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The Cover-Up: How Was Movement from Phase I to Phase II Justified?
#81
Jan, you said:
Quote:Eugenics is key to understanding elite actions.

The origin of eugenics is not in America.

It lies in occult dreams of Power and Control.

"Occult" in its simplest meaning "secret." Or as in, for example, Ordo Templi Orientis, et. al?

And if the latter, which I suspect is your meaning, why would the eugenicists have been so powerful and effective? Instead, why wouldn't they be limited to being a bunch of kooks fulminating about the Untermenschen? To ask the question another way, why wouldn't this insanely wealthy coterie care about such things when they could just use their money to amuse themselves? Are you suggesting under this scenario that those who who would make the history of a depopulating world are a death worshiping religious cult?

And CD said this:
Quote:An example: It is impossible for me and others not to see ritual and magic(k) driving the brutal subjugations of indigenous aboriginal/tribal peoples by their imperialist conquerors long after military and material objectives of conquest have been met.

Same thing?
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#82
A "death worshiping religious cult"?

I don't know.

For the all-powerful, the urge to acquire is insatiable. Even when there is nothing material left to acquire.

So to pervert the old saying, what does a man who has every material thing give to himself?

Think of the following as a cautionary tale:

I'll share a very small part of a story told to me in the '90s by a JFK researcher whose work was well respected during that period but who to my knowledge has not been publicly active in our erstwhile community for at least 20 years. It involves repressed/recovered memory therapy (I'm aware of the attendant controversy) and the story of a young patient who, while being treated, spoke of a Satanic cult based in the Midwestern U.S. and the absurdly wealthy Republican who led it.

The patient claimed to remember that, as a young child, he/she suffered ritual sexual abuse during cult ceremonies.

In addition, the patient told of overhearing how the Republican power broker helped fund the assassination and demanded his pound of flesh: the dead president's brain -- which he and his top acolytes consumed in a ceremony held on the weekend of the 22nd of November, 1963.

As I was being told this story, I recalled the ancient hunter's ritual of consuming that part of his prey's body from which its strength was said to originate -- the heart of a wolf, for example.

Or in the slaughtered JFK's case, the source of what was perceived to be his greatest strength: his brain, the seat of his mind.

Now that's thought for food.

I assure you, there was nothing the least bit humorous about the person who told me the story or the setting in which I heard it.

My initial conclusion -- one that I've maintained to this day -- is that the JFK researcher was pitching a movie plot to me (I had a few industry connections then as I do now). Parts of the story that I'm leaving out are horrific in the extreme. Names were named. Big names.

I passed. And I haven't heard from the researcher since.
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#83
Food for thought? That's sick.

Back to the subject at hand: you use the phrase "ritual and magic(k)": what do you mean by that?
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#84
What I originally wrote:

"An example: It is impossible for me and others not to see ritual and magic(k) driving the brutal subjugations of indigenous aboriginal/tribal peoples by their imperialist conquerors long after military and material objectives of conquest have been met."

The replacement by violence of one controlling spiritual/scientific/political system by another may be understood as magical ritual in the sense that Giordano Bruno might have used the term.

(After he conquered the Aztec Empire, Cortés ordered that the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of Mary of Mexico City be built on the vanquished race's most sacred ground. Stones from the temple of Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec's god of war, were used in its construction.

Mt. Rushmore was carved into the summit a natural "temple" within the Black Hills, territory of immense spiritual significance for the vanquished Lakota [Sioux] peoples.

It is as if Barbarians had sacked post-Renaissance Rome and painted over the Sistine Chapel ceiling portraits of their bloodthirsty deities and leaders.)

What Bruno represented to the controlling spiritual/scientific/political system of his time was mortally threatening heresy: He combined an embrace of Copernicus's heliocentrism with understanding and promotion of the ancient Hermetic tradition.

Bruno also spoke openly of the Church's hellish condition, conjuring descriptions that might have been written about today's Church:

From The Torch-Bearer: "You will see, in mixed confusion, snatches of cutpurses, wiles of cheats, enterprises of rogues; also delicious repulsiveness, bitter sweets, foolish decisions, mistaken faith and crippled hopes, niggard charities, judges noble and serious for other men's affairs with little truth in their own; virile women, effeminate men and voices of craft and not of mercy so that he who believes most is most fooled, and everywhere the love of gold."

I do not even remotely approach the status of Bruno scholar, so I'm treading very carefully so as not to cross the dilettante line.

What I cannot help but note, however, is that JFK represented a Bruno-like threat to the controlling spiritual/scientific/political system of his/our time.

And what I cannot help but conclude is that those at the pinnacle of the Sponsorship level secretly included spiritual -- or magical -- ritual within the larger conspiracy they set in motion.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy was a heretic.

The executions of heretics are presented as magical rituals. And the heretics know it.

As Jan reminds us in his signature, another victim of the Conquistadors, the last Inka Tupac Amaru, invoked his greatest deity as he spoke his last words: "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."

"Mother Earth, witness how my enemies shed my blood."

Upon hearing his death sentence, Giordano Bruno said, "Maiori forsan cum timore sententiam in me fertis quam ego accipiam."

"Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it."

Bruno was roasted by the friars in 1600.

Some 363 years later, Kennedy's mind was blown out in a car.

We are told that his last word's were, "I'm hit."

An unknown comedian suggested that they might have been, "I need a hardtop like I need a hole in the head."

I prefer to think of them as, "And we are all mortal."
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#85
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Food for thought? That's sick.

"Thought for food," actually.

You know ... as in eating Kennedy's brain ...

Comics get cheesed off when some of their best lines are stepped on.
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#86
Quote:"An example: It is impossible for me and others not to see ritual and magic(k) driving the brutal subjugations of indigenous aboriginal/tribal peoples by their imperialist conquerors long after military and material objectives of conquest have been met."

As in "Skull and Bones" supposedly stealing the skull of the Apache Cochise for ritual purposes???

And yes Charles,I've had the opportunity to deer hunt with Northern Cheyenne friends before.They would eat the deer liver raw on the spot.They still followed the old customs.
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Buckminster Fuller
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#87
It's Geronimo. But yes, precisely the same thing.

Thanks for that.
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#88
Charles Drago Wrote:What I originally wrote:

"An example: It is impossible for me and others not to see ritual and magic(k) driving the brutal subjugations of indigenous aboriginal/tribal peoples by their imperialist conquerors long after military and material objectives of conquest have been met."

The replacement by violence of one controlling spiritual/scientific/political system by another may be understood as magical ritual in the sense that Giordano Bruno might have used the term.

(After he conquered the Aztec Empire, Cortés ordered that the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of Mary of Mexico City be built on the vanquished race's most sacred ground. Stones from the temple of Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec's god of war, were used in its construction.

Mt. Rushmore was carved into the summit a natural "temple" within the Black Hills, territory of immense spiritual significance for the vanquished Lakota [Sioux] peoples.

It is as if Barbarians had sacked post-Renaissance Rome and painted over the Sistine Chapel ceiling portraits of their bloodthirsty deities and leaders.)

What Bruno represented to the controlling spiritual/scientific/political system of his time was mortally threatening heresy: He combined an embrace of Copernicus's heliocentrism with understanding and promotion of the ancient Hermetic tradition.

Bruno also spoke openly of the Church's hellish condition, conjuring descriptions that might have been written about today's Church:

From The Torch-Bearer: "You will see, in mixed confusion, snatches of cutpurses, wiles of cheats, enterprises of rogues; also delicious repulsiveness, bitter sweets, foolish decisions, mistaken faith and crippled hopes, niggard charities, judges noble and serious for other men's affairs with little truth in their own; virile women, effeminate men and voices of craft and not of mercy so that he who believes most is most fooled, and everywhere the love of gold."

I do not even remotely approach the status of Bruno scholar, so I'm treading very carefully so as not to cross the dilettante line.

What I cannot help but note, however, is that JFK represented a Bruno-like threat to the controlling spiritual/scientific/political system of his/our time.

And what I cannot help but conclude is that those at the pinnacle of the Sponsorship level secretly included spiritual -- or magical -- ritual within the larger conspiracy they set in motion.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy was a heretic.

The executions of heretics are presented as magical rituals. And the heretics know it.

As Jan reminds us in his signature, another victim of the Conquistadors, the last Inka Tupac Amaru, invoked his greatest deity as he spoke his last words: "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."

"Mother Earth, witness how my enemies shed my blood."

Upon hearing his death sentence, Giordano Bruno said, "Maiori forsan cum timore sententiam in me fertis quam ego accipiam."

"Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it."

Bruno was roasted by the friars in 1600.

Some 363 years later, Kennedy's mind was blown out in a car.

We are told that his last word's were, "I'm hit."

An unknown comedian suggested that they might have been, "I need a hardtop like I need a hole in the head."

I prefer to think of them as, "And we are all mortal."

The guidance on DPF is not to quote entire posts when replying to them, as it wastes bandwidth.

But no bandwidth is wasted by repeating these fine phrases.

I'm interested in the assassination of JFK as an act of ritual public sacrifice.

The slaughter of the heretic performed by hired serfs who did not know their Master, nor their Master's motivation.

Eugenics is about the purification of the stock, and the casting out of the unclean.

In occult terms. In Levenda's sense.

Tenochtitlan and Jasenovac are ritual sacrifice on a mass scale.

The essence of the occult meaning of King lies in the famous French phrase:

Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi!

In occult terms, JFK could not be shamed into retirement, or assassinated behind closed doors.

"That little Kennedy… he thought he was a god".


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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#89
Charles' ritual execution of the heretic and Jan's Dulles encapsulation of the thousand days:


"That little Kennedy… he thought he was a god".


To the Beatles' "he blew his mind out in a car"

Seymour Hersh and Noam Chomsky and Poz Bugsy the Church Lady attempt to make John Fitzgerald Kennedy an unperson





Angleton carried Dulles' ashes, eulogized Harvey, will soon be with the World's Greatest Liars in a warm place.

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An event in my view planned by Dulles using Hunt under Craft of Intelligence deniability (November 1961-1963)

Would LeMay say:



Justice would be exhuming all these people, the specter of the facilitation, and placing them at the cornerstone

of a Peace Corps latrine


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#90
Now feels an appropriate time to recount some of the tales of the ritual public slaughter of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru.

In 1571:

Quote:Tupac Amaru, a legitimate son of Manco Capac, emerged as the next ruler. Tupac Amaru had grown up in the Incan convent of Vilcabamba, the so-called religious university of the Incas. He was favored by the native religious and military leaders. Unlike Quispe Titu, Tupac Amaru was an adult. And he opposed Christianity and the Spanish occupation. In Vilcabamba all signs of Christianity were quickly destroyed and churches were leveled. The few Spaniards were killed and the borders closed to further incursions.

The Spaniards in Cuzco knew nothing of what had transpired. Two envoys sent were each in turn not allowed to enter the province and failed to contact the Inca. Also, the Spaniards had failed to send the tributes promised to the Inca in the treaty of Acobamba. A third envoy was killed by an Indian captain at the border, and this incident became known in Cuzco.

King Charles, in 1549, had decreed that conquest expeditions were to engage in fighting only in self-defense because, in good conscience, their underlying authority stemmed from a papal edict to convert the pagans. Using the justification that the Incas had "broken the inviolate law observed by all nations of the world regarding ambassadors" (Murua 1, 246) the new Viceroy, Francisco de Toledo, decided to attack and conquer Vilcabamba. His proclamation of war was published on April 14, 1572. Two weeks later ten soldiers with artillery and firearms took possession of the bridge of Chuquichaca, the entrance to Vilcabamba province on the Urubamba River. By late May Toledo had assembled 250 Spanish soldiers and 2,000 Indian warriors.

On June 1, the first engagement of the war commenced in the Vilcabamba valley. The natives "advanced with their lances, maces, and arrows with as much spirit, brio and determination as the most experienced, valiant and disciplined soldiers of Flanders" (Salazar 4, 832) against the firearms and artillery for hours, then retreated. On the 23rd of June the fort of Huayna Pucará surrendered to Spanish artillery fire. Tupac Amaru had left for Vilcabamba the previous day. On June 24, 1572 the invaders occupied Vilcabamba, the last free Inca city. The city was found deserted and sacked. The houses of the Inca had been burned. All food stores had been destroyed and were still smoldering. Inca Tupac and a party of about 100 had escaped into the jungle in various directions the day before.

Three groups of pursuing Spanish soldiers returned. One group had captured Tuti Cusi's son and pregnant wife. A second returned with prisoners and a million in gold, silver and emeralds, which was divided between the soldiers and priests. The third group returned with Tupac Amaru's two brothers, other relatives and several of his generals. The Inca and his commander remained at large. A group of forty hand-picked soldiers set out to pursue them. They followed the Masahuay river for 170 miles, where they found an Inca warehouse with quantities of gold and the Inca's tableware. Captured Chunco Indians reported that Tupac was down river in Momorí. Expedition leader García de Loyola ordered the building of five rafts and pursued the Inca, surviving turbulent rapids en route.

At Momorí they discovered that Tupac had escaped by land. They followed with the help of the Mamarí Indians, who advised which path the Inca had followed and reported that Tupac was slowed by his wife, who was about to give birth. After a fifty mile march they saw a campfire around nine o'clock at night. They found Tupac Amaru and his wife warming themselves. They assured them that no harm would come to them and secured their surrender. Tupac Amaru was arrested.

The captured were marched into Cuzco on Sept. 21. Tupac Amaru was "held by a chain of gold round his neck" (Salazar 30, 278). The victors also brought the mummified remains of Manco Capac and Titu Cusi and a gold statue of Punchao, a representation of the Incan lineage containing the mortal remains of the hearts of the deceased Incas. The final stage of the conquest began in the prison where the attempt to indoctrinate and convert Tupac and his fellow captives to Christianity was undertaken. In a mere two days and nights they were instructed by a small army of proselytizers in all that was necessary for their baptism. At the same time they were tried and convicted. The five Native generals received a summary trial at which nothing was said in their defense. They were sentenced to hang. Several who died of the severe torture they received were nonetheless hung.

The "trial of the Inca was hurried and was manifestly unjust." (Hemming 445) Tupac Amaru was convicted of the murder of Friar Diego Ortiz and others, of which he was certainly innocent. Tupac Amaru was sentenced to be beheaded. Numerous clerics, convinced of Tupac Amaru's innocence, pleaded to no avail, on their knees before the Viceroy Toledo, that the Inca be sent to Spain for a trial instead of being executed.

An eyewitness report from the day recalls that Tupac Amaru was led through the streets of Cuzco between Father Alonso de Baranza and Father Molina, who instructed him for the benefit of his soul. Vega Laoiza has him riding a mule with hands tied behind his back and a rope around his neck. Gabriel Oviedo and Baltasar de Ocampo report great crowds and the Inca surrounded by 400 guards with lances. In front of the main cathedral in the central square of Cuzco a black-draped scaffold had been erected. The plaza was so densely crowded for the spectacle that the chief officer of the court rode down many people to clear a path. Reportedly 10,000 to 15,000 witnesses were present.

Tupac Amaru mounted the scaffold with Bishop Agustín de la Corunna. The "multitude of Indians, who completely filled the square, saw that lamentable spectacle [and knew] that their lord and Inca was to die, they deafened the skies, making them reverberate with their cries and wailing." (Murúa 271)

Murúa, writing in Spanish reported:

"Fue cosa notable, y de admiracíon, lo que refieren: que como la magnitud de yndios en la placa estauan, y toda la enchían, biendo aquel espectáculo triste y lamentable, que auía de morir allí su Ynga y señor, atronasen los cielos y los hicciesen retumbar con gritos, bocería y los parientes suios, que cerca estauab, con lágrimas y sollozos selebrasen aquella triste trajedia, los que en el tablado estauan a la execucíon mandase callar aquella jente a lo cual el pobre Tupa Amaro alcando la mano dío una palmada con la cual toda la gente callámás llanto ni boz ninguna, que fue yndicio y señal manifiesta de la obedencia, temor y respeto que los indios tenía a sus incas y señores. Pues aquel que jamás los más auían visto, pues siempre se estuuiere en Vilcabamba, retirado desde niño, a una palmada reprimieron los llantos y lágrimas salidas del coraón que tan dificultosas son de ocultar y esconder..."

Tupac Amaru calmly raised his hands and silence and motionlessness fell upon the densely packed crowd. Several versions survive of the Inca's speech. In one report Tupac spoke and implored the crowd to never curse their children for bad behavior, but only to punish them, for once he had annoyed his mother and she cursed him with an unnatural death. The priests convinced him that his death was the wish of God. He asked forgiveness of everyone and told the Viceroy he would pray to God for him. Bishop Popoyán and some priest implored the Viceroy to send Tupac Amaru to Spain to be tried by the king. The viceroy, Francisco de Toledo ordered Juan de Soto, his servant and law officer of the court through the crowd to the center of the spectacle. He galloped furiously to the gallows with the Viceroy's order that the Inca's head be cut off at once, crushing many people in the crowd.

In another report, based on Salazar, the Inca is reported to have renounced Incan religion and admitted to the crowd that he had become a Christian. He reportedly stated that everything the Incas had said about their relationship to the Sun was false. It is likelier that a priest delivered this message from the gallows.

Another eyewitness, Juan Quispe Kuro, reports that Tupac Amaru's last request was that he be allowed to say good-bye to his young children, who ascended the gallows with dignity and hugged their father.

As reported by Baltasar de Ocampa and Friar Gabriel de Oviedo, Prior of the Dominicans at Cuzco, both eyewitnesses, the Incas last words were, "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."

"Mother Earth, witness how my enemies shed my blood."

By one account Tupac Amaru placed his head on the block. The executioner took Tupac's hair in one hand and severed his head in a single blow. He raised his head in the air for the crowd to view. At the same time all the bells of the many churches and monasteries of the city were rung. A great sorrow and tears were brought to all the native peoples present.

The military leader of the Incan army, Wallpa Yupanki was also decapitated, two generals were hung and the hands of three other resistors were chopped off, according to Guillon's recounting. Toledo also ordered the burning of the mummies of the Incas.

Baltasar Ocampo reports that Tupac Amaru's severed head was impaled on a lance near the gallows.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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