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Lovelady in front of TSBD
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Drew Phipps Wrote:Somehow I doubt that Officer Baker could have bumped into Oswald on the second floor, then bumped into the "Oswald double" on the fourth floor, and failed to notice anything amiss.




Don't be so sure. The known record gives good reason to believe two Oswald's left the Depository. Frazier said he saw Oswald coming down Houston from the back exit and walking towards the bus and taxi encounter direction. Craig saw his Oswald walk out to the station wagon. So this at least creates the possibility of these two Oswald's sorting out into this scenario.

You can't say what Baker would have done. He was hunting a killer. If Truly OK'ed the second Oswald at the 4th floor landing Baker wouldn't have time to figure out if twins worked at the depository etc.




Drew Phipps Wrote:If Baker was "in" on the plot, Oswald would never have left the building alive.




You can't say this with absolute certainty. There are many examples of DPD just going along with the general level of team playing at the police station. Who knows what Baker was told when he got back to the station? For instance what were the Dallas police who cooperated in no notes of Oswald's interviews told? At what level were they "in" on it? There's no doubt they tried to influence Craig and many others.





Drew Phipps Wrote:If Truly was "in" on the plot, it beggars the imagination to think that he might be foolish enough to lead Baker into encountering both Oswald, and a double, within a few minutes of each other; or indeed that he would deliberately permit Officer Baker to cross the escape path of the shooter.




Truly should be viewed in terms of Byrd's Potemkin Village and Alice In Wonderland mystery building. I would think with the building's background and political orientation Truly would be reachable at minimum. The Depository was no doubt a right-leaning organization at minimum who hired a Marine defector to the Soviet Union. If you follow the assassination in general it is amazing how many people had their political sympathies manipulated into later cooperation - or being "in" on it to some useful degree. How much were the officers at the press conference with Ruby "in" on it?




Drew Phipps Wrote:Neither Baker nor Truly knew, in advance, anything of significance. How and why they "cooperated" afterwards, that's quite a different thing.




The things I'm talking about could comfortably occur within that definition. It is very possible that 'afterwards' included Baker not writing up his full Depository experience too quickly. Remember, the police station is a place where CIA probably got Officer Dean to let Ruby in to kill (an) Oswald. You can interpolate if Dean was reached then the whole perp walk was probably a direct ploy with major cooperation by Dallas police. There is no point applying normal expectations of police fidelity at this point since we are well through the looking glass and fully outside the box so to speak.


What makes me suspicious is every person was tracked and identified in this event with fine scrutiny and detail except this mystery person who was walking away from the 4th floor landing.


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Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 03-12-2014, 07:08 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 03-12-2014, 10:51 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Malcolm John - 03-12-2014, 11:34 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 03-12-2014, 11:48 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 03-12-2014, 11:48 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 03-12-2014, 11:50 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Malcolm John - 04-12-2014, 12:01 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 12:11 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Malcolm John - 04-12-2014, 12:13 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 12:14 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 12:22 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Malcolm John - 04-12-2014, 12:28 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 12:33 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 04-12-2014, 12:48 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 04-12-2014, 12:50 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 04-12-2014, 12:56 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 04-12-2014, 01:01 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 02:16 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 02:21 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 04-12-2014, 03:15 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 04-12-2014, 03:42 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 08-12-2014, 09:27 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Mady - 10-12-2014, 04:00 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Scott Kaiser - 10-12-2014, 04:59 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Mady - 11-12-2014, 02:42 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 16-02-2015, 08:19 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 17-02-2015, 07:56 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 17-02-2015, 08:55 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 17-02-2015, 10:57 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 17-02-2015, 11:32 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 18-02-2015, 12:30 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 18-02-2015, 01:15 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 18-02-2015, 01:24 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 18-02-2015, 01:47 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 18-02-2015, 03:19 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 18-02-2015, 03:44 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 18-02-2015, 04:02 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 19-02-2015, 12:41 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 19-02-2015, 06:21 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Tracy Riddle - 19-02-2015, 03:18 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 19-02-2015, 06:34 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 19-02-2015, 07:14 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 19-02-2015, 09:00 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Michael Cross - 19-02-2015, 10:01 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 19-02-2015, 10:07 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 19-02-2015, 10:39 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 19-02-2015, 11:43 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Michael Cross - 19-02-2015, 11:55 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 20-02-2015, 12:31 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 20-02-2015, 01:35 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Gordon Gray - 20-02-2015, 05:55 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 20-02-2015, 07:21 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Tracy Riddle - 20-02-2015, 03:50 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 20-02-2015, 05:44 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 20-02-2015, 07:19 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 20-02-2015, 09:20 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 20-02-2015, 09:28 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 20-02-2015, 09:54 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Michael Cross - 20-02-2015, 10:05 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 20-02-2015, 10:16 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Michael Cross - 20-02-2015, 10:36 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 20-02-2015, 10:47 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 21-02-2015, 02:44 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Bob Prudhomme - 21-02-2015, 02:45 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 21-02-2015, 06:01 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Albert Doyle - 24-02-2015, 09:46 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 24-02-2015, 10:08 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 24-02-2015, 10:27 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 25-02-2015, 12:27 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 25-02-2015, 01:54 AM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by Drew Phipps - 15-07-2015, 09:13 PM
Lovelady in front of TSBD - by David Josephs - 15-07-2015, 10:14 PM

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