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Michael Piper and Final Judgment
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Piper piqued by Echevarria's squeak

built a sand castle made of seven rings

Fans raved Babelian tongues-in-cheek

It melts in the tide as the fat lady sings

Yeah sure.

Anyone can sit aloof and throw barbs from above.

It's another thing entirely to come down from cloud nine, stop pretending you are an all knowing poet, and engage the debate in plain English.

You wouldn't do that. You lack the courage of your convictions.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Piper piqued by Echevarria's squeak

built a sand castle made of seven rings

Fans raved Babelian tongues-in-cheek

It melts in the tide as the fat lady sings

Yeah sure.

Anyone can sit aloof and throw barbs from above.

It's another thing entirely to come down from cloud nine, stop pretending you are an all knowing poet, and engage the debate in plain English.

You wouldn't do that. You lack the courage of your convictions.

You pompous little jackass.
GO_SECURE

monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
Charles Drago Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:Until then, why don't you share with us the evidence to support your "accused unfairly" declaration?

You and Greg Burnham are making the accusations.

Don't try shifting the burden of proof onto someone else.

Sorry for interrupting, Don.

My God ... This "Doyle" madness is spreading!

Now Mark is answering for Don!

And he's hallucinating!

Time to add another seat to the short bus.

FYI, Don made the claim that the Drago/Burnham hypothesis regarding "Doyle" is unfair. And so Don must provide evidence to support his "unfair" claim.

No shift. No shit.

Nice try but no cigar.

In the absence of any evidence, the claim you make about Albert is unfair.

You and Greg made the accusation, you and he should provide the evidence underpinning the accusation.

The ball is in your court Charles.
Greg Burnham Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Piper piqued by Echevarria's squeak

built a sand castle made of seven rings

Fans raved Babelian tongues-in-cheek

It melts in the tide as the fat lady sings

Yeah sure.

Anyone can sit aloof and throw barbs from above.

It's another thing entirely to come down from cloud nine, stop pretending you are an all knowing poet, and engage the debate in plain English.

You wouldn't do that. You lack the courage of your convictions.

You pompous little jackass.

Nice. It's not the pot calling the kettle black by any chance is it?

Anyhow, don't you have some vital evidence about Albert for us to look at? We're not getting any younger here.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Greg Burnham Wrote:
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Piper piqued by Echevarria's squeak

built a sand castle made of seven rings

Fans raved Babelian tongues-in-cheek

It melts in the tide as the fat lady sings

Yeah sure.

Anyone can sit aloof and throw barbs from above.

It's another thing entirely to come down from cloud nine, stop pretending you are an all knowing poet, and engage the debate in plain English.

You wouldn't do that. You lack the courage of your convictions.

You pompous little jackass.

Nice. It's not the pot calling the kettle black by any chance is it?

Anyhow, don't you have some vital evidence about Albert for us to look at? We're not getting any younger here.
Stop with the ad homs guys. And the rest of us have been waiting for your evidence too.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Mark presents Piper Final Judgment as significant, important, even, as its title insists, final.

That this is the final judgment on the JFK assassination.

That Israel is responsible.

Eschew any qualifiers, the author's thesis is that Israel is responsible for JFK's assassination.

Has the author, have his proponents proved the thesis.

They insist they have.

I see their case as one elongated Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

To amplify, I see the assassination as one event in a long-standing business model

One which is not controlled by national, religious, ideological players

The sweep from Preparata's Conjuring Hitler to the rebranding of the Cold War has seen the War on Terror subtly become a shifting of alliances amid the galaxy of Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia

The single-issue assassin masterminds have included Diem, KGB, LBJ, Cubans of either stripe, oil men, Israel, and others

The selection of these informs as much about the accuser as the accused

O'Brien's comment to Winston Smith sixty years ago is relevant, that those running the show had transcended ideology, that it's the power
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Mark presents Piper Final Judgment as significant, important, even, as its title insists, final.

That this is the final judgment on the JFK assassination.

That Israel is responsible.

Eschew any qualifiers, the author's thesis is that Israel is responsible for JFK's assassination.

There's compelling evidence supporting the thesis that Israel played a major role in the assassination. Israel benefitted from the coup as much if not more than the more commonly cited conspirators. Historical fact.
Phil Dragoo Wrote:To amplify, I see the assassination as one event in a long-standing business model

One which is not controlled by national, religious, ideological players

Those players were involved in every assassination I know of.

By coincidence none were involved in this one.

You're asking me to suspend disbelief Phil.
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Phil Dragoo Wrote:To amplify, I see the assassination as one event in a long-standing business model

One which is not controlled by national, religious, ideological players

Those players were involved in every assassination I know of.

By coincidence none were involved in this one.

You're asking me to suspend disbelief Phil.

PAY ATTENTION!

The key word is "controlled."
Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Mark presents Piper Final Judgment as significant, important, even, as its title insists, final.

That this is the final judgment on the JFK assassination.

That Israel is responsible.

Eschew any qualifiers, the author's thesis is that Israel is responsible for JFK's assassination.

There's compelling evidence supporting the thesis that Israel played a major role in the assassination. Israel benefitted from the coup as much if not more than the more commonly cited conspirators. Historical fact.

Utter nonsense.

You wouldn't know a "historical fact" if you were urinating on one.

You keep throwing out this bullshit, I keep calling you on it, you keep ignoring the call.

You insist upon applying objective measurement to subjective benefit.

Did the conspiracy Sponsor who committed this murder as an act of personal vengeance "benefit" from JFK's death more than the Sponsor who committed this murder for financial gain?

Thrill us with your metrics.

And while you're at it, learn how to spell "benefited."


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