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Thoughts on a bus trip
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I guess my question to Alan really means, as I think you understand, the question of whether or not Oswald shot Tippet has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he rode a bus, got a ride with Ruby, or flew on Aladdin's carpet to reach the scene of the Tippet shooting. Or whether or not he killed JFK.

In order for the "lone bus ride" story to be fabricated, out of conspiratorial necessity, to preserve the lone nut theory, you have to have a alternative story to discredit. Oswald was arrested at 1:50. He had the transfer ticket in his pocket at that time (according to Summers, Eddows, Benson, ...) Roger Craig's version of events couldn't have become known to a "cover up team" until after Craig confronts Oswald in the post-arrest interrogation room (if you believe that happened, Fritz called Craig a liar on this point). If you don't believe that Craig confronted Oswald, you have an even later time to deal with, the time Craig wrote his statement and somebody read it.

Are you suggesting that a cover-up team knew that that planting a bus ticket on Oswald would be necessary prior to learning about Craig's story? (I know that there is a second wallet, complete with Oswald/Hidell ID, but that is a different level of prescience entirely.) Or that they somehow knew Oswald was going to claim he rode the bus, and wanted to back him up?

See, to my mind, the lone nut theory doesn't arise until LBJ and Hoover order it. Several days later. Far too late to plant a bus ticket in Oswald's pocket at his arrest.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 01:00 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 12-01-2016, 02:50 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 12-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 07:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 12-01-2016, 09:21 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 12-01-2016, 10:04 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 12:22 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 13-01-2016, 12:44 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 12:59 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 03:23 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 06:25 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 06:30 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 06:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 07:08 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 07:43 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 07:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 08:03 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 08:51 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 08:52 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 09:32 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 13-01-2016, 10:22 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 11:26 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 13-01-2016, 11:37 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 13-01-2016, 11:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 12:32 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 14-01-2016, 02:00 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 03:39 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 04:03 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Bob Prudhomme - 14-01-2016, 04:11 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 04:24 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Drew Phipps - 14-01-2016, 06:23 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 08:55 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 08:56 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Michael Cross - 14-01-2016, 09:22 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 14-01-2016, 10:31 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 11:10 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 14-01-2016, 11:21 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 15-01-2016, 01:22 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 04:41 AM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 12:53 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by David Josephs - 15-01-2016, 05:50 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 15-01-2016, 08:00 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Jim Hargrove - 15-01-2016, 08:16 PM
Thoughts on a bus trip - by Alan Ford - 15-01-2016, 08:24 PM

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