Vancouver-bound author James Douglass on JFK and the Unspeakable

[Gordon Gray]

I would imagine most of the sponsers thought along the lines of Arthur Jensen.

[Charles Drago]

Thanks for the reference.

The "analysis" so brilliantly spoken is, in my view, close to spot-on.

Toward the very end it alludes to an authority that supersedes the business model, and I might have spent a minute or so addressing its existence and role.

Are we looking at a de facto dramatization of a JFK assassination Sponsor? Or a highest-level Facilitator?

I really can't answer my own question.

[Adele Edisen]

Charles,

My next question was going to be: Could a Sponsor also be a Facilitator, or a Facilitator be a Sponsor? In a Network, it really might not matter so much about the interchange of roles or when it occurs, except for the money and/or benefit factor?

Adele

[Charles Drago]

In the JFK conspiracy model that George Michael Evica and I created and evolved (the only model for which I'm able to speak), the true Sponsors of the assassination almost certainly did not operate at the Facilitator level. It's all about insulation and deniability.

Only the highest level Facilitators would have enjoyed a limited, working appreciation of the Sponsors.

No interchangeability, I'd say.

[Cliff Varnell]

In the JFK conspiracy model that George Michael Evica and I created and evolved (the only model for which I'm able to speak), the true Sponsors of the assassination almost certainly did not operate at the Facilitator level. It's all about insulation and deniability.

Only the highest level Facilitators would have enjoyed a limited, working appreciation of the Sponsors.

No interchangeability, I'd say.

I look for people who act in a SUPRANATIONAL manner. Sovereign, if you will.

In 1941 W. Averell Harriman worked for FDR administering Lend Lease aid to England and the Soviet Union while acting as Hitler's banker on his day job. Played four sides against the middle.

That's some Sovereign shit!

2 years after he died in 1986 the son of Harriman's long-time retainer Prescott Bush -- George HW Bush -- was elected President. In 1992 Harriman's widow -- Pamela Churchill Harriman -- collected $12.5 million for Bill Clinton's campaign. In 2000 and 2004 the grandson of Harriman's long time retainer stole the Presidential elections.

So for 20 years after he was dead Harriman Legacy proteges occupied the White House, hook or by crook.

Who's likely to face off in 2016? Hillary Clinton v. Jeb Bush.

Tell me this shit ain't rigged!

[Jim DiEugenio]

I always though this was the best scene from Network. The one that would live on after some of the cliches in that film were forgotten.

This scene was adroitly directed by Lumet, beautifully shot by Roizman, and smashingly acted by Ned Beatty.

What it says about the future of the media has turned out to be oh so painfully accurate. Its not enough that six giant companies own something like 70 per cent of the media in America. They actually want more. People like Murdoch want to control all the media everywhere. And they will not stop until they do so in some way.

And they will abide by a goof like the Finch character only for awhile. Then, like Glenn Back, he is off the network. Substitute Beck for Finch and Ailes for Beatty, and this is real life.

Thank God for Al Jazeera, and Al Gore for giving them an opening in the USA.

[John Mooney]

"one vast ecumenical holding company".

But that's only the body.

The lifeforce is the heart that supplies the blood to the body and can even create it out of nothing.

"I have seen the face of God".

[Gordon Gray]

I always though this was the best scene from Network. The one that would live on after some of the cliches in that film were forgotten.

This scene was adroitly directed by Lumet, beautifully shot by Roizman, and smashingly acted by Ned Beatty.

What it says about the future of the media has turned out to be oh so painfully accurate. Its not enough that six giant companies own something like 70 per cent of the media in America. They actually want more. People like Murdoch want to control all the media everywhere. And they will not stop until they do so in some way.

And they will abide by a goof like the Finch character only for awhile. Then, like Glenn Back, he is off the network. Substitute Beck for Finch and Ailes for Beatty, and this is real life.

Thank God for Al Jazeera, and Al Gore for giving them an opening in the USA.

Paddy Chayefsky was highly underated American writer IMO. Networks and Hospital were amazingly prophetic. Who would have anticipated the likes of Glen Beck and FUX News in the early 70's. Curious as to what you think the cliche's were?

[Phil Dragoo]

Wired the special blue ahead.

Hid his stash in the wall.

Hit the street on his speedball run

swept up an armload from the newstand

and fired it back

at the elite

with his (gun)



And David with five smooth stones

can still bring Goliath down

Murdoch morlock schlock rock

Retrieve your voice from the hock shop

[Jim DiEugenio]

Gordon:

I thought some of the personal situations were kind of trite, as was some of the dialogue.

And I thought the ending was over the top. But the picture was so well made and acted that these were blurred.

I actually reviewed the movie when it came out. I thought it was one of Lumet's best. And certainly Paddy's best script. ALthough The Hospital was good.

BTW, what a joke the Academy Awards are.

That year, Network and Taxi Driver were both up for Best Picture. They were beaten by Rocky.

What a joke. That is why I don't watch the Oscars anymore.

BTW: Is your name a coincidence, if you know what I mean?