15-07-2016, 06:24 PM
Ambassador Jones to Dept of State, November 4, 1963: Note just WHEN Sukarno made his remarks about CIA making their own policy in SE Asia. Right after (during?) The CIA Diem Coup in south Vietnam.
"On November 4, when Jones was talking with Sukarno, the president raised the issue of CIA activities in Indonesia and said:
'he had been given evidence of CIA plan to topple him and his government [one and a half lines not declassified]. I denied this categorically and asked Sukarno what evidence consisted of....[eight and a half lines not declassified]. I pointed out that Sukarno had had ample evidence that President Kennedy and present administration in Washington were interested in helping not hurting the Government of Indonesia.... Sukarno acknowledged that President Kennedy and US Ambassador were not working against him. However, he was aware from the past that CIA often participated in activities of which the Ambassador was not aware and which even the White House was not aware... He was counting in Pres Kennedy coming to Indonesia. He repeated that he would give "the grandest reception anyone ever received here'" (38)
38. FRUS, Vol. XXIII, Doc 319. Jones to Dept of State, November 4, 1963
quoted in The INcubus of Intervention: Conflicting Indonesia Strategies of John F. Kennedy and Allen Dulles (2015)
Book is now kind of available on Amazon again. I say kind of because even paying the expedited faster delivery fee it still took about 13 days to get to me. But it's an absolute must read.
"On November 4, when Jones was talking with Sukarno, the president raised the issue of CIA activities in Indonesia and said:
'he had been given evidence of CIA plan to topple him and his government [one and a half lines not declassified]. I denied this categorically and asked Sukarno what evidence consisted of....[eight and a half lines not declassified]. I pointed out that Sukarno had had ample evidence that President Kennedy and present administration in Washington were interested in helping not hurting the Government of Indonesia.... Sukarno acknowledged that President Kennedy and US Ambassador were not working against him. However, he was aware from the past that CIA often participated in activities of which the Ambassador was not aware and which even the White House was not aware... He was counting in Pres Kennedy coming to Indonesia. He repeated that he would give "the grandest reception anyone ever received here'" (38)
38. FRUS, Vol. XXIII, Doc 319. Jones to Dept of State, November 4, 1963
quoted in The INcubus of Intervention: Conflicting Indonesia Strategies of John F. Kennedy and Allen Dulles (2015)
Book is now kind of available on Amazon again. I say kind of because even paying the expedited faster delivery fee it still took about 13 days to get to me. But it's an absolute must read.