Your image of Charlie Brown at the blackboard is good, a good start.
Let's look at Vincent Bugliosi: If Oswald didn't kill Kennedy, Kennedy wasn't killed--this is the level of Vincent Bugliosi's arrogance and deceit.
He follows with insults directed at anyone who addresses honestly the thousands of anomalies with the official propaganda--
--a propaganda designed to disguise the brutal and bloody hijacking of the national direction from peace to war. . .
. . .which cost us sixty thousand of our young people, millions of Vietnamese (most not making war) and millions of Cambodians (victims of the breakdown which allowed the horror).
Bugliosi is the apologist and accessory fifty years after the fact of mass murderers.
The best work on Bugliosi is the ten-part review of the brick by Jim DiEugenio which we hope to see in book form.
Bugliosi is still working against justice for this nation and for the victims, and, for any hope of transcending the evil of perpetual war.
The War on Terror is the replacement business model for the Cold War.
As for Manson, the phenomenon did not arise out of that lone individual--follow Jan's argument from deep political research.
I would add the Mansonettes as they attempted other presidential assassinations.
Your research must be in service to justice--and Bugliosi is a great obstruction to and defilement of justice.
You will find a masterful summation of the context of the state murder in James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters
This is not a case of I wore Nehru shirts in the 'sixties and went to discos in the 'seventies--this is the case of I once was lost but now am found--
Believe me my college poli sci department head tutored some of the leaders of the world and all the little dominos were in place--
--along comes this Kennedy--
Did you know Dulles said, "That little Kennedy. . .he thought he was a god."
A Not Entirely Positive Review, Mantik re B in context of the 23-page 2007 pdf:
Methinks ole Charlie is deliberately trying to leave that impression with folks so people will turn on me and say "that SOB Palamara changed his frickin' mind AGAIN". I had to tell Dawn Meredith, for one, that those quotes were from 2007, NOT now.
19-02-2013, 10:01 PM (This post was last modified: 20-02-2013, 12:51 PM by Jim Hackett II.)
That junk book "Kennedy Detail" is another in the long list of insider books of crap. Not just directed to the research in "Survivor Guilt" but the anti-LN community as a whole. An agenda is clear within reading the first 10 pages. I did pick it up cheap ($3), ah well - know thy enemy.
'They were there and we weren't' is not good enough not after Wm. Manchester's lies.
Moreover some real venom is expended to blast VPalamara after he became no longer part of the LN camp.
As for Vince B. - think about it, the man rode a black-op cover game to career building media addiction. This all (about Vince B) is not new Mae Brussels was on this in the middle 1970s. Where did Charlie get his money and the military acid to make up his "family", fresh out of prison? Somebody was bankrolling "the family". Vince B. doesn't even seem to notice the question or gives bogus explanations in his book.
Now I have to wonder about guilt of those he prosecuted after reading a few pages of his doorstop from the library. I didn't buy that tripe.
I am not taking a side, only taking all of this thread into my thinking.
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
Vince Palamara Wrote:Methinks ole Charlie is deliberately trying to leave that impression with folks so people will turn on me and say "that SOB Palamara changed his frickin' mind AGAIN". I had to tell Dawn Meredith, for one, that those quotes were from 2007, NOT now.
Ask yourself--why is old Charlie doing this?
Hmmm...
Do you REALLY want to fuck with me, Vince?
ME?
Look at post 18 here, where I put up your plea.
I haven't hidden anything.
The vintage of your embrace of the LN lie means NOTHING. You defected then, you can defect again.
You are not to be trusted, Vince.
And if, in your book, you equivocate in the slightest fashion regarding your position on the JFK hit, I am going to make it part of my life's work to expose you for what I suspect you are.
So put down the mirror and start right now: Do you attribute SS failures in Dealey Plaza to incompetence, or to criminal intent, or to a combination of the two?
Do you "believe in" conspiracy, or are you prepared to stake your reputation -- such as it is -- on a bold statement of your certain knowledge of conspiracy?
And while you're thinking up answers, know that "old Charlie" is armed and dangerous.
Vince Palamara Wrote:Methinks ole Charlie is deliberately trying to leave that impression with folks so people will turn on me and say "that SOB Palamara changed his frickin' mind AGAIN". I had to tell Dawn Meredith, for one, that those quotes were from 2007, NOT now.
Ask yourself--why is old Charlie doing this?
Hmmm...
C'mon, Little Vinny.
Did you look at post 18 on this thread -- the post on which I explained, by quoting you, that in fact your embrace of Bugliosi dates to 2007?
Did you?
So what is it that "old Charlie" is doing?
Hmmm ... ???
You're full of shit, Vince. You are not to be trusted. You are a raging egomaniac available to the highest bidding idolater.
Vince, thanks for your sincere and thoughtful explanation.
I don't think it's necessary to say anything further about Vince's posts on this thread or Charles Drago's response to them. They speak for themselves.
I look forward to the publication of Vince's book.
Don Jeffries Wrote:Vince, thanks for your sincere and thoughtful explanation.
I don't think it's necessary to say anything further about Vince's posts on this thread or Charles Drago's response to them. They speak for themselves.
I look forward to the publication of Vince's book.
Oh lovely! Miss Manners returns from the Special Olympics debate team camp to weigh in on Vacillating Vinny.
We see hollow-eyed Manson in the Colorado Joker and Sandy Hook creature; only the drugs have been changed
Joker's analyst was USAF CMO; Manson is connected to ONI, as was Lee calling the Hurt Locker Saturday night
Posner defended Ahmed Wali Karzai accused of being a CIA asset and drug lord. AWK was assassinated and his aide presents features of interest and an enduring link to Case Closed propagandist:
Family members said that Shah Wali Karzai had also been trying to unlock the secrets of his dead brother's fortune.
After Ahmed Wali Karzai was killed, his most trusted aide, Zamarai like many Afghans, he uses only one name moved to Dubai. Reports of his lavish lifestyle there fed suspicions within the family that Zamarai had access to riches hidden by Ahmed Wali Karzai, perhaps through accounts and properties that had been placed in Zamarai's name.
When Zamarai returned recently to Kandahar some family members claim he was lured back by Aziz Karzai, Afghanistan's ambassador to Russia and President Karzai's uncle, an account the envoy flatly denies he was detained by security personnel working for Shah Wali Karzai, according to relatives.
Mahmoud Karzai says he believes that Zamarai knows the whereabouts of "one or two million dollars." Others familiar with the matter say that Shah Wali Karzai suspects that Zamarai knows about hundreds of millions of dollars more hidden in Dubai and elsewhere, including assets in Afghan businesses and real estate.
Zamarai is being held at Sarposa Prison in Kandahar, where he is guarded by Shah Wali Karzai's security personnel rather than the regular prison guards, according to several people familiar with the matter but who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution from the Karzai family.
He has not been charged with any crime.
When asked through Gerald Posner, a Karzai family lawyer, about Zamarai and whether he is holding him, Shah Wali Karzai declined to comment.
B found nothing like the links Mae Brussel pulled from clipping 15 papers a day. My father and his father for the decades of the newspaper ran a clipping service, the ladies in the Reading Room with their nice, long, silver scissors smoothly slitting papers at wood carrels to go round the country in manila envelopes.
B found Oswald not the ONI/FBI/CIA intelligence operative revealed by all the diligent researchers (e.g., Evica, Prouty, Turner, Douglass, DiEugenio, et al) but the Mailer caricature, the Communist spat out by William F. Buckley Sneering Elite slandering Mark Lane Firing Line 1966
B bought the 26 volumes, the Magic Bullet, CE 399, the Nicene Creed of Clark and Blakey, serving as the willing handmaiden to the bloodsoaking of an American generation and genocide of Southeast Asians
How curious that DiCaprio who Aviated to fame playing the Hughes whose CIA ties extend well beyond the Glomar Explorer and whose Maheu was a key link for the Angleton clique to trickle down through Harvey to Roselli, and Ruby his boy
When Perry described the throat wound as one of entrance his first attacker was Secret Service agent Elmer Moore who would spoon feed the Commission and call Kennedy a traitor--incompetence, negligence or part of an attack on the king
When Greer braked the limo to wait for the headshot is there really an innocent explanation
Washing the limo at Parkland
Destroying evidence in the garage
Kidnapping the body
Enforcing the LeMay regimen at Bethesda
Destroying the files for 1963 rather than abiding by the JFK Act and submitting them to the ARRB
Emory Roberts' order to not move
Removing the agents from the back of the limo at Love
Bolden's account of open animosity (but they were on their best behavior to researchers for posterity)
You worry too much, Marty
The Secret Service has taken care of everything, Henry
Oh, to be sure
B blames it all on the Communist
To this day--this supposedly brilliant man slanders the official scapegoat while blinding himself to a thousand findings fatal to the myth
He's all in and can't pull out
In the Albuquerque book store/ the "brick," we call it/ could not be sold
I was trying to be classy with my last post. Charles, since you won't have it any other way- your response to Vince's articulate and reasonable explanation (which he didn't owe you) was childish and profane. You want to convey the image of a towering intellect, and everyone here incomprehensibly bows down to you and enables your outrageous behavior. You come off like a pompous internet bully.
I know you don't have the capacity for it, but try and re-read what you wrote. You sound like you're quoting a bad Western movie- "You gonna fuck with ME, boy?" THAT is your idea of an intellectually impressive reply? And once again, the reference to "heavy weapons." Are you planning to shoot Vince? You bring debate down to the playground level.
Vince was exactly right- you are constantly playing semantic games, while inferring that you, and only you, comprehend absolute truth. If even one of your devoted sycophants slips up and, in your mind, uses the wrong word, they feel the full brunt of the Dragonian wrath. You are not a benevolent ruler, and demand total, unadulterated subservience from your followers.
And yet you have the audacity to demand that Albert Doyle be banned, and resort to juvenile name calling. Just writing things like "Little Vinny" and "Miss Manners" alone discredits you in the eyes of mature and responsible people. Your fan base here may continue to ignore your tantrums, but I feel no obligation to do so. I've been studying this case for nearly forty years, and I don't need you to lecture me about any aspect of it. You overestimate your own influence and your base of knowledge. In fact, I'm not even sure how much you do know about this case, since you seem to spend most of your time here snidely putting others down and vaguely hinting at things only you know.
