Rich DellaRosa talks about the Other Zapruder film.

[Albert Doyle]

Tell JC to just buy Douglass' 'JFK And The Unspeakable' read it and get back to us. Follow it up with Mark Lane's 'Last Word: My Indictment Of The CIA In The Murder Of JFK'.

[LR Trotter]

Thanks for your respnse Mr Lemkin, although I'm not quite sure about being new to all this. As stated, I am a student of JFK assassination research, and not a researcher and am dependant upon the research of others. But, I have been studying for awhile now. I have seen photos that indicate that the gentleman had, and used a 2-way radio when or just after the shooting occurred. Considering the US President and Texas Governor had just been shot in that spot, it seems the bulge, whatever it was, should have added to suspicions about both TUM and DCM. They were certainly a lot closer than the gentlemen arrested in the RR car. The video showing what looks like DCM, a few minutes after the shooting, walking on the grass on the south side of Elm going east/southeast is something I recently saw for the 1st time and had not seen any discussion about it. By the way, I wish I felt "new".

Tosh Plumlee has seen all the films and claims to have been about a hundred yards from DCM that day. I think that many, including extensive work by Wilson show the bulge under the jacket is a communications device and not a weapon. Mr. Trotter you seem rather new to all this....though no harm in that.

[Peter Lemkin]

Thanks for your respnse Mr Lemkin, although I'm not quite sure about being new to all this. As stated, I am a student of JFK assassination research, and not a researcher and am dependant upon the research of others. But, I have been studying for awhile now. I have seen photos that indicate that the gentleman had, and used a 2-way radio when or just after the shooting occurred. Considering the US President and Texas Governor had just been shot in that spot, it seems the bulge, whatever it was, should have added to suspicions about both TUM and DCM. They were certainly a lot closer than the gentlemen arrested in the RR car. The video showing what looks like DCM, a few minutes after the shooting, walking on the grass on the south side of Elm going east/southeast is something I recently saw for the 1st time and had not seen any discussion about it. By the way, I wish I felt "new".

Tosh Plumlee has seen all the films and claims to have been about a hundred yards from DCM that day. I think that many, including extensive work by Wilson show the bulge under the jacket is a communications device and not a weapon. Mr. Trotter you seem rather new to all this....though no harm in that.

Didn't mean to offend and sorry if I did. Maybe it is just that I spent years, literally, with Plumlee and on the DSM and TUM and the buldge's in various people's clothes......Yes, there are many very suspicious individuals that were at WORK that day in and around the Plaza, and OF COURSE the conspirators in control of the 'spin' and cover-up made them out to be as innocent as lambs.....Some of the guilty were even arrested and released; while the innocents were murdered or frightened to stay silent or change their testimony [or the testimony changed without their permission, etc....]. It is as if we are looking at the day and event through a funhouse mirror...and that is on purpose. The murderers wanted the People and the others who might try to stop them in future that they had complete control - even to kill a President in broad daylight and make up a false story about how it happened...and keep that lie going for nearly 50 years.....very sad, indeed! I'd go further....America is all but lost now forever, if we don't get real traction on Dallas by the 50th or Occupy or some similar movement doesn't start the revolution in the next year or two, America will soon be no better than was the third Reich...that bad, I fear is in the near offing!!!!! :wavey:

[LR Trotter]

But thanks for your reply Mr Lemkin. I just try to qualify my comments and appreciate being able to hang around this forum as my learning continues.
:humble:

[Adele Edisen]

Peter said:
....America is all but lost now forever, if we don't get real traction on Dallas by the 50th or Occupy or some similar movement doesn't start the revolution in the next year or two, America will soon be no better than was the third Reich...that bad, I fear is in the near offing!!!!!
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Your statement got my attention, and I'd like to add a comment or two. I think we are now already in the same state as was Nazi Germany and fascist Italy in the 1920s and 1930s. Rich DellaRosa often quoted Benito Mussolini's definition of the fascist state, calling it the Corporate State. This means that the corporations are the government. The Citizens United decision of our US Supreme Court has now literally legalized it. In my opinion, the journey toward fascism most visably began in this country in 1933-34 when Wall Street conspirators tried to overthrow our government and a democratically elected president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and install a dictator. A major movement to further this was the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and all the others murdered as he was. We now, almost 50 years later, should be able to recognize our country's current political and economic status if we have studied any world and US history of the last 100 years or so. I am also very mindful of the year 1913, when the Federal Reserve Banking system was created, which was a step toward financial private control of the government, and which President Kennedy tried to minimiize by having the Treasury Department issue interest-free monies by Executive Order. Had this continued, it eventually would have eroded the Federal Reserve Banking system.

Adele

[Greg Burnham]

Peter said:
....America is all but lost now forever, if we don't get real traction on Dallas by the 50th or Occupy or some similar movement doesn't start the revolution in the next year or two, America will soon be no better than was the third Reich...that bad, I fear is in the near offing!!!!!
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Your statement got my attention, and I'd like to add a comment or two. I think we are now already in the same state as was Nazi Germany and fascist Italy in the 1920s and 1930s. Rich DellaRosa often quoted Benito Mussolini's definition of the fascist state, calling it the Corporate State. This means that the corporations are the government. The Citizens United decision of our US Supreme Court has now literally legalized it. In my opinion, the journey toward fascism most visably began in this country in 1933-34 when Wall Street conspirators tried to overthrow our government and a democratically elected president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and install a dictator. A major movement to further this was the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and all the others murdered as he was. We now, almost 50 years later, should be able to recognize our country's current political and economic status if we have studied any world and US history of the last 100 years or so. I am also very mindful of the year 1913, when the Federal Reserve Banking system was created, which was a step toward financial private control of the government, and which President Kennedy tried to minimiize by having the Treasury Department issue interest-free monies by Executive Order. Had this continued, it eventually would have eroded the Federal Reserve Banking system.

Adele

Great post, my friend, Adele. The word NAZI actually means: CORPORATE NATIONALISM -- so you are spot on. Nice to see you posting again. I know we speak on the phone regularly, but it's also good to "read you" as well.

[JC Mahoney]

​edited by head agent - classified.

[Greg Burnham]

I never knew JFK went after the fed.

Are you still attempting to convince us that you are a newbie?

Nice try, but no dice.

Executive Order 11110:

AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289

AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY:

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended...

By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemptionand --By revoking subparagraphs (b) and © of paragraph 2 thereof.

Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

John F. Kennedy
The White House, June 4, 1963.

[Peter Lemkin]

Every President who has tried to battle the 'money lenders' has been assassinated or suddenly removed from office! Every one! But, it was ONLY one reason JFK was assassinated - there were a laundry list of things he was about to do. Read Douglass' book!

[Charles Drago]

Now that I know who you are, you can leave. Say goodbye.

JC ... LR ... newbie-doobie-doppelgangers ... timing ... dressed in wool ... bleat us to death ... fangs for the memories ... "initial" doubts build ...

No apology necessary, Greg. We're on the same page.

Comrades in arms, baby!