Charles, I wouldn't read too much into my often hastily-typed posts. Yes, I should have said "and" rather than "or." Cuban exiles have always been high on my suspect list, at the lowest level of dirty work, because of people like Homer Echeverria ranting to an informant "as soon as we take care of Kennedy," or Nestor Castellanos being recorded saying "We're going to give him the works when he gets in Dallas. Mr. good ol' Kennedy. I wouldn't even call him President Kennedy."
They probably had their pick of exiles volunteering for the job, and then later those involved could be easily disposed of in a botched raid on Cuba, or say that "Castro agents" put a hatchet in someone's head. They were easily-manipulated patsies, like Oswald.
At least I didn't include Johnny Roselli in the storm drain and Jim Braden in the Dal-Tex Bldg.
With the greatest respect for Jack White... Wanting to see it does not change the physics of shadow and light.
One of the easiest ways to determine if "Badge" and "Hardhat" men (and GA) are there is to ask yourself about the shadows...
Is it possible for objects in deep shadow to REFLECT LIGHT to the camera lens...? or is more realistic the "light" areas are instead the sky's light coming thru the trees?
The yellow lines represent the angle of the sun... neither the bright spots on GA (which again are impossible if this is a solid object) or what would be considered the "badge" and "shoulder patch" are impossibly lit.
Add now the size problems, distance problems and the reailty of where the witnesses actually placed a knoll shooter... and we are back to that location NOT being where a shot was fired...
To tie it all up in a knot... there was no late entry of a uniformed police officer to the fence...
Tippit was on the 4100 block of Bonnieview at Keist at 12:20...
JFK was scheduled to be at the Trade Mart at 12:15 but was running late...
McBride and anyone else claiming Tippit was in DP at 12:30, especially on the GK as the Badgeman... has quite a lot of existing evidence to address...
While I'm not a fan of McAdam's site... this updated article from Bill Drenas offers evidence that virtually precludes Tippit from being in DP at all....
Let alone be the impossibe photo artifact that is actually leaves and sky known as Badgeman. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/car10.htm
Shortly after publishing this article Irish researcher Chris
Scally sent me a letter he received from the late Larry Harris in 1984 that
contained information about the [URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/markout3.gif"]4100 Bonnie View
call[/URL]. Larry wrote "In 1978 I interviewed the manager of a grocery market at
4121 Bonnie View; He told me that during the noon hour on 11/22/63, he caught a
woman shoplifter and phoned the police; it was Tippit who responded. The store
manager knew Tippit because it was almost invariably Tippit who responded to
calls for shoplifters. The manager told me that Tippit placed the woman in the
squad car and left. So indeed Tippit was on an investigation at 12:17 P.M.
nevertheless, it is disturbing and perhaps significant that this incident is not
reflected more substantially in the tapes or transcripts."
Larry Harris's investigator Ken M. Holmes Jr confirms this story. In 1963
Hodges Super Market occupied 4121 Bonnie View Road
(1963 Dallas City Directory). On my last trip to Dallas in November of 1997 the
small shopping plaza that contained this store was vacant with for sale signs on
it.
Who this shoplifter was, what happened to her, how Tippit was really alerted
to this location and what impact this could have had on the events that follow
are still not known. This story has confirmation from the grocer who was a known
and interviewed eyewitness, where as the story from Investigation of a
Homicide' that was previously reported in the original article has never been
confirmed.
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Now, AND JUST FOR SH!TS AND GIGGLES... I "discovered" this person kneeling in front of the retaining wall... I "CREATED HIM" to illustrate to those who doubt, pulling images from light and shadow is not hard...
a little corroborating evidence always comes in handy... Charles is correct in his insistence that there be some examination of the actual evidence regarding Tippit... at least enough to rule out he was anywhere else at the time.
DJ
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:Charles, I wouldn't read too much into my often hastily-typed posts. Yes, I should have said "and" rather than "or." Cuban exiles have always been high on my suspect list, at the lowest level of dirty work, because of people like Homer Echeverria ranting to an informant "as soon as we take care of Kennedy," or Nestor Castellanos being recorded saying "We're going to give him the works when he gets in Dallas. Mr. good ol' Kennedy. I wouldn't even call him President Kennedy."
They probably had their pick of exiles volunteering for the job, and then later those involved could be easily disposed of in a botched raid on Cuba, or say that "Castro agents" put a hatchet in someone's head. They were easily-manipulated patsies, like Oswald.
At least I didn't include Johnny Roselli in the storm drain and Jim Braden in the Dal-Tex Bldg.
I just have to jump in on that comment.... "At Least...." ??
The description from those that have seen a DIFFERENT but more complete ZAPRUDER FILM is that JFK literally raises up in his seat when he was hit in the head...
The Dallas sewers were looked at and mapped.
Roselli and Braden were involved and Braden was there in DP.
I think there is much more in the way of evidence suggesting a shot was (or could have been) fired from "A" sewer location in DP, than there is for Tippit being on the GK and being Badgeman.
Cuban "talk" of the hit sounds like only so much machismo among criminals. Mad italians said the same thing.... as did angry SS agents, disgruntled FBI men and MOST of the senior brass of the US Military...
Add to this the # of private citizens in a position to affect policy and bankroll a hit and we have a whole slew of people "Gonna get him" or "we got him"....
Echeverria's comment comes THIRD HAND... and even THAT allegedly:
2-1-266 (an informant) advised that he HEARD (from who?) that MOSLEY ALLEGEDLY was talking with Homer, and that HOMER ALLEGEDLY made a comment...
and THIS becomes the basis for a terrible book by Piper, and "proof" that Cubans were involved ????
Please.
As I've said before and will say again... Cubans, CIA, SS, FBI, etc... are all convenient scapegoats for the USMilitary... the ONLY body having the power, reach, personnel and desire to handle it all.
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I have extensive sections on the "Badge Man" photo and on the conflicting
reports of Tippit's whereabouts during that crucial period (including the story about him being
home having lunch). Those conflicting reports have problems of timing and other
issues that I examine in detail. I don't draw a conclusion
that Tippit was "Badge Man" but raise that possibility and note
the conflicting stories that still need resolution. Jack White carefully showed me in his office
how he did the photographic work that led to the blowup of the "Badge Man"
image from the Moorman photo and walked me through the
process, which satisfied me that he knew what he was talking about. Of course, there has been a lot of debate
over that image both pro and con all along. It's often ignored that there are other photos taken at the time
of the assassination showing the man behind the retaining wall ("Badge Man"
or "Black Dog Man"; the same figure, in my opinion). There is also
a witness who reported on two Dallas policemen firing
from close to her on the knoll. If people have more specific
questions about these sections in the book, I'd be happy to answer
them, but if someone hasn't read my highly detailed discussions, it
seems a bit redundant and possibly reductive to try to go into
more here.
David Josephs Wrote:As I've said before and will say again... Cubans, CIA, SS, FBI, etc... are all convenient scapegoats for the USMilitary... the ONLY body having the power, reach, personnel and desire to handle it all.
I tend to agree with you, but then why are you saying Roselli and Braden were involved? Is there any evidence that these two mob fixers/con artists were proficient with rifles? Besides, American mobsters are known for using handguns, machine guns and explosives. We know that many Cuban exiles received US military training, so how hard is it to believe that the military and CIA used them to carry out the dirty jobs in the assassination plot, and then eliminated them later?
I'm not disparaging the storm drain and Dal-Tex Bldg as shooting locations, just Roselli and Braden as shooters, a theory put forward by a couple of researchers I know.
the simple question of how to explain LIGHT shining toward Moorman's camera (as it does in Willis, Betzner, and a host of others) in the depth of SHADE does not require Tippit's whereabouts.
It's the same thing as discussing "Oswald's" rifle... there never was such a thing... Same with Badgeman.
This is both the positive and negative of that area... if the image of a person was really there, the reversal/negative of it would also be apparent.
The two blue arrows point to the "badge" and "shoulder patch" of the so called Badgeman image.
These two areas of light are REFLECTING from some source.... as is the white area above the "patch".
Jacks account notwithstanding.... the "smoke" coming out of the "barrell" is just that, SMOKE... which needs to REFLECT OFF SOME LIGHT SOURCE for it to have the appearance of a cloud of smoke...
The "badgeman's forehead" is also REFLECTING LIGHT and not a source of it....
Maybe you can just take a second - not to post your entire book, b[B]ut to address from your THEORY, how light coming from behind these two characters could illuminate a cloth patch, a cloud of smoke, a badge and forehead ([/B]and parts of the left side of this peron's head, also in shade) and not illuminate the entire person...
From what I've seen, there is no section of that fenceline in the area we are talking about - expecially so close to that tree - that was in sunlight.
Yet once you step back and color the sky blue... we find a person peering over the fence along the southern line... right where everyone but the FBI/DPD found footprints, cigarette butts and a muddy bumper...
and nothing but clear skies where GA, BM and HM are supposed to be.
I get that Tippit as Badgeman is only a theoretical piece in your puzzle solving... and one that will not be changed in your book.... yet until you can address the simple physics of light and shadow, the evidence can say anything you want it to... just as it did for the WCR, HSCA and others.... PROVING IT remains an entirely different matter
DJ
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13-08-2013, 01:27 AM (This post was last modified: 13-08-2013, 03:00 AM by David Josephs.)
Tracy Riddle Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:As I've said before and will say again... Cubans, CIA, SS, FBI, etc... are all convenient scapegoats for the USMilitary... the ONLY body having the power, reach, personnel and desire to handle it all.
I tend to agree with you, but then why are you saying Roselli and Braden were involved? Is there any evidence that these two mob fixers/con artists were proficient with rifles? Besides, American mobsters are known for using handguns, machine guns and explosives. We know that many Cuban exiles received US military training, so how hard is it to believe that the military and CIA used them to carry out the dirty jobs in the assassination plot, and then eliminated them later?
I'm not disparaging the storm drain and Dal-Tex Bldg as shooting locations, just Roselli and Braden as shooters, a theory put forward by a couple of researchers I know.
Not trying to argumentative, really... but prove they didn't shoot a rifle that day....
Prove Mr Braden did not fire from the Dal-Tex closet on the 2nd floor. Or that Roselli was not on the County Records bldg or in the sewer... or, or, or....
Why do I say these two were involved...? I didn't. The Military orchestrating the cover-up and conspiracy has little to do with what Roselli and Braden did.... Sponsors versus Facilitators.
Any researcher saying Roselli/Braden did anything is met with the same impossiblities... proof.
I subscribe to the Drago/Evica model while I am moving toward the men I named as the key players in the "Labels" thread are on the SPONSOR side of the equation. Kenney, Galloway, Anderson, LeMay
The Military kills.... The multi-nationals, those "above" country and state are usually in it for the power and money...
they take advantage of situations, help bankroll and create situations.... but I simply do not think this assassination occurs without the planning, cooperation and control of the USMIC
the foot soldiers - Cubans, mafia, CIA do it for revenge, for self and patriotism... and comprise the Facilitators/Mechanics of the operation.
I disagree that the shooters were "top-notch". They missed terribly... a number of times FROM THE REAR... but, on purpose - IDK?
From the front? not so much.... 2-3 shots, 2-3 hits...
Who was toughest on the block to get Greer to slow and Kellerman to orchestrate... who had their fingers in ALL the pies?
The Surgeon General of the Navy was complicit in altering the wounds of the president... with the help of Stover, Humes and Ebersole.
Galloway has his secretary type up the autopsy report - really?
More SS than you can shake a stick at (26 at Bethesda alone it was said) - better protection dead than alive....
Eliminated the Cubans? So how do so many turn up at Watergate and related activities 10 years later.... ?
I do not want to wander too far off track - this is about a new book and some discussion about Tippit and Badgeman. I think I've asked direct and simple questions that require only physics and common sense.
There was no Badgeman, Gordon Arnold is a ruse... and what we see in the physcial evidence is only a faint shadow of what actually happened.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
13-08-2013, 01:36 AM (This post was last modified: 13-08-2013, 02:55 AM by David Josephs.)
Joseph McBride Wrote:You're welcome to your opinion on these matters. I have
stated my views in my book and in my previous email.
Scientific fact is not a matter of opinion or interpretation Joseph... Light doesn't work the way you and others who see Badgeman claim.... it requires a source.
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