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Vince Palamara -- Self-Described "Lone Nutter" -- Set to Strike Again
#51
Well said, Vince.

Let's try to move forward.
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#52
Vince, I quite understand your explanation that Vincent Bugliosi presents and presented as persuasive even charming perhaps dazzling.

I do recommend we be given the access to Jim DiEugenio's masterwork ten-part review of the Bugliosi psychological operation.

As I continue through the journal of the Garrison sabotage, the biggest single psy-war waged by CIA,

I see it represents the continuing program not limited to but encompassing the assassination of the 35th president.

In Guido Giacomo Preparata, Conjuring Hitler, we are shown the effects of the actions of Montagu Norman director of Bank of England 1922-44.

Our own Federal Reserve as a poor relation to the Rothschild force celebrates its hundredth on the occasion of the 50th of the only president to threaten its power.

Each has a particular gift of God that sentimental construct mocked by the likes of Alinsky dedicating Reveille to Lucifer

Yours is as the premier researcher of the Secret Service of the United States--a subject closer to catclysmic historic derailment than almost any other--

--if Lincoln protected; if Kennedy not betrayed--

You will see that that pearl falling into the hands of those who wish more and yet more manipulation of the people until they lose all their gifts powers is alarming

The phrase no worse enemy no better friend is the toast

For I do not and will not ascribe that black murder to status of "an incident"--rather it is part of a large wave of evil Arrogant and Unspeakable

Jim, no, Lee Oswald wasn't a subject of the mind control, though he was manipulated by Angleton and his tools DeMohrenschildt, Phillips, Paine et al.

They told us Helms made Gottlieb roll all that up

They told us (as seen in John Marks, Search for the Manchurian Candidate) that it came to naught

So the double lie: we stopped doing it and it didn't work anyway

Now come the gun murders by the black-eyed children of darkness followed by the knock at the door for your gun comrade

And the throaty rumble of Humvees for Peace

cruising the neighborhood

It's all good because Mr. Big is the determiner of what is hip

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#53
Set up like a bowling pin. Knocked down and killed by not another LN, but by another asset of the plotters.

JJAngleton, et.al. no question.George DeM, DPhillips and on and on. I presume SGottlieb hasn't finished/perfected an assassin in the mode of JERay and SBSirhan, 5 years later down the dark road that changed. Manchurian Candidates were ready to be deployed and have IMO continued to be readied and deployed against this Republic and WeThePeople!

LHOswald was 'played' to be enclosed in the snare he was unaware of until he was "got".

Last night I was re-reading Mr. George O'Toole's "The Assassination Tapes" or actually parts thereof. LHOswald was deemed innocent by the author as well as (I hope) honest police officers experienced in the use of Voice Stress Analysis. I reviewed videos of LHOswald during his detention by DPD.

During this review a thought occurred to me, not a new idea but still FWIW:
The MindBent assassins that are products of MK programs are living out or did live out lives in captivity, but the NOT MindBent assassin (LHOswald), he had to be killed because he was not erased of memory incriminating the others involved in the setup. I know kind of obvious and long ago discussed in the anti-conspiracy circles.

When the system by RHelms and SGottlieb to make operatives to be LNs "worked", I can think of no reason that the successful programs would be stopped. IMO, there are more and more deployed and likely more than ever before in the empowerment of the ST Empire post 09-11-2001.

I do not think LHOswald was an unsuccessful prototype of the "programmed assassin", on the contrary LHOswald was a successful psyop assassin set-up cold.

PDScott in "The Dallas Conspiracy" detailed the manipulation of Ms. Oswald (then) in manipulating her testimony by ST assets. Even LHOswald's brother Robert twisted the knife in his dead brother's back.

That has to be manipulation of a family by the ST. Marguerite held tough and was slandered and libeled as 'crazy as a loon'. In 1964 it was made to seem crazy that the alleged assassin was an asset of the US Government as Marguerite said.

50 Years later it is not so crazy sounding. It makes me wonder if the manipulated family members of LHOswald were victims too. The original crazy one that stuck to her guns doesn't seem so crazy after all. She resisted the Big Lie and was victimized too, of that point I have no doubt at all.
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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#54
LR Trotter Wrote:
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Winston Lawson allowing for that absolutely bonkers motorcade route was another nutty stroke.

As was the amount of men to the side of JFK and also having no one on the rear of the car as they enter Dealey Plaza.

CLint Hill can be seen on the rear of the limo as it approaches Dealey Plaza.

To observe the motorcade route is quite disturbing, and then add the Elm St side-step. Yes, the side-step allowed an entrance to the Stemmons Freeway, but there was no need to take the freeway for that short distance to the Trade Mart from the not needed Dealey Plaza pass through. Almost as amazing as flying from Washington DC to Houston for an evening dinner, then a late night flight to Fort Worth for a breakfast the next morning, followed by an airplane flight the short distance from Fort Worth to Dallas for a motorcade from Love Field, through Dealy Plaza to the Trademart for a luncheon, that was supposed to be followed by an afternoon flight to Austin, and the evening at LBJ's ranch near Austin. What, a trip?

:captain:
Upon further review, I seem to have (oops) overlooked the stop in San Antonio on Thursday, 11/21/'63. So, the waltz across Texas was even worse than I orginally remembered. So, the flight from Washington DC on Thursday went to San Antonio, then to Houston for an evening dinner, and then a late night trip to Fort Worth to spend the night before attending a breakfast on Friday morning, followed by a short flight to Dallas for a motorcade from Love Field through Dealey Plaza with the Elm St sidestep to be able to enter Stemmons Freeway for the short distance to the Trade Mart luncheon. And then, the trip was supposed to "continue to Austin" on Friday afternoon to spend the night at LBJ's ranch.

:e=mc2:

Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch

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#55
Charles Drago Wrote:Well said, Vince.

Let's try to move forward.

I was kinda hopin' for answers to your questions, Charles.....
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#56
David Healy Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:Well said, Vince.

Let's try to move forward.

I was kinda hopin' for answers to your questions, Charles.....

David,

Out of respect for Vince's earliest work, and because at heart I'm just a cockeyed optimist, I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and not review his book before it's published.

That being noted, I expect Vince to answer all of my questions, including but not limited to:

Do you "believe in" conspiracy, or are you prepared to stake your reputation on a bold statement of your certain knowledge of conspiracy?

AND

Did Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, kill the president? Yes or no?

AND

Do you, in your own words, "STILL STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE SECRET SERVICE'S GROSS
NEGLIGENCE LED TO THE DEATH OF JFK *AND* THERE INEPT HANDLING OF
PRE-11/22/63 THREATS TO JFK AIDED AND ABETTED BOTH OSWALD *AND* THE
POTENTIAL (SEPARATE) CONSPIRATORS WHO WERE, FOR VARIOUS REASONS,
UNABLE TO SEE THEIR GOAL COME TO FRUITION (BUT LOVED THE FACT THAT
OSWALD DID THEIR DIRTY WORK)"?


The use of the word "failure" in Vince's title is disturbing insofar as it indicates that he will argue that "gross negligence" rather than criminal intent and action on the part of certain Secret Service agents "led to the death of JFK".

But again, I've given my word to Vince publicly that I'll read his book without prejudice. Until then, Vince and I have entered into a truce -- one that I intend to honor.

Always good to correspond with you, David. Please stick around DPF; your contributions are valued.
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#57
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Jim

Here is an interesting thread discussing Manson https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...eep-dipped

We see hollow-eyed Manson in the Colorado Joker and Sandy Hook creature; only the drugs have been changed


I don't buy it. I think a much better case can be made that Sexy Sadie Mae Glutz -- Susan Atkins -- was the mastermind of the Tate-LaBianca murders.

Compare Manson's account of what happened ("Manson In His Own Words" w/Nuel Emmons) with Atkins' account which was published in the LA Times only a matter of days after her bust ("Helter Skelter" pg 261).

According to Manson, Atkins was hot to go over to Terry Melcher's house and do a graffiti number with Melcher's blood as she had done to Gary Hinman after he was killed by Bobby Beausoleil ten days earlier. She wrote "Political Piggy" on a wall in blood and it thrilled her.

Beausoleil had been arrested and she said if they did a blood-graffiti murder spree they'd let Bobby go. According to Charlie, he resisted the idea at first but quickly changed his mind and told Tex Watson to go along.

Melcher had moved out, Sharon Tate had moved in, etc.

According to one of Manson's long-time cell-mates Charlie was an instinctive follower type who never stopped talking.

There is no evidence he ever killed anyone himself, accessory though he was.

Charlie Manson -- one of the most over-rated villains of all time (imo).

Here's a trivia question: What end-of-an-era event occurred 3 days before Manson was charged with Tate-LaBianca 12/09/69?

Altamont.

The concurrence of a murder at a Rolling Stones concert with mass murder by hippies allowed the MSM to declare the end of the "peace and love '60's"...which only had a few weeks left anyway, chronologically if not culturally.

LSD was too unpredictable to be "weaponized."
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