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Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say?
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:... Hoover was and is a disgrace this Nation will never live down until they denounce him and take his name off of the FBI building. He is responsible for multiple acts of obstruction of justice, conspiracy, murder, treason, and worse!!

Well said, Peter, but you're preaching to the choir. Any idea how to make the Luce heirs admit their forebears sins? How do we make CBS, NBC, NYTimes and their ilk admit their complicity? It's all about mass media now, isn't it? Another book, however good, won't really help us, no?

Peter Lemkin Wrote:...this is faked evidence, faked photos, faked who took them and when, faked chain of evidence [or no chain of evidence], etc. One could make a list of the 100 reasons the 'official version' must be wrong - or 1000 reasons; even 10.000 reasons or more...it is only how much effort you want to exhaust. It only takes ONE thing to disprove the official version For this reason, it is not time wasted, IMO, to try to discover exactly how, who and when they faked/tampered with this phoney 'evidence'... :Blink:

IMO, so much NARA stuff... I mean the really good stuff... is completely fake it's unbelievable, and probably no one will believe me. My favorite quote from one of Harrison Livingstone's books goes something like, "ALL THE EVIDENCE IS FAKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT!" Let's run that up the flagpole and see what the network news decides about our sanity. Their job is to make our jobs hopeless, but they still can't win!!!!!
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Chief Justice Earl Warren: "Full disclosure was not possible for reasons of national security." – 1964
CIA accountant James B. Wilcott: Oswald received "a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work." – 1978
HSCA counsel Robert Tanenbaum: “Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI.” – 1996
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#42
Albert Doyle Wrote:Any chance the envelope the Back Yard Photos came in was initialed and simply not available?

Maybe, but one of the Dallas Cops who initialed everything (Stovall, Adamcik, Rose?) testified something like, "We initialed everything, every scrap of paper, every picture, everything..." and there wasn't all that much stuff among Oswald's possessions.

I'll try to look up the quote if you're interested.
HarveyandLee.net

Chief Justice Earl Warren: "Full disclosure was not possible for reasons of national security." – 1964
CIA accountant James B. Wilcott: Oswald received "a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work." – 1978
HSCA counsel Robert Tanenbaum: “Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI.” – 1996
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#43
I agree Peter on the "when" question. The time frame to actually "plant" the photos at Ruth Paine's house after the assassination, to then be "found" by DPD, was very small. (1:50 PM to 3:30 PM, if we believe that DPD did actually find the photos) If the photos were faked, and the "how" involves more time than that, it is evidence of someone with foreknowledge.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Jim Hargrove Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:... Hoover was and is a disgrace this Nation will never live down until they denounce him and take his name off of the FBI building. He is responsible for multiple acts of obstruction of justice, conspiracy, murder, treason, and worse!!

Well said, Peter, but you're preaching to the choir. Any idea how to make the Luce heirs admit their forebears sins? How do we make CBS, NBC, NYTimes and their ilk admit their complicity? It's all about mass media now, isn't it? Another book, however good, won't really help us, no?

Peter Lemkin Wrote:...this is faked evidence, faked photos, faked who took them and when, faked chain of evidence [or no chain of evidence], etc. One could make a list of the 100 reasons the 'official version' must be wrong - or 1000 reasons; even 10.000 reasons or more...it is only how much effort you want to exhaust. It only takes ONE thing to disprove the official version For this reason, it is not time wasted, IMO, to try to discover exactly how, who and when they faked/tampered with this phoney 'evidence'... :Blink:

IMO, so much NARA stuff... I mean the really good stuff... is completely fake it's unbelievable, and probably no one will believe me. My favorite quote from one of Harrison Livingstone's books goes something like, "ALL THE EVIDENCE IS FAKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT!" Let's run that up the flagpole and see what the network news decides about our sanity. Their job is to make our jobs hopeless, but they still can't win!!!!!

Perhaps, but Truth is Truth whether 1% believe it, 1000 persons believe it, 1 person believes it, or no one believes it. Conversely, Lies are Lies even if most everyone believes in them or have been hoodwinked to trust authority to believe in and/or not question them. The presstitues are just that....and their 'John' is the CIA and other propaganda arms of the 'government' [which itself is but a Potemkin Village facade behind which lurks the real powers that be]. Many have suggested we all re-read 1984. A good idea, but re-reading Alice in Wonderland might just as well fit.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#45
Jim Hargrove Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:Any chance the envelope the Back Yard Photos came in was initialed and simply not available?

Maybe, but one of the Dallas Cops who initialed everything (Stovall, Adamcik, Rose?) testified something like, "We initialed everything, every scrap of paper, every picture, everything..." and there wasn't all that much stuff among Oswald's possessions.

I'll try to look up the quote if you're interested.



Plus, if you think about it, a photo is very easy to initial since all you have to do is sign the back side that is open and easily available to initials. I would think they would make sure they ID'ed each piece of evidence. It doesn't seem likely they would not. Hmm.


Don't forget Brave New World Peter.


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