Drew Phipps Wrote:A second set of DPD material was turned over to the FBI on 12/2/63 apparently. It's interesting that we've managed (in one morning) to identify at least 2 bits of evidence that weren't on the original search inventories that did subsequently appear in the FBI inventory and attributed to the DPD searches: the Klein's ad "connecting" Oswald to c 2766 and a scrap of paper connecting Oswald to the New Orleans fight with anti-Castro members of DRE.
The 12/2/63 xfer of LHO possessions was the only one we're supposed to know about, but it actually transferred "evidence" that had already been "fixed" secretly by the Bureau. It's easy to tell what the FBI added. The honest DPD list of LHO possessions comprises the three pages of Stovall Exhibits A&B (stuff from Ruth Paine's) and the two pages from Turner Exhibit 1 (from 1026 N. Beckley). The 22 pages of CE 2003 contains the "improved" list of Oswald possessions, after the FBI was done inventing stuff. Wearing white evidence gloves at the National Archives, John Armstrong examined all the items of original evidence, including a certain Minox camera that had been filled with glue so it couldn't be opened and the serial number read. The items from the honest list had initials of the Dallas cops; the fraudulent items from the FBI additions didn't.
What was added by the FBI is most interesting... some of it clearly showing that Hoover was methodically fabricating and altering evidence that would otherwise expose the "Oswald project."
Drew Phipps Wrote:Again, though, doesn't this look more like a post-assassination attempt by law enforcement Plodders to affect the investigation? If your Plotters are intelligence agents, they sure wouldn't want their footprints near the investigation. Wouldn't their stuff appear to be discovered BEFORE LHO dies?
Good find, btw, on the alteration of actual WC testimony. Definitive proof that the WC was a con job.
I am not trying to suggest that there was not a group of conspirators acting in advance of the assassination to "plow the field" in advance of the event. I am suggesting that membership in one group doesn't imply membership in both groups.
I agree, but there are several places where the plotters and plodders intersect, and nowhere do they do that more dramatically than in the legend and the reality of "Lee Harvey Oswald." But there are a few other places....
Dawn Meredith Wrote:So the guy who could not drive had a driver's license. Of course.
Just as significant, no DL was found among his possessions in any of the searches. Who, then, obtained and was carrying a LHO DL? Too bad the DL lady couldn't shed a bit more light on the situation, although proving that a DL existed is a big step.
Jim Hargrove Wrote:American-born LEE Oswald had a driver's license and was seen driving a car by dozens of known witnesses.
Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald didn't drive.
Read "The Man Who Could--And Couldn't--Drive" RIGHT HERE.
Jim you beat me to it, just about to type the same thing.
Aside from Lee who could drive, there were other imposters.
But it was likely Lee who was attempting to buy the car and telling the car salesman off, in such a way that the poor man would remember him.
Also at the firing range in an equally obnoxious manner.
Poor Harvey. Being the good CIA/FBI/ONI informant did not stand a chance.
Anyone have any better info on this guy "Lt. William Galliot" - a name found on a scrap of paper in the 12/2/63 "evidence" turn-over to the FBI. He might be linked to Oswald's New Orleans arrest, since the other 2 names on that paper seem to be; an arresting officer maybe?
In the last 25 years of my life, I've seen numerous examples of, well, let's call it "inventive police work." To be fair, there has also been a larger pile of "inventive" alibis, and other sorts of excuses, concerning criminal conduct. I have no experience at all in detecting or spotting an intelligence operation. So please forgive me if I have a bias in favoring a more familiar (to me) sort of explanation.
William Gaillot was with the NOLA PD. Interesting that Hoover decided to send info on the Fair Play for Cuba charade to the Deputy Director of the CIA before the assassination.
It is also significant that the info was sent to Helms, DD of "Plans," at the time "Plans" was the division of the CIA responsible for covert ops. I'll refer to a history of the CIA that I have in print later today to see if any kinds of operations of the CIA would have been excluded by notifying only Helms. That might give us a hint of what kind of operation Hoover thought was, or wasn't, going on.
Ok according to my history of the CIA Helms had overall authority over both covert ops and counterintelligence. Anyone know who Helms forwarded Hoover's memo to?
