP that the suspect had a tattoo referring to the September 11, 2001 attacks by Islamist militants on US sites and "something about lost souls."
But he said he had been surprised to learn of the shootings, as Page had seemed a "pretty normal guy", despite having strong opinions about the United States' military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"I was surprised. He was a real laid back kind of guy. The only negative things he said was about the war and his girlfriend and President Bush Junior, because he started the war," Hoyt said. AFP So, let me get this straight, he was a psyop specialist who was opposed to the occupations and the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan… who blamed Bush for lying us into war… but he hated Muslims anyway… so he attacked some Sikhs?
Is that the story?
Got it.
:lol:
Wow! This is a strange one to untangle, for sure......got to give this one a 'think' from several angles. Likely we are dealing with a few different things here. Naming a few [perhaps not complete]: His training in PSYOPS and perhaps his mission after 'discharge'; they may have messed around with his mind when he was in PSYOPS, using him as a guinea pig; he may have had inherent racist opinions - or that might have been part of his legend; He may have disliked W and his wars, or that may have been part of his strange and mixed-message legend; the MSM and ongoing PSYOPS may be feeding false information, or partially false/misleading information about him; and if he was a 'laid back kind of guy', he certainly broke 'character' that day..... and there could be more. This one is [or was designed to be] very confusing - with seemingly contradictory facets of his 'personality' clashing. He could have been a nut case from the get-go; or he could have been made into one in PSYOPS by design, or as 'blowback' from his time in PSYOPS work. Go figure.:wirlitzer: Perhaps a PSYOP within a PSYOP within.......
One thing seems sure....the number of mass shootings keeps rising and the timing between them seems to be getting much less....is there a plan here? Perhaps a topic for a conference on this kinds of events - along with the internet discussions. America is becoming a shooting gallery, with the general populace the duckies to be shot at. The Police were bad enough; now we have 'lone nut' shooters, many with backgrounds in PSYOPS, psychiatry, psychology or study in the neurological sciences.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"... Was Wade Michael Page part of a long term psyop looking to infiltrate the White Supremacy counter couture of America? Was he reactivated as part of the newly established destabilization campaign here at home? Did his team turn the psyop on him or did he accidentally get caught off guard by local police? Was he just a young man fucked up in the head after years of psyops?How is it that this guy couldn't tell Muslims from Sikhs? He was in the military for Christ's sake. Don't they know the difference better than your average skin-head?
Posted onAugust 7, 2012|Leave a comment On Sunday, worshippers at the Wisconsin Sikh temple (Gurduwara), became the latest victims of the US culture of gun, ethnic hatred and false-flag operations. The shooter died in a police encounter' outside the temple after killing six worshippers and wounding several others. On Monday, the Pentagon identified the shooter as former US Army "psychological operations specialist", Wade Michael Page 40, who had served US Army between April, 1992 and October, 1998, ending his career at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. According to the Pentagon records Page was a qualified parachutist who received a commendation medal, five achievement medals, two good conduct medals, the National Defense Service Medal and a Humanitarian Service Medal. Heidi L. Beirich, the Zionist Jew director of the intelligence project at theSouthern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) in Montgomery, has claimed that Page had been a member of the racist skinhead band End Apathy, based in Fayetteville, North Carolina, in 2010. SPLC, is a Zionist-controlled civil rights organization, created in 1971 and is headed by Zionist Jew J. Richard Cohen. Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards has claimed the shooting to be an act of domestic terrorism. But since the shooter is not a Muslim, local police, FBI and media is not concerned whether Wade Michael Page is a Jewish or Christian he's just a White male'. On the FBI's official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on US soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. It shows that American Jews (7%) are more involved in domestic terrorism than Muslims (6%). See below. The Washington-based Sikh Coalition has reported more than 700 hate incidents against Sikhs in the US since 9-11 - as their long beards and turbans often cause them to be mistaken for Muslims. The first person killed in retaliation for the 9-11 was Balbir Singh Sohdi, a turbaned Sikh who was mistaken for a Muslim by a Zionist thug Frank Rouqe, on September 15, 2001. Barack Obama was notified of the Wisconsin shooting shortly before 1 pm by his Jewish Homeland Security Advisor, John Brennan. "As we mourn this loss which took place at a house of worship, we are reminded how much our country has been enriched by Sikhs, who are a part of our broader American family," said Barack Obama. However, during his November 2010 visit to India Obama refused to visit Sikh religion's most sacred place, the Golden Temple in Amritsar (Indian Punjab) fearing a Sikh ceremonial turban might remind the Jewish lobby of his Muslim father. In January 2012, The Tonight Show host Jay Leno upset the 500,000-strong US Sikh community by calling Golden Temple, "a summer home for millionaire GOP presidential candidate Israel-Firster Mitt Romney". In February 2010 the RAW-Mossad funded Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)operatives killed two of its Sikh hostages whose bodies were found in Wazristan area on February 21. The Indian media and Hindu communal leaders along with Zionist-controlled western mass media was quick to use this incident to demonize Pakistani Muslims for their hatred towards non-Muslims. TTP had kidnapped four sikhs, Jaspal Singh, Mahal Singh, Gurjit Singh and Gurvinder Singh. Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee Sham Singh, however, in a conference confirmed that only Jaspal Singh had been killed. He also condemned India's false propaganda against Pakistan by painting a wrong picture of Pakistan using this incident while saying: "Pakistan is not less than Heaven for Sikhs. We are safe here". Dr. Kevin Barrett, columnist, author, blogger and radio talk show host believes the temple shooting was a US Army psy-opsto scare the hell out of Americans and prepare them for the next disastrous military adventure. "The neocon agenda aims to turn the US into an authoritarian state at perpetual war with the enemies of Israel. Today, the Zionist plan to smash the Middle East into pieces is running up against the intransigence of Russia, China, and Iran. World War III looms," says Dr. Barrett. Sikh religion was founded by Guru Nanak. He was born into a high-caste Hindu family on April 15, 1469. As a young boy, Nanak was introduced to Islam through his Muslim friends. Later he went to Baghdad to study Islam. In 1507 he proclaimed a new religion based on Islamic monotheism with Hindu traditions and culture. However, the modern Sikhism is not based on his teachings but the teachings of Guru Arjan, who compiled Sikhism holy book Guru Granth in 1601. The construction on the Darbar Sahib (or Harmandir; now also known as the Golden Temple) in Amritsar on the land donated by Mughal King Aurengzaib Almgir, was also completed in the same year. In 1857, Sikhs helped British colonialists to suppress Muslim-Hindu military resistance against foreign rulers. In 1947 Sikhs helped Hindu extremist groups to massacre nearly one million Muslim men, women and children for demanding a separate Muslim state of Pakistan.
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