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Thoughts on a bus trip
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Quote:On the other hand, I am interested in following the evidence with as few assumptions as possible, so that I might be able to evaluate conclusions and results without being handicapped by the "blinkers" or "rose-colored glasses" of my own preconceptions.


I too am interested in that Drew. I've written half dozen articles on The Evidence IS the Conspiracy and continue to add to that list.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Evidence cannot shed light on what occurred on Elm Street that day. The Evidence we have is designed to illuminate a single story - Oswald, the Lone Nut, killed JFK.

My point about his shooting ability is NOT that I preconclude he did not shoot JFK... but that the evidence cannot get him to the window in the first place.

The evidence cannot get THAT rifle to the TSBD connected to Oswald. So discussing his shooting ability before you get him with a rifle to the window at the right time is non-sequitor.

Cecil McWatters tells us repeatedly that the man on his bus was NOT Oswald
and that the DPD railroaded him into a line-up in order to get more incriminating evidence against Oswald.

So Drew, if the bus driver specifically says it was not Oswald who he gave a transfer to... why do we talk about the finding of a transfer in a shirt pocket he was not even wearing at the time, 2+ hours after he is arrested?

In my work on the Pistol Evidence I was concerned with when and where OSwald was searched according to the Evidence:

Mr. BELIN. By the way, did you search the suspect that you brought in from the Texas Theatre?
Mr. HILL. As to any other possible weapon?
Mr. BELIN. Yes; or ammunition?
Mr. HILL. I did not search him, and being that he was hand cuffed, and being that they were moving him out hurriedly, I don't recall anyone else searching him after he was placed under arrest.


Mr. BALL. He hadn't been searched up to that time, had he?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; he had been searched.
Mr. BALL. Wasn't he searched later in the jail office?
Mr. FRITZ. He was searched, the officers who arrested him made the first search, I am sure.


TL Baker - who was supposedly given the pistol remembers them searching Oswald yet AGAIN when Sims and Boyd supposedly find the incriminating evidence.
Seems that first search was not as thorough as they had hoped I guess...



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Quote:DJ: You don't prove something to be true, by arguing that nobody has proved anything different. For instance, a lack of convincing proof that he was on the bus, doesn't justify concluding that he wasn't on the bus, just means that it isn't convincingly proven.

I'm sorry Drew - please point to where I am arguing that "nobody has proved anything different". I find and bring to light the evidence which relates to the question. Yet if it appears I am doing what you claim... I'd like to make sure to change that... I show that everyone who wrote a report about the interrogation says he changed both his dirty grey pants and reddish, long sleeve button down shirt.

What parts of this following statement does not support the conclusion that McWatters could not ID Oswald as the man on his bus, in fact he goes out of his way 2 weeks after these statements to solidufy his position in an FBI report from March 26 I posted in a previous post ?

"Mr. BALL- As I understand it, neither then nor now are you able to identify or say that you have again seen the man that got off your bus to whom you gave a transfer?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir; I couldn't.
I could not identify him."

Thanks
DJ


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Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 01:00 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 12-01-2016, 02:50 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 12-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 07:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 12-01-2016, 09:21 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 10:04 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 12:22 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 13-01-2016, 12:44 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 12:59 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 03:23 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 06:25 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 06:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 07:08 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 07:43 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 07:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 08:03 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 08:51 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 08:52 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 09:32 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 10:22 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 11:26 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 11:37 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 11:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 12:32 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 14-01-2016, 02:00 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 03:39 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 04:03 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 14-01-2016, 04:11 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 04:24 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 14-01-2016, 06:23 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 08:55 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 08:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Michael Cross - 14-01-2016, 09:22 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 10:31 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 11:10 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 11:21 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 15-01-2016, 01:22 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 04:41 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 12:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 15-01-2016, 05:50 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 15-01-2016, 08:00 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 08:16 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 15-01-2016, 08:24 PM

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