The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis

[Charles Drago]

Great catch, John.

[Albert Doyle]

Without sounding too ridiculous the Vallee license plate registration should be considered people's evidence and ordered released under the premise that it is critical evidence for a conspiracy. At this point the people should enter a challenge that the withheld information behind this registration has no legitimate reason to be concealed and that its value towards establishing a conspiracy in the assassination of president Kennedy overrides any national security issues it could possibly involve.

People forget that this country is run by the people according to our Constitution. We can do that you know.


Those records will suddenly disappear or be "destroyed according to normal routine".


Let government members in contempt make fools of the people at their own risk...



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[Albert Doyle]

I believe Oswald was supposed to be killed at the Texas Theater.

When that did not happen, Ruby was put on alert to monitor him at the station.

When Oswald begins to be shocked at what has happened, he tries to call Hurt. THat was the signal that he wanted to consult with his controllers through a cut out.

And that was it. Whoever was the CIA liason with the Mafia said, "That's it. Make the phone call. Use whatever threats you have to."

This conforms to the previous level of meticulous planning. Once they fail to kill Oswald they go into regrouping and defensive strategy. The previous M.O. of meticulous world-class espionage level of planning returns when Jack Ruby is set-up with sophisticated alibis of needing to go to the Western Union and just so happened to be in the area by chance. Oswald's being in the Police station is obviously a mistake needing extreme actions to resolve. A low-level conspirator is the man who draws the short end of the stick because his position in the mob leaves him with an offer he can't refuse. Anyone who believes Jack Ruby, a low-level mafia nightclub owner, gave up the rest of his life out of a sense of honorable outrage and a need to protect the fair lady Jacqueline from having to undergo the trauma of a trial, is a laughable buffoon. Posner's venereal-fevered Ruby going through a sweating mania over the assassination is actually a mob member in distress over being given what is probably the most important order in mafia history.




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[Jan Klimkowski]

The license plate and registration on the 1962 Ford Falcon that Vallee was driving on November 1st in Chicago was New York Registration License plate # 311-ORF and was registered in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald. This is 21 days prior to President Kennedy's assassination and the world knowing the name Oswald.

In research at The National Archives in Washington of The Assassination files of 25 Million documents it turned up that in fact NY plate 311-ORF at the Vallee Traffic stop was registered in the Name of Lee Harvey Oswald. Documents declassified also state that same car in Dallas Texas at the time of the assassination. The detailed information with the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles is still withheld by order of The US Secret Service and The FBI. In the 1960's license plate in the Hudson Valley were coded OR for Orange County, UL which meant Ulster County, SU was Sullivan County and DU was Dutchess County. Of the 25 Million documents in The JFK Assassination archives, there is a 6 page Secret Service report about a trip of President Kennedy to Stewart Air Force Base, (Newburgh, NY) and of him being shadowed by two member of George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party

http://www.hvpress.net/news/138/ARTICLE/...05-14.html

If this is accurate information, the Vallee/Lee registration overlap is to be appreciated as a classic tactic within the larger doppelganger strategy.

If proven correct, that is spine-chillingly spooky - in all senses of the word.

As a random coincidence, I suspect the odds of this happening would be infinitesimal.

There are many fascinating speculations in this thread.

My own sense is that plots as fundamental as the assassination of a political leader often have a strictly demarcated cell structure and that the controllers desire operational resilience. If one plan is uncovered by low-level cops or becomes unlikely to succeed for unpredictable reasons, it is important for the controllers to be able to green light another operation.

This framework would also include the possibillity that the controllers might ultimately choose to use one operation (eg the Chicago plot) as a probing feint and/or an event providing red herrings which could subsequently be used to confuse the trail and/or an event of false reassurance in the integrity of the SS protection.

And more.

[Charles Drago]

My own sense is that plots as fundamental as the assassination of a political leader often have a strictly demarcated cell structure and that the controllers desire operational resilience. If one plan is uncovered by low-level cops or becomes unlikely to succeed for upredictable reasons, it is important for the controllers to be able to green light another operation.

In some and perhaps even most cases, Jan, you may be right.

But the resources -- human and otherwise -- to mount the Dallas conspiracy as we've uncovered it to date are immense, and I'm hard-pressed to imagine that two such operations could have been run simultaneously.

We also must keep in mind that the similarities between Chicago and Dallas are remarkable for their quantity but not their quality. By this I mean that there is little of the depth to Chicago that we see in Dallas. No multiple simultaneous Vallee sightings. No Vallee sheepdipping a la LHO in Mexico City. No Vallee version of Marina. No defection. No Albert Schweitzer College diversion or equivalent. These sorts of things.

Now it very well may be that the absence of such observations may be attributed to the fact that Chicago in general and Vallee in particular have not been the objects of 50-plus years of ever-intensifying scrutiny and the accumulation of data that it has produced.

Nevertheless, in Chicago I see a veneer -- a thin shadow of Dallas. Nothing deeper was needed to sow the sort of confusion and ultimately provide the resolution which, in my hypothesis, led to the relaxing of Dallas security concerns that had previously been heightened by reports of a plot with the Chicago/Dallas outline.

[Charles Drago]

The story that Vallee was driving a car registered to a -- or the -- Lee Harvey Oswald reminds me of another "curious" relationship:

The mysterious "Clark Rockefeller" (nee Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter?) was using the Social Security number of a -- or the -- David Berkowitz.

[Jack White]

charles i just checked it out again and it is copyrighted not to be distributed, so perhaps you should delete it...best b

Bernice,

We do not publish copyrighted material without permission. Thanks for the heads-up. Please be SPECIFIC: Which of your posts contains such material?

Thanks,

Charles

Do as you think best, but the FAIR USE PROVISION of copyright law
permits use of copyright material FOR EDUCATIONAL USE or CRITIQUE.
However, a working link is sufficient. And government or official
documents cannot be copyrighted.

Jack

[Bill Kelly]

charles i just checked it out again and it is copyrighted not to be distributed, so perhaps you should delete it...best b

Bernice,

We do not publish copyrighted material without permission. Thanks for the heads-up. Please be SPECIFIC: Which of your posts contains such material?

Thanks,

Charles

Do as you think best, but the FAIR USE PROVISION of copyright law
permits use of copyright material FOR EDUCATIONAL USE or CRITIQUE.
However, a working link is sufficient. And government or official
documents cannot be copyrighted.

Jack

Hey, why be afraid of posting copyrighted material from those who killed JFK? Why not let them sue and go to court and then require their testimony, under oath, which they wouldn't give under any other circumstances?

Why not go for a copyright suit, and get the testimonty of those who refuse to anwer our questions under normal circumstances?

As far as I am concerned, I would do everything possible to get a court case going and get more, new sworn testimony and new evidence entered into the case, rather than whimping and saying that you don't want to violate any copyright laws. They didn't care what laws they violated in killing JFK.

BK

[Jim DiEugenio]

I find that Oswald/Valle license plate overlap hard to swallow.

How could someone living in Texas be registered in Illinois, especially when he did not drive, ostensibly at least. Further, what would be the point of it?

If I recall, in Black's wonderful article, he said the license number was blacked out. Could not be found. So how was it later found?

BTW, if you have to drop this source of Black's essay, Len is putting another one up. Its retyped, and includes all pages.

IMO, the Chicago Plot is one of the truly important elements of the entire Kennedy assassination episode. It is really sad it was covered up like it was, Not just by the SS and FBI, but by the Warren Commission, by the HSCA, Waldron and Hartmann, and Bugliosi.

WHen it is not covered up, it seems to me absolutely crucial in understanding nto just what happened in Dallas, but who was behind the plot. After all, if Echeverria and his allies, had succeeded, how could anyone have blamed Johnson, HL Hunt, Murchison, Bush, etc for the murder.

The thing is, by falsifying these documents, and getting Echeverria to issue self serving statements exonerating himself, the FBI stopped or at least hindered us from connecting the dots. Not just in Chicago, but also between Chicago and Dallas.

Everyone in this community owes a great deal of gratitude to Bolden and Black. The latter is an investigative journalist who helps us define what that lost term really means.

[Jack White]

What about the Florida "plot" which caused cancellation of a motorcade?

Chicago---Miami---Dallas. Cities with corrupt police allied with CIA-Mafia-politicians?
Investigative controls? Maybe Dallas was the choice because Chicago-Miami failed?

Jack