Paperback edition of Reclaiming Parkland: Expanded and Revised

[Albert Doyle]

We're both saying the same thing Cliff, minus the effete technicality...

[Cliff Varnell]

We're both saying the same thing Cliff, minus the effete technicality...

If you think that "Oswald" in Mexico City was central to the plot to kill Kennedy -- as Jim DiEugenio insists -- then we're not talking about the same thing.

If LHO had been hit by a car that morning and sent to the hospital would the assassination been called off, or would other patsies been brought to bear?

DiEugenio insists that Alzheimer Allen Dulles was the master-mind of the Kennedy murder, which means he set-up family friends of his girlfriend as handlers of a Red Agent.

Dulles was a potential patsy.

Oswald's handlers were far more likely to have been in the patsy chain than the chain of command.

[Jim DiEugenio]

Cliff, you found a bosom buddy in Scott.

You two will live happily ever after.

[Jim DiEugenio]

There is something I wanted to add here about Anne Goodpasture, actually a couple of things. Both from Reclaiming Parkland.

All of it from the Mexico City chapter that was expurgated from the hardcover edition.

In the Lopez Report, it is obvious that when Dan and Eddie first started investigating Mexico City, Goodpasture tried to say that not only did she know very little about the audio surveillance and photographic coverage of the Cuba and USSR embassies, she tried to say she was not even aware of who actually did control them. This was a very important issue for three reasons.

1.) As we know, what the WC did with this episode was pretty much a joke. I mean, the names of Goodpasture, Phillips, and Win Scott are not even mentioned in the WR. They never interviewed Duran.

2.) What Eddie and Dan were trying to figure out was simply this: Why could the CIA not produce a photo of Oswald entering either embassy, when in fact they had to have done so if Oswald did what the WC said he did? Secondly, why was the voice on the tapes sent up by CIA--in at least one instance, specifically by Goodpasture--not Oswald's? Again, how could this be if Oswald did what the WC said he did?

3.) Why did CIA, specifically Goodpsture, send a photo of the Mystery Man to Langley instead? This guy did not even resemble Oswald at all.

In a genuine evidentiary sense, this was not just paradoxical. It was contradictory. Why? Because as Eddie and Danny figured out, there were at least a total of five cameras total trained on the two embassies. And one of them was what was called a "pulse camera", that is it was automatically activated when the air pressure fluctuated near the door. This is all contained at the beginning of the Lopez Report. A lot of people think this is boring since its all technical. But that is the point of it. It is to show how, with all those cameras, and how they covered each embassy, it is simply not possible to believe the CIA did not have a photo of Oswald. Especially since they had five passes at him. Same thing goes with the audio surveillance. Which is why there is a chart in the Lopez Report and this chart shows how the guy on the tapes does not match Oswald. Because Oswald did not speak fluent Spanish and broken Russian. It was the contrary.

[Jim DiEugenio]

When Dan and Eddie began their inquiry into this mystery, they started by questioning Goodpasture. They had found out a very interesting point. Although her title denoted that she was assistant to Scott, they had discovered that she was also in cahoots with Phillips. Eddie told me that "See, Jim, he was always flying around from Mexico to Langley to JM/WAVE. So when he was gone, Goodpasture handled his operations." This seemed really important to me, for a number of reasons. First, Phillips title down there in MC said he ran Cuban operations. Second, Phillips had awarded her with a medal for figuring out Oswald was in Mexico City seven weeks prior to the assassination.

But yet, the evidence would seem to indicate that, in reality, she had not done this. If she had not, then was this really a cover for completing one of Phillip's operations?

What makes this all even more fascinating is this: Goodpasture--and there is no way to sugar coat this--lied about what her function was with the daily audio and visual surveillance. Far from not knowing anything about it, she was in charge of the take from the Soviet Embassy, and when Phillips was gone, she would also take charge of the Cuban Embassy. Not only did she lie about this, she sent Dan and Eddie on wild goose chase that wasted weeks of their time. Finally, Scott's deputy told them that the surveillance of the embassies was her prime responsibility.(Reclaiming Parkland, p. 291)

As many attorneys will tell you, when someone lies about something like that, it automatically should raise your suspicion factor about them. And it did with Dan and Eddie.

[Cliff Varnell]

Cliff, you found a bosom buddy in Scott.

You two will live happily ever after.

Contentless dismissal. You cannot now nor have you ever been able to debate me on any issue, Jim.

Tell us another laugher about why Dulles went down to Puerto Rico during the launch of the BOP.

I see eye-to-eye with Scott on some issues, others not so much.

[Jim DiEugenio]

Again, in a true evidentiary sense, this is quite crucial.

Because, it fell upon Goodpasture then to find the picture of Oswald, and if he was not known, send it up to Langley to get an ID. And this all should have been done in a timely manner, that is, while Oswald was in Mexico City. Because, as many authors have shown, CIA did have photos and files on Oswald. (Reclaiming Parkland, p. 291)

But yet, as we know, none of this happened. And this is why many people think Goodpasture lied about her role in the surveillance. She did not want to answer questions about why she did not send a photo of Oswald to Langley.

The CIA now began to cover up for Goodpasture. They would not give Ed and Dan the coverage from photo station LILYRIC. This is the station that actually had to have photographed Oswald if he went into the Soviet embassy at the times the CIA said he did. And they also would not give Ed and Dan the coverage and notes from the pulse activated camera outside the Cuban embassy. (ibid, p. 292) Phillips lied about the operation of the latter. He said it was not active while Oswald was there. Ed and Dan found written evidence that it was. (ibid, p. 293)

But that is not the worst part. The worst part is that the CIA cut ten feet of film from the Cuban camera coverage. And it disappeared at CIA HQ. (ibid)

[Phil Dagosto]

But that is not the worst part. The worst part is that the CIA cut ten feet of film from the Cuban camera coverage. And it disappeared at CIA HQ. (ibid)

I've always had difficulty understanding why the MC CIA station would send the tapes and photos of Oswald to Dallas after the assassination when they knew they wouldn't match Oswald's appearance or voice. I believe Veciana about seeing the "real" Oswald (well, one of them anyway) with Phillips so at least he had to know what he looked like. Is it possible that Goodpasture had no idea what the Dallas Oswald looked like? If so, then why would she lie so pervasively about her part in the photo surveillance? To cover for Phillips or Scott? If she thought she was being made the scapegoat then she was being an awfully "good soldier" in her HSCA testimony.

When you add in the appearance of the Oswald imposter reported by the Cuban embassy didn't resemble the mystery man photo either then I'm really lost although I guess that's why the WC wasn't too interested in interviewing Duran and the CIA had her taken into custody and tortured by the Mexican police into telling them something supporting the Oswald at the embassies story.

I'm sure the MC frame up operation wasn't perfect and a lot of mistakes were made but its reasonable to speculate that it was designed to do (at least) two things:

1) implicate Castro and perhaps the KGB in the assassination as a pretext for invading Cuba
2) blackmail Hoover into conducting a cover up "investigation" since the FBI presumably had tabs on Oswald and was reportedly using him in an anti-FPCC operation in MC

In the latter case, maybe they didn't care if the photos or tapes matched the Dallas suspect since they expected the details of them to be covered up by the FBI to avoid embarrassment.

So now we have 10 feet of film being excised from the Cuban embassy surveillance tape and disappearing while in CIA custody. Is it possible that this action was related to what the tape didn't show - that is, anyone resembling Oswald entering or leaving the Cuban embassy at the times of the impersonations? Or maybe something completely unrelated to Oswald and the JFK case? I guess we'll find out about that when we find out what was on the 18 minute gap in the White House taping system during Watergate.

[R.K. Locke]

They did a "shoddy job" and created contradictions in the story order to keep people debating them ad infinitum.

[Phil Dagosto]

They did a "shoddy job" and created contradictions in the story order to keep people debating them ad infinitum.

As good an explanation as any I suppose. Fits in with Salandria's "False Mystery" and the theory that we're allowed to believe anything but know nothing (Martin Schotz IIRC).