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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Ironically, Charles and I get along fine on Facebook now. Greg, however, appears to have held a grudge against me to such an extent that he actually let Ralph Cinque join his forum, but turned down my "application" out of hand. Now that's rejection.
::face.palm:: ::beammeup::
BTW, I was put on immediate moderation and now my account seems to be AWOL. I never said a single word!
My read on why Dragoo posted the Burnham video is because Greg linked Magda to Gary Mack and other villains in the his speech. It was meant as a slam. Pathetic.
I like the disappearing act with the UFO, I need to learn how to do this stuff, that's pretty cool, and thanks for sharing, lol...
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Greg's AssassinationofJFK website is pretty good. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise he branched off and formed his own site. He probably should have done it years ago.
On the other hand I noticed site member Robert Harper posted this:
" I wanted to dismiss Michael Piper's work until I read that Shamir had said "Jerusalem was worth a life" about the killing of diplomat Folke Bernadotte and read of JFK correspondence with Ben Gurion over the acquisition of the nuclear bomb by Israel and Israel's role as the middleman in the Iran-Contra /CIA adventure. "
None of the great objectors who attacked this subject on this site mentioned a word to Mr Harper even though they rallied and accused me of being some kind of multi-person CIA operation infiltrating the board when I tried to discuss Piper. I think this shows that their previous protests were based on power abuse and the sport of hunting members under the guise of Deep Politics oversight. Which turns out to be a euphemism for those whom I disagree with because they present facts I don't want to admit rather than any real offense.
Honestly Greg's site is pretty good and its articles are well presented and worth reading. However when I read it I can't help thinking of Greg in a Charlie Chaplin uniform with two +'s on the cap warning against violations of site rules and not tolerating spies who will be detected by dangling participle. There's a taking oneself too seriously and anal need for total control feel to that site that Greg should be aware of. While the site is good I think it's real purpose and function is to give Greg total power and he should know it detracts from it and makes it look like a refuge for an eccentric sect willing to pay the price of esoteric incomprehensibility and isolation in order to guard their particular overly defensive faith. An overreaction to a self-created threat that doesn't exist like imaginary spies. I see Charles is right back to his bashing and mensa level juvenile delinquency.
Sorry for the Fetzer moment but it had to be said.
I'm sorry, but I guess I'm a little slow today, only today. I had to stop and read this sentence three times. "There's a taking oneself too seriously and anal need for total control feel to that site that Greg should be aware of." Not because of what I've read, I needed to understand, that's not it. It's just that I thought that I was the only one thinking the same thing, lol...
Thanks for the laugh!
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The trains are running on time over there and Greg is personally making sure of it.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Greg's AssassinationofJFK website is pretty good. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise he branched off and formed his own site. He probably should have done it years ago.
Yes. Greg is a fine JFK researcher. And it is good to have another internet venue which hosts a voice against the lone nutters. Just a pity he needed to be moderated here for his Koch Brother Heartland Institute type climate change lunacy and spamming. But he is free to post what he likes on hi own forum. He won no friends here either with his rude and threatening emails/PMs. Not up there with Charlie's vitriolic spleen splattered communications but nasty and unwelcome nonetheless.
Albert Doyle Wrote:On the other hand I noticed site member Robert Harper posted this:
" I wanted to dismiss Michael Piper's work until I read that Shamir had said "Jerusalem was worth a life" about the killing of diplomat Folke Bernadotte and read of JFK correspondence with Ben Gurion over the acquisition of the nuclear bomb by Israel and Israel's role as the middleman in the Iran-Contra /CIA adventure. "
None of the great objectors who attacked this subject on this site mentioned a word to Mr Harper even though they rallied and accused me of being some kind of multi-person CIA operation infiltrating the board when I tried to discuss Piper. I think this shows that their previous protests were based on power abuse and the sport of hunting members under the guise of Deep Politics oversight. Which turns out to be a euphemism for those whom I disagree with because they present facts I don't want to admit rather than any real offense. Well, Israel as the sponsor is of course complete BS but I don't think you ever claimed that. Piper's book just rests on one quote from some criminal Cuban reject. That needed to be pointed out and debunked and there it should have rested. But it didn't and the circus clowns played on and on and on....
Albert Doyle Wrote:Honestly Greg's site is pretty good and its articles are well presented and worth reading. However when I read it I can't help thinking of Greg in a Charlie Chaplin uniform with two +'s on the cap warning against violations of site rules and not tolerating spies who will be detected by dangling participle. There's a taking oneself too seriously and anal need for total control feel to that site that Greg should be aware of. While the site is good I think it's real purpose and function is to give Greg total power and he should know it detracts from it and makes it look like a refuge for an eccentric sect willing to pay the price of esoteric incomprehensibility and isolation in order to guard their particular overly defensive faith. An overreaction to a self-created threat that doesn't exist like imaginary spies. I see Charles is right back to his bashing and mensa level juvenile delinquency.
And what a relief no more of that petty bullying here. The cult description would definitely seem that way to me too and others from what they say. The 'Sponsor-Facilitator-Mechanic' model is a great model but it is not the only one in the world. Some other ways of analysis can and do work too. Posters should be free to use other models and defend them, some are definitely better than others, and not be forced to use a dogmatic one size fits all size 6 shoe.
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Keith Millea Wrote:Quote:Greg's AssassinationofJFK website is pretty good. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise he branched off and formed his own site. He probably should have done it years ago.
I'm not a JFK student/researcher so I only lurk there.But,as you've said yourself Albert,"we are at war with JFK's killers".Greg and the others there know that and act accordingly.The old phrase (if you can't take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen),is good advice for people wanting to join that forum.Ask Bill Simpich.
It was "Golden" to see Cinque get tossed after only one post.It was "funny as hell" to watch James "professor" Norwood actually slink away from CD's questioning,like the weasle he is.He knew the jig was up!
I respect and miss those guy's..... Why would even waste your time allowing these guys (Cinque and Norwood) on to your forum if you know what they are like? And they do. Will end up being as bad as the EF and the alt lists having the fights to get click bait. Complete waste of time and energy.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Don Jeffries Wrote:I applied for membership at Greg Burnham's forum a while back, and never heard anything, leading me to assume I'd been summarily rejected. As some of you may remember, Greg and I had a series of ugly exchanges on this forum a few years back, regarding my give and take with Charles Drago.
Ironically, Charles and I get along fine on Facebook now. Greg, however, appears to have held a grudge against me to such an extent that he actually let Ralph Cinque join his forum, but turned down my "application" out of hand. Now that's rejection.
Greg and I used to be comrades on these forums, back when I felt comfortable calling him Monk. I don't understand him, much as I have trouble comprehending so many of the personalities that gravitate to this subject. I like to get along with everyone, and wish him the best with his forum.
Well, that's weird. And self defeating. But then Greg has said, according to others, that it is his forum and he can do whatever he likes. So being ornery and contrary is his right. On his forum.
I'm pleased you and Charles have sorted things out. I was upset with the way your disabled daugher? niece? was dragged into it all and the name calling and 'short bus' references.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
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Scott Kaiser Wrote:I suppose it's much easier to control your own forum, than it is to have other's who may oppose what you're saying, that way you don't feel challenged. BTW... You guy's are not alone when it comes to that rejection sight.
I'm with yeah. Sigh!
Just expressing, not bashing. I know, I too believe in the ole cliche, some of the people may like you some of the time, but not all the people are going like you all the time.
Did look a bit like a self congratulatory club and when it wasn't the heretics put on show trials and hounded for unclean thoughts.
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Ironically, Charles and I get along fine on Facebook now. Greg, however, appears to have held a grudge against me to such an extent that he actually let Ralph Cinque join his forum, but turned down my "application" out of hand. Now that's rejection.
::face.palm:: ::beammeup::
BTW, I was put on immediate moderation and now my account seems to be AWOL. I never said a single word!
My read on why Dragoo posted the Burnham video is because Greg linked Magda to Gary Mack and other villains in the his speech. It was meant as a slam. Pathetic.
Yes, there has been several people from this forum who have been either ignored like Don, or put on instant and permanent moderation or banished for no reason other than being a member of this forum. These are people that have not even had the opportunity to post anything yet. Let alone objectionable posts. Which I think is really petty and stupid and nasty of Greg and Charlie to treat people this way. These were also people who never had any problem with either one of them on this forum. We accept people from any forum here, Lancer, EF, Rich's (before it closed after his death) and Greg and Charlie's forum and other forums. Our only restriction is that we don't give a home to any the lone nutters and that the spirit of the forum rules are adhered to.
I agree Lauren that Phil's post was a sort of shitting in the nest act. Yes, pathetic and I would have expected more from him but there you go. Maybe he was just following orders?
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Ironically, Charles and I get along fine on Facebook now. Greg, however, appears to have held a grudge against me to such an extent that he actually let Ralph Cinque join his forum, but turned down my "application" out of hand. Now that's rejection.
::face.palm:: ::beammeup::
BTW, I was put on immediate moderation and now my account seems to be AWOL. I never said a single word!
My read on why Dragoo posted the Burnham video is because Greg linked Magda to Gary Mack and other villains in the his speech. It was meant as a slam. Pathetic.
He likened both David Guyatt and Magda to the villains. No words.
Dawn
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Ironically, Charles and I get along fine on Facebook now. Greg, however, appears to have held a grudge against me to such an extent that he actually let Ralph Cinque join his forum, but turned down my "application" out of hand. Now that's rejection.
::face.palm:: ::beammeup::
BTW, I was put on immediate moderation and now my account seems to be AWOL. I never said a single word!
My read on why Dragoo posted the Burnham video is because Greg linked Magda to Gary Mack and other villains in the his speech. It was meant as a slam. Pathetic.
He likened both David Guyatt and Magda to the villains. No words.
Dawn
It remains a ridiculous over-reaction imo.
Non je ne regrette rien.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge. Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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