19-02-2015, 06:21 AM
(This post was last modified: 19-02-2015, 06:38 AM by Bob Prudhomme.)
David Josephs Wrote:Cut to the chase Bob...
What's the point of this discrepency -
Witnesses are often wrong and we have little real corroboration. Here is the path they took and what Shelley said. Let's assume their timing is off.
Let's also assume that what they said on Nov 22 has more weight than months later...
Shelley says they ran into Gloria AFTER they ran down the street and then went back to the TSBD...
Lovelady tells a completely different story than his testimony - no walk, no Gloria, no railroad track... Just helping policeman in the TSBD...
Seems these statements corroborate each other...
Now what are we supposed to believe?
DJ
David
Don't you get it? Their original affidavits would put them inside the building too quickly. I really hope you're not trying to say the world of difference between their affidavits and their testimony months later is just a bad case of "misremembering". Isn't it funny the two of them would "misremember" the same story for the Warren Commission?
And, according to Shelley's affidavit, they didn't run "down" the street to Gloria Calvary, they ran ACROSS the street to the CORNER and Gloria Calvary came running up to them with the news. BIG difference, Dave, and another lie. AND, even if they had run down the street, they are seen, in the film, walking down the Elm St. extension, while Gloria Calvary was on Elm St. In other words, they were on two different streets, with the pergola between them. They never would have seen Gloria Calvary, even if she had been walking up to the TSBD.
And, once again, how could Gloria Calvary be across the street, at the street corner, or anywhere near the TSBD steps, when photos clearly show her standing down by the pergola, long after the assassination? She clearly did not have time to run back up to the island, as Shelley and Lovelady are filmed walking down the Elm St. extension, away from the island, as Baker is running to the TSBD, and doing his run in 15 seconds after the third shot.
You want proof of a conspiracy? Look no further than Shelley and Lovelady.
P.S.
To anyone reading this, the Elm St. extension, which Shelley and Lovelady walked down at some point, is where the red line is in Dave's photo. Way over to the right, and under the floor plan Dave posted, is where Gloria Calvary was standing on the Elm St. sidewalk. If they followed the course Dave laid out in red from the TSBD entrance, they would, in less than 5 seconds following the last shot, be completely removed from the Elm St. sidewalk by trees and bushes, and would have no more chance of running into Gloria Calvary returning to the TSBD front entrance than they would of meeting Frosty the Snowman.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964