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Nix Film
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Clint Hill's actions and his memoirs (or memories) don't quite add up either. He claims he started to move after a shot noise and Kennedy grabbed his throat (which is true but not very precise). He also claims both that there were two shots after that and also, somewhat contradictorily (as a fallback position?), that he didn't hear the second shot while he was running. He did hear the head shot (which he calls the third shot) while running. If there were two shots after Hill started to move, and before he got to the limo, then there must be multiple shooters. There just wouldn't be enough time for one shooter to fire a bolt action rifle twice in the short span of time between Hill's reaction and the headshot.

But the Nix film, and the Altgens photo (Z-255), doesn't quite agree with him. In Altgens, Kennedy is reacting, so is Jackie, and Connally. Hill is still riding, looking front and right. The [pick one:] (magic bullet) (the shot which wounded Connally) has been fired well before that frame. Remember that by the time Altgens is taken there has been heard by SS guys at least a "firecracker" noise, and a clear rifle report. Hill is, by the Nix film, obviously already on the move prior to the head shot.

Using Zapruder as a time reference, and assuming Hill reacts 1/18 of a second after the Altgens photo (which is giving Hill the benefit of the doubt) you get the following: z-313 (head shot) - z-256 (Altgens + 1/18 sec) = 3.6 seconds, not enough time for 1 shooter to fire a bolt action rifle twice. If any time at all passed between Altgens and Hill's reaction, it is even less likely that 2 shots could have been fired with a single bolt action rifle.

Hill also believes he saw the massive head wound to the rear of JFK's head. He's no doctor, but its hard to argue that he's just flat wrong about that (or he might be lying in support of conspiracy theorists).

What really happens IMHO is that Hill reacts more slowly than he remembers, well after the [pick one:] (magic bullet) (the shot which wounded Connally) and that there is only one shot afterwards, (which he hears) the fatal one.

There is only one other possibility consistent with Hill's memory: there were two headshots, one of which Hill heard and one which he didn't hear. For two headshots to arrive within 1/18 of a second of each other they must have been fired at almost the same exact time (from different locations, depending on which second shooter position you favor), but from Hill's position, he should have heard the sound of the report arriving at his position much faster from the closer grassy knoll than from the more distant TSBD (and therefore heard 2 reports).

It also seems likely that he would have heard the whipcrack of a supersonic bullet fired over his right shoulder from behind sooner than a "report" sound from the rear. Did the fact that he didn't hear that sound first mean that the shots came from somewhere else?
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Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-06-2014, 05:25 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 21-06-2014, 06:07 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-06-2014, 06:13 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 21-06-2014, 06:34 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-06-2014, 06:37 PM
Nix Film - by Lauren Johnson - 21-06-2014, 07:11 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-06-2014, 09:29 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 21-06-2014, 11:00 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-06-2014, 11:47 PM
Nix Film - by Peter Lemkin - 22-06-2014, 05:17 AM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014, 02:12 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014, 02:45 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 22-06-2014, 03:16 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014, 03:33 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014, 05:06 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 22-06-2014, 05:25 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 22-06-2014, 06:31 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 22-06-2014, 11:37 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 23-06-2014, 04:41 AM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 08:52 AM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 23-06-2014, 02:39 PM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 23-06-2014, 02:41 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 05:17 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 05:19 PM
Nix Film - by Lauren Johnson - 23-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 06:01 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 23-06-2014, 09:32 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 09:43 PM
Nix Film - by Lauren Johnson - 23-06-2014, 10:40 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 23-06-2014, 10:58 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 23-06-2014, 11:35 PM
Nix Film - by Lauren Johnson - 24-06-2014, 12:04 AM
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Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 24-06-2014, 01:32 AM
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Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 24-06-2014, 01:36 PM
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Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 24-06-2014, 10:35 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 24-06-2014, 11:56 PM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 25-06-2014, 12:58 AM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 25-06-2014, 01:03 AM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 25-06-2014, 02:13 AM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 25-06-2014, 03:09 AM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 25-06-2014, 03:11 AM
Nix Film - by Chris Davidson - 25-06-2014, 05:39 AM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 25-06-2014, 01:55 PM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 25-06-2014, 02:31 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 25-06-2014, 04:42 PM
Nix Film - by Tracy Riddle - 26-06-2014, 12:56 AM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 27-06-2014, 05:56 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 27-06-2014, 06:46 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 27-06-2014, 11:59 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 28-06-2014, 03:59 AM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 28-06-2014, 04:18 AM
Nix Film - by Lauren Johnson - 28-06-2014, 04:37 AM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 28-06-2014, 03:04 PM
Nix Film - by Tom Bowden - 28-06-2014, 04:17 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 28-06-2014, 04:59 PM
Nix Film - by Albert Doyle - 28-06-2014, 05:03 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 28-06-2014, 05:35 PM
Nix Film - by Drew Phipps - 28-06-2014, 05:35 PM
Nix Film - by Bob Prudhomme - 28-06-2014, 05:41 PM
Nix Film - by Tom Bowden - 28-06-2014, 06:24 PM

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