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Seamus Coogan Wrote:Lol I am very glad I annoyed you this time LOL. Excellent threads and posts here and brilliant it's up on Youtube. I saw it some years ago but had a bugger finding it again.
Maybe the interview with him is on Youtube, but the entire 200+ page book on Gadio is not there...and it used to be a few places on the internet for download, but now I can't find it and can't yet upload it to Forum from my computer.
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Seamus Coogan Wrote:Peter have you seen the BBC documentary on it that they banned? Probably the BBC's finest hour.....that and the odd Curtis doco. I wonder what JK makes of it all, in his opinion was it one of the better things the BBC did? Was anybody fired over it? I didn't know Gasner had a book on it damn it, I should have known that.
Well Seamus, I've written about it many times on DPF.
I was actually working as a Special Assistant to the Number Two in BBC Television at the time it was broadcast.
The series had slipped under the London radar because it was an independent production for BBC Wales.
"The Man in the Mac" didn't know the series was even in production until he saw it on BBC2 and vomited his G&T over his cherubic boy love.
There are challenges though.
Here are a couple:
Oswald Le Winter - fancy deciphering the pseudonym and the message?
What is the link between Allan Francovich and Gunter Russbacher?
And who is the link between Allan Francovich and Gunter Russbacher?
Insightful answers only, on a Daniele Ganser postcard.....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Attached is Nato's Secret Armies
Didn't work for me either. The limit for .pdf's is much larger than 2.9 megs.
It can be found intermittently online.
We had an argument about this at DPF, and we couldn't establish for sure that Daniele Ganser had given permission for it to be made available as a pdf. This is why it's no longer available via wikispooks either.
Of course, some may have grabbed it during its brief appearances......
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Has anyone wondered if the private militia groups, hate groups, hate bands, and other similar anti-democratic groups within the United States could be acting like the Gladio in other countries? Are there any international connections to these domestic groups, or to US - CIA and NATO?
Adele
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Adele Edisen Wrote:Has anyone wondered if the private militia groups, hate groups, hate bands, and other similar anti-democratic groups within the United States could be acting like the Gladio in other countries? Are there any international connections to these domestic groups, or to US - CIA and NATO?
Adele
I think it is safe to assume that some of them are.....but how'z about 9-11 as a typical, if gigantic, 'Gladio-like' event......!? But the drum-beat seems to be kept up with all the long nut shooters and underwear bombers et al.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Adele Edisen Wrote:Has anyone wondered if the private militia groups, hate groups, hate bands, and other similar anti-democratic groups within the United States could be acting like the Gladio in other countries? Are there any international connections to these domestic groups, or to US - CIA and NATO?
Adele
Adele - Gladio is as much archetypal MO as specific European history.
Its monstrous shadow can be seen in both Bologna and Oklahoma City.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Attached is Nato's Secret Armies
Didn't work for me either. The limit for .pdf's is much larger than 2.9 megs.
It can be found intermittently online.
We had an argument about this at DPF, and we couldn't establish for sure that Daniele Ganser had given permission for it to be made available as a pdf. This is why it's no longer available via wikispooks either.
Of course, some may have grabbed it during its brief appearances...... Jan, am I getting senile or wasn't Daniele briefly posting here long ago? If so, or if anyone has his email address [I might, have to look], maybe you could email and ask him about if it is or is not OK. Just an idea. If nothing else, he has some great papers to put online, I'm sure he wouldn't mind [they summarize the book].
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Thanks Jan and Pete will have a look into the murky depths again very soon. Haven't had the time to really sink my teeth into Gladio as much I would have liked.
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Adele Edisen Wrote:Has anyone wondered if the private militia groups, hate groups, hate bands, and other similar anti-democratic groups within the United States could be acting like the Gladio in other countries? Are there any international connections to these domestic groups, or to US - CIA and NATO?
Adele
Adele - Gladio is as much archetypal MO as specific European history.
Its monstrous shadow can be seen in both Bologna and Oklahoma City.
Jan,
Oklahoma City was on my mind when I posed my questions!
Adele
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