It seems Honest Joe was one of those guys who knew everyone, including some of the more colorful folk. He mixed with Ruby, Lewis McWillie, the Campisis, and most of the Dallas underworld.
He was also associated with Julius Schepps, a prominent Dallas businessman and identity. That is a most interesting aspect to research as it leads to a man named Homer Beren who ultimately leads to Abraham Zapruder.
FWIW.
James
Thanks James. Was this just social or 'general' business - or did Honest [sic] Joe offer his business as a place illegal activities could be 'laundered' and made to occur?
10-03-2009, 04:34 PM (This post was last modified: 10-03-2009, 04:41 PM by Jack White.)
As suggested by long-time researcher Jones Harris...Honest Joe Rubin,
Jack Rubenstein, Abe Zapruder and OTHERS of the Dallas Jewish brotherhood
operated together on the fringes of organized crime.
Harris believes that Honest Joe was a participant in the plot, and that his
vehicle was behind the pergola during the shooting. The Honest Joe vehicle
WAS widely seen and reported around the parade route that day.
Julius Schepps was a wealthy Jewish dairyman and grocer, philanthropist
and civic leader. He at one time owned the Dallas baseball team. A Dallas
freeway is named for him.
I'm not sure what actually transpired on the premises but I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that not everything was above board.
David,
Jack has summed up Schepps pretty well. In addition, it might be worth adding that he was very close to a man named R.G. Storey who along with Earl Warren visited Jack Ruby in prison.
This image below shows Warren and Storey after that visit. It does make one wonder what stake Storey had in this.
At first look of your picture I thought it was Story's pally hand folded in the arms of Earl Warren. Then I looked again and saw I was wrong.
But then I thought about the positioning of hands in a glove puppet and thought phew!
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
James, NO Pawnshop I ever knew, less so such a large one as Honest Joe's is above board much.....his associations and very visible presence in the kill-zone THAT day when combined with his associations really makes one wonder......:hmmmm2:
Quote:Jan 12 2006 - Post #3 by Tosh Plumlee:
Thanks James. Yes I think you're right about Ed Mc Lemore. I might have mentioned him in a previous post. Ed Mc Lemore owned the "Sportatorium" in Dallas. He was also a close friend of Gordon Mc Clendon (phon) who owned radio KLIF and too, a close associate or Clint Murchison Sr. and operators of an Oil and gas drilling company in Midland Texas which LBJ held a financial interest.
Johnny Farentello's father had the concessions at the Wrestling arena ("The Sportatorum") Johnny was a close friend of John Martino of Miami. Fred Black used to hang out at the Sportatorum, as well as Mac Wallace. Jack Ruby made bets on "Gorgeous George" a wrestler of the time and Fred Black covered the bets. Candy Barr and Gary Dean Bearing also associated with this Dallas gambling bunch and others in Fort Worth Texas. These same people also hung out at " Austin's Bar BQ in Oakclif ( West Dallas) with Tom Pugh and Tippit of the Dallas PD.
I am trying to make the connection between the Army Intell unit, Seiwell and these people, because the money for guns were funneled through this place and some of these people had connections with Alpha-66 and Cecil Fernandez as well as others from Morgan City, LA. Some of the weapons came from the Texas National Guard.
Any help in this direction would be appreciated. I am not interested in the Cubans or Florida. That whole thing had nothing to do with JFK and Dallas. That was ongoing for a long time before JFK was murdered.
There are researchers who are members of this list who are concerned about the research Jay Harrison spent his entire life compiling, which is now in the hands of Walt Brown. However, Tosh Plumlee is alive and struggling to get researchers interested in helping make this connection. I find it amazing that nobody is helping with this. Richard Bartholomew did a fantastic job proving a Texas connection to that automobile allegedly connected to the JFK assassination and to certain persons in Austin, Texas. Jay Harrison and R.B. acquired the Rambler and stored it, and later Plumlee helped move it to another location. That auto and the persons connected to it provide essential proof about what happened in Dallas. Why is nobody interested in this subject?
"History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." --James Madison
Quote:Jan 12 2006 - Post #3 by Tosh Plumlee:
Thanks James. Yes I think you're right about Ed Mc Lemore. I might have mentioned him in a previous post. Ed Mc Lemore owned the "Sportatorium" in Dallas. He was also a close friend of Gordon Mc Clendon (phon) who owned radio KLIF and too, a close associate or Clint Murchison Sr. and operators of an Oil and gas drilling company in Midland Texas which LBJ held a financial interest.
Johnny Farentello's father had the concessions at the Wrestling arena ("The Sportatorum") Johnny was a close friend of John Martino of Miami. Fred Black used to hang out at the Sportatorum, as well as Mac Wallace. Jack Ruby made bets on "Gorgeous George" a wrestler of the time and Fred Black covered the bets. Candy Barr and Gary Dean Bearing also associated with this Dallas gambling bunch and others in Fort Worth Texas. These same people also hung out at " Austin's Bar BQ in Oakclif ( West Dallas) with Tom Pugh and Tippit of the Dallas PD.
I am trying to make the connection between the Army Intell unit, Seiwell and these people, because the money for guns were funneled through this place and some of these people had connections with Alpha-66 and Cecil Fernandez as well as others from Morgan City, LA. Some of the weapons came from the Texas National Guard.
Any help in this direction would be appreciated. I am not interested in the Cubans or Florida. That whole thing had nothing to do with JFK and Dallas. That was ongoing for a long time before JFK was murdered.
There are researchers who are members of this list who are concerned about the research Jay Harrison spent his entire life compiling, which is now in the hands of Walt Brown. However, Tosh Plumlee is alive and struggling to get researchers interested in helping make this connection. I find it amazing that nobody is helping with this. Richard Bartholomew did a fantastic job proving a Texas connection to that automobile allegedly connected to the JFK assassination and to certain persons in Austin, Texas. Jay Harrison and R.B. acquired the Rambler and stored it, and later Plumlee helped move it to another location. That auto and the persons connected to it provide essential proof about what happened in Dallas. Why is nobody interested in this subject?
Linda...why do you say nobody is interested? I am very interested. But
I know nothing to do, do you? It is pointless to even comment on, when
all I know is what Richard Bartholomew has written. I have nothing to add.
Quote:Jan 12 2006 - Post #3 by Tosh Plumlee:
Thanks James. Yes I think you're right about Ed Mc Lemore. I might have mentioned him in a previous post. Ed Mc Lemore owned the "Sportatorium" in Dallas. He was also a close friend of Gordon Mc Clendon (phon) who owned radio KLIF and too, a close associate or Clint Murchison Sr. and operators of an Oil and gas drilling company in Midland Texas which LBJ held a financial interest.
Johnny Farentello's father had the concessions at the Wrestling arena ("The Sportatorum") Johnny was a close friend of John Martino of Miami. Fred Black used to hang out at the Sportatorum, as well as Mac Wallace. Jack Ruby made bets on "Gorgeous George" a wrestler of the time and Fred Black covered the bets. Candy Barr and Gary Dean Bearing also associated with this Dallas gambling bunch and others in Fort Worth Texas. These same people also hung out at " Austin's Bar BQ in Oakclif ( West Dallas) with Tom Pugh and Tippit of the Dallas PD.
I am trying to make the connection between the Army Intell unit, Seiwell and these people, because the money for guns were funneled through this place and some of these people had connections with Alpha-66 and Cecil Fernandez as well as others from Morgan City, LA. Some of the weapons came from the Texas National Guard.
Any help in this direction would be appreciated. I am not interested in the Cubans or Florida. That whole thing had nothing to do with JFK and Dallas. That was ongoing for a long time before JFK was murdered.
There are researchers who are members of this list who are concerned about the research Jay Harrison spent his entire life compiling, which is now in the hands of Walt Brown. However, Tosh Plumlee is alive and struggling to get researchers interested in helping make this connection. I find it amazing that nobody is helping with this. Richard Bartholomew did a fantastic job proving a Texas connection to that automobile allegedly connected to the JFK assassination and to certain persons in Austin, Texas. Jay Harrison and R.B. acquired the Rambler and stored it, and later Plumlee helped move it to another location. That auto and the persons connected to it provide essential proof about what happened in Dallas. Why is nobody interested in this subject?
Don't lose the faith Linda. What you're doing is for the record. That won't go away (hopefully anyway).
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
