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The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis
#31
I believe Oswald was supposed to be killed at the Texas Theater.

When that did not happen, Ruby was put on alert to monitor him at the station.

When Oswald begins to be shocked at what has happened, he tries to call Hurt. THat was the signal that he wanted to consult with his controllers through a cut out.

And that was it. Whoever was the CIA liason with the Mafia said, "That's it. Make the phone call. Use whatever threats you have to."
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#32
William Kelly Wrote:
John Kowalski Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:Jim,

I could not agree with you more heartily regarding the Chicago evidence. My hypothesis has ZERO effect on its immense significance.

Ditto the "shameful" handling of Black's piece by rather, well, shameful people.

In re Bill's Rex and November 1 triple header hypothesis: I've long said that "consider the timing" is for our investigations what "follow the money" was for Watergate: a directing mantra. So I share your sense of the general significance of these connected phenomena.

It's just that I remain at a loss to understand how the Kelly hypothesis falsifies the Drago hypothesis in this instance.

BTW, a few years ago I found the Black piece on a now-forgotten Internet site. It was my first reading of it, and I thought it ended abruptly at a point where, if memory serves, Black is writing about returning to Chicago.

Are you able to direct us to an on-line version of the piece?

Thanks,

Charles

The link below has Edwin' Black's article about the Chicago plot that was published in the Chicago Independent in November, 1975.

http://www.blackopradio.com/The%20Chicag...0Black.pdf

John.


Thanks for that link John, that's new to me. I remember Sherman Skolnick had dug up some documents on Vallee, but there's a lot of stuff in there that's new to me. I think Black's anonymous SS informant is the real deal and not peddling dizinfo, and there should be a lot more documents available now since that was published. Also would like to see the complete article. CPD Capt. Robert Lisky, Jay Lawrence Sticks, Myron Weinstein and Thomas D. Strong are all new names to me.

I have never seen a complete rundown of Abe Bolden's claim about the Dallas office calling asking for info on a "Hurt," which would be worthwhile for someone to do.

BK

Here's a link to the entire article, including an interview with TAVallee.

http://www.harryandhisstuff.com/p/chicag...l-jfk.html
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#33
EDIT -- BY CHARLES DRAGO

All,

Bernice was kind enough to inform me that the information originally posted here in fact is copyrighted. Accordingly, we have taken it down.

The material is of great importance to this thread, to the larger investigations of the Chicago and Dallas plots, and to the study of the doppelganger phenomena in intel ops.

Please visit the copyright holders' site and read it ASAP:

http://www.hvpress.net/news/138/ARTICLE/...05-14.html
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#34
On June 23, 1966 the writer interviewed Charles Peterson, President of the Printing Pressmen's Assistants union which is a part of the International Printing Pressmen and Assistants Union of North America, 222 West Adams Street, room 325, Chicago, Illinois, telephone number 782-3417. He disclosed that the subject had come from Rogersville, Tennessee, in June, 1963, and had gained employment at the I.P.P. Lithographic Service, 625 West Jackson, Chicago, Illinois, and worked for Mr. Nemo Vola until January, 1964. At that time the subject stated that he was going to return to Tennessee.

© BACKGROUND AND IDENTITY OF SUBJECT:
Thomas Arthur Vallee is described as white; male; DOB 11/15/33; POB Chicago, Illinois; 5-6; 155 lbs; blue eyes; brown hair; Social Security number [blank]. U. S. Army Serial number 17-460-615; FBI number 677-475 E.
[Note, there is a notation that the blanked out Social Security number is incorrect. This appears to have been written by F. B. Stoner on 10-7-66. The correct number is likewise blacked out.]

(F) DISPOSITION:
Case remains closed.
Two copies of this report and two photographs of the subject are being forwarded to the Nashville office with the request that they attempt to locate the subject in Rogersville, Tennessee. If the subject, in fact, does reside in the Nashville office district, the complete Chicago file in this case will be forwarded to that office.
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#35
mailto:vincebethel@yahoo.com

The following is a detailed chronology, using many recently-releaseddocuments, demonstrating the Secret Service's pre-November 22 knowledgeof mortal threats to President Kennedy's life, as well as my major discoveryof a covert monitor of these threats put in place during the short days andweeks before the assassination. This chronology further strains the credi-bility of the notion that one man, Lee Harvey Oswald, "got lucky" duringthe very same time that the agency assigned to protect his alleged victimwere on the look-out for OTHER threats on JFK's life.

NOVEMBER 1963:


11/1: South Vietnam's president Diem is assassinated in a CIA-backedcoup;

11/2: JFK's trip to Chicago, IL was cancelled at the last minute due tomortal threats against his life: apart from Thomas Arthur Vallee, ThomasMosely, and Homer Echevarria, inluding a team of four Cuban gunman, 2 ofwhom eluded surveillance and escaped.1 Former agents SamKinney, Bill Greer, and James Griffiths told the HSCA that this trip wascancelled at the last minute---the excuses were varied: JFK had a cold [theCuban Missile Crisis alibi], Diem's death [refuted by Salinger, by theway], Thomas Arthur Vallee arrest, and others: Joseph Noonan, a Chicagooffice agent, told the HSCA that he "participated directly in surveillanceinvolving TOM MOSELY and HOMER ECHEVARRIA....he and [the] other agentswere uneasy that the Cubans might have some ties to the CIA...a little laterthey received a call from Headquarters to DROP EVERYTHING ON MOSELYAND ECHEVARRIA AND SEND ALL MEMOS, FILES, AND THEIR NOTEBOOKS TOWASHINGTON AND NOT TO DISCUSS THE CASE WITH ANYONE"(emphasis added).2
11/8 to 11/9: Kennedy's first, low profile trip to New York City
.3
A VERY IMPORTANT POINT TO KEEP IN MIND: THERE WERE NO PRS SPECIALAGENTS---THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE AGENTS THAT MONITOR THREATS TOTHE PRESIDENT---ON THIS TRIP OR ON ANY PREVIOUS TRIP IN 1963.
ALSO on 11/9: Miami, FL---FBI informant Willie Somersett tapes conversation with Joseph Milteer about plans to kill JFK (JFK to visit Miamion 11/18/63). This is known by the Secret Service BEFORE Dallas, asSAIC Bouck told me AND as Secret Service records reveal!4
11/10: PRS agent Glen Bennett was "temporarily assigned to the WhiteHouse Detail" on this date 5---
IMPORTANT INTERLUDE REGARDING PRS AGENT GLEN BENNETT: AlthoughBennett told the HSCA that he "was not on the Florida trip [11/18/63]"6,the Secret Service shift reports for that trip7 AND the Survey Reports'"8not only state he WAS indeed on this trip, but he RODE IN THE FOLOW-UPCAR! Miami WHD advance agent Bert DeFreese told the HSCA that "in 1963it was rare for a PRS agent from Washington to accompany an advance agentin to the field, and that no PRS agent accompanied [him] on this trip"9, yetBennett was with De Freese in Miami AND in Houston on 11/21/63 (!)Bennett further told the HSCA that he "was detailed from PRS to theWhite House Detail for the Dallas trip [11/22/63]. This was because therewas a manpower pull for the Dallas trip", a statement NOT backed up by therecently-released shift reports, courtesy of the ARRB. Furthermore, SamKinney told me that Bennett was making his FIRST trip on 11/22/63 which,while "corroborated" by Bennett's aforementioned statement to the HSCA, isALSO obviously contradicted by the above-mentioned shift reports and Surveyreports for the Florida trip of 11/18/63 AND, if that wasn't enough, Bennettwas on the SECOND New York, NY trip JFK made (11/14-11/15/63)10!

To review: 11/1---Diem assasinated; 11/2--JFK's Chicagotrip cancelled at the last minute due to threats; 11/8---start of JFK'sFIRST NY trip [no PRS agent on this trip, as there appears to have beenNONE on any prior trip---a rarity, according to DeFreese];

11/9----Milteer threat in Miami 11/10---Bennett temporarilyassigned to WHD from PRS... 11/11: SAIC of PRS Robert Bouck was notifiedabout JFK's upcoming SECOND trip to NY, NY for 11/14-11/15/63---BENNETT WAS THEN DISPATCHED TO JFK'S PRESIDENTIAL SUITE AT THECARLYLE HOTEL, PRIOR TO KENNEDY'S ARRIVAL, "to conduct a technicalsurvey" (NOT done on any prior trips in Nov., inc. the FIRST NY trip, tripsfrom October, September, or any other known to this author; coinciding withBennett's temporary assignment, his denials to the HSCA, and everything abovein toto, there is something going on here---the timing is everything);

11/13: Army code breaker Eugene Dinkin, who had foreknowledge of a threatand attempted to warn officials, is taken into custody by Army officialsand hospitalized (a Secret Service agent even interviews him) 11

11/14-11/15: the aforementioned SECOND NY, NY trip (shift leader ArtGodfrey, the advance agent on BOTH NY trips---he actually stayed IN NYbetween both trips---did NOT know the reason why JFK made the FIRST NYtrip or its purpose, although he was much aware of the second trip) [this isalso the trip where much is made, after the fact, of so-called securitylapses invoked by JFK].

11/18: JFK's Florida trip: Miami advance agent DeFreese admitted to theHSCA that "a threat did surface in connection with the Miami trip...therewas an active threat against the President which the Secret Service wasaware in November 1963 in the period immediately prior to JFK's trip toMiami made by a GROUP OF PEOPLE" (emphasis added). In addition to thisthreat info., and seperate from the 11/9 Milteer threat, a CO2 PRS file,released to the HSCA on 5/3/78 and available only recently reveals yetanother threat subject: John Warrington 12.Kinney told me of an unspecified "organized crime" threat related tothis same trip. [this is also the trip where, despite numerous films,photos, and interviews to the contrary, JFK allegedly ordered the agentsoff the rear of his limo, cited as causing peril in Dallas on 11/22/63 fromsuch diverse people as William Manchester and current Secret ServiceDirector Lewis Merletti!]

11/21-11/22:Texas trip (U.N. Ambassador Adlai Stevenson and Senator William Fulbrightwarn JFK not to go to Dallas)---

11/21: DNC advance man Marty Underwood gets "all sorts of rumors", 18hours before the assassination, that Kennedy was to be killed in Dallas13.Marty even conveys this to JFK, who tells him, "Marty, you worry about metoo much" (indeed, JFK told San Antonio Congressman Henry Gonzalez,"Henry, the Secret Service told me they took care of everything. There'snothing to worry about"); Advance agent Winston Lawson wrote in his reportthat " Agent Bennett was REMINDED that he would work Presidential follow-up car on the movement"14 .

11/22: While SA Bennett rides in the Secret Service follow-up car, scanningthe people lining the streets, President Kennedy is brutally cut down right infront of him.
AFTER the assassination: Bennett's observations---via his allegedlycontemporaneous handwritten notes from 11/22/63---were used by ChiefRowley to buttress the notion that Kennedy was struck in the back from theREAR, in spite of the films/ photos that appear to depict Bennett lookingaway from JFK, a point made by Lifton, Evica, Newcomb, and several othersbefore me. But this is almost ancillary to the major point made herein:

WAS PRS AGENT GLEN BENNETT MONITORING MORTAL THREATS TO JFK'SLIFE,MADE IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, AND WAS THIS COVERED UPAFTERWARDS? IS THIS THE REASON FOR THE CONFLICTING ACCOUNTS--AND THE TIMING---OF BENNETT'S PARTICIPATION IN THE SECOND NYTRIP, THE FLORIDA TRIP, AND THE TEXAS TRIP?DID BENNETT RIDE IN THE FOLLOW-UP CAR ON THESE TRIPS FOR THISPURPOSE? I BELIEVE SO.WHILE GLEN BENNETT IS STILL ALIVE, HE SHOULD BE GRANTED IMMUNITYAND GIVEN A CHANCE TO TELL THE TRUTH.

1 Author interviews with former Secret Service agents Abraham Boldenand Maurice Martineau.
2 RIF#'s 180-10104-10331; 180-10087-10191;180-10099-10491;180-10078-10493; 180-10082-10453; 154-10001-10174: SecretService shift report.
3 Interviews with the advance agent, ATSAIC/ Shift Leader Art Godfrey, 1996and 1997; see also RIF#'s 154-10001-10134 and 154-10001-10133:Secret Service shift reports.
4 CD 1347, p. 119.
5 Palamara, The Third Alternative; RIF# 154-10001-10120; 18 H 783.
6 RIF#180-10082-10452.
7 RIF#154-10001-10064.
8 RIF#'s 154-10002-10421 and 10422.
9 RIF#180-10083-10419.
10 RIF#154-10002-10419.
11 See Dick Russell's The Man Who Knew Too Much and Noel Twyman's BloodyTreason.
12 RIF#'s 180-10118-10041 and 10033.
13 Author's interview with Marty Underwood.
14 17 H 631---emphasis added.
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#36
Bernice Moore Wrote:just a thought but with jfk making the comment that the ss had taken care of that, and no threats reported from dallas, could that not have proceeded that the security was then made as lax as it was, no problems scenario, so no second thought to leaving the bubble top off, the sharp curve at elm, and the removing of the motorcycle guards and dpd car security from the motorcade as well..giving jfk and all a sense of false security...b

Precisely my point, Bernice.
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#37
Bernice Moore Wrote:The license plate and registration on the 1962 Ford Falcon that Vallee was driving on November 1st in Chicago was New York Registration License plate # 311-ORF and was registered in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald. This is 21 days prior to President Kennedy's assassination and the world knowing the name Oswald.

In research at The National Archives in Washington of The Assassination files of 25 Million documents it turned up that in fact NY plate 311-ORF at the Vallee Traffic stop was registered in the Name of Lee Harvey Oswald. Documents declassified also state that same car in Dallas Texas at the time of the assassination. The detailed information with the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles is still withheld by order of The US Secret Service and The FBI. In the 1960's license plate in the Hudson Valley were coded OR for Orange County, UL which meant Ulster County, SU was Sullivan County and DU was Dutchess County. Of the 25 Million documents in The JFK Assassination archives, there is a 6 page Secret Service report about a trip of President Kennedy to Stewart Air Force Base, (Newburgh, NY) and of him being shadowed by two member of George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party

http://www.hvpress.net/news/138/ARTICLE/...05-14.html

If this is accurate information, the Vallee/Lee registration overlap is to be appreciated as a classic tactic within the larger doppelganger strategy.
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#38
charles i just checked it out again and it is copyrighted not to be distributed, so perhaps you should delete it...best b
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#39
Bernice Moore Wrote:charles i just checked it out again and it is copyrighted not to be distributed, so perhaps you should delete it...best b

Bernice,

We do not publish copyrighted material without permission. Thanks for the heads-up. Please be SPECIFIC: Which of your posts contains such material?

Thanks,

Charles
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#40
Charles Drago Wrote:The Package, the 1989 film starring Gene Hackman and Tommy Lee Jones, directed by Andrew Davis, and written by John Bishop, presents as the most profound and illuminating cinematic rendering of 20th deep political events in general and the JFK assassination in particular (even though the Kennedy hit ostensibly has nothing to do with the film's plot) I've ever experienced.

Hackman plays an Army sargeant assigned to escort the "package" -- military prisoner Jones -- from Europe to D.C.

It turns out that Hackman has unknowingly assisted in the illegal entry into the U.S. of a highly skilled assassin whose mission is to shoot the American president and/or the Soviet chairman at a ... wait for it ... Chicago event where they will celebrate the unprecedented detente which they've brought about.

The high level Facilitators of the plot turn out to be American AND Soviet military and intelligence officers whose own masters, to use George Michael Evica's classic terminology, are "above Cold War differences."

An Oswald/Vallee patsy is set up: sheep dipped as a neo-Nazi sympathizer and given a job in an office that overlooks the podium at which the targets will speak.

Brilliant, tight, deeply aware of deep political matters.

Do NOT miss The Package.

Charles:

I saw The Package. In the film the film makers provide a hint as to the goals of the US-Soviet conspirators. The patsy is set up in an office and his cover is that the office is a travel agency. The name of the agency is "One World Travel."

John
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