Lifton on DiEugenio on JFK offering the Vice Presidential nomination to LBJ . . .

[Albert Doyle]

But the depth of the planning of Dallas is enough to convince me that, absent proof to the contrary, it was always to be Dallas.

Douglass points-out that Oswald had contacted various communist groups in New York and Russian embassies asking them about branches in Washington DC-Baltimore in preparation for what he told those groups was an intended move to Washington. This was to be in September. Richard Case Nagell wrote a registered letter to Hoover warning him of an intended plot to kill Kennedy in Washington DC September 26-29. Some form of Oswald contacted those groups specifically because he was trying to create a record of the assassin of president Kennedy as having contacted those groups (just like in Mexico). It appears there was a serious indicated plan of some sort, whether diversionary or real, for Washington. Remember, we can't nail-down any specific commitment to Dallas until Oswald gets hired by the TSBD in mid-October.

Too much hung in the balance for a "he'll do" fallback.

Besides, what was the rush?

Vallee was an understudy put into place in case some uncontained authority acted on Nagell's warning letter to Hoover. The context here is: The Washington plan is blown by Nagell's whistleblowing; The Vallee plan is put in place at the same time as the main plan is redirected to Dallas; Finally, when all post-DC alternative plans are put into place the Chicago plan is aborted in favor of Dallas.

I have a feeling if Oswald somehow got arrested or killed Kennedy would have been killed in Chicago.

Also, I read somewhere that Kennedy wasn't going to motorcade tour anymore after Dallas. So there was a rush to get it done in a hostile city. Nagell created a serious breach in the plan.

Players at this level engaged in operations of such consequence do not deal in "loosely-arranged last minute alternate" operations.

Nagell was a serious inside CIA player. The plotters had no idea who else might turn honest and try to expose Oswald like Nagell had tried to do. They had to wait to see if any other Nagell booby traps were going to go off. This could have created a threat to the plot that required quick alternatives.

What is interesting about the car is that we now have no idea what role a New York-registered automobile possibly played in the aborted DC plot? Since we know Oswald was being paraded around as discrediting red-bait we have no idea what CIA was possibly trying to connect him to if this NY-registered vehicle actually existed? It would make sense to me Vallee ended-up with it because he was now a new patsy given props originally intended for Oswald in Washington DC.

Again, this is antithetical to everything we know about the manner in which such a mega-important, mega-dangerous operation would be carried out.

The Nagell warning was completely unexpected and served to possibly scuttle the entire plan. At this point they were in serious damage control mode trying to recover the plot and still be able to carry it out according to the original plan. I have no doubt if Hoover ever received the Nagell letter it was immediately turned over to the FBI-CIA liaison who then informed Hoover to hush-up on it because it involved sensitive ongoing operations.

Under no circumstances can I be lead to accept that the master Facilitators of the JFK attack suddenly had light bulbs go off, experienced a joint eureka! moment, and exclaimed, "Wait just a minute ... if we do this in Dallas, we could False Sponsor what's his name ... the veep ... he's from Texas, right?"

The trouble with trying to unravel a high level conspiracy is there are so many intricate possibilities involved in this room full of mirrors that you can go nuts trying to figure them all out. This whole theory is based on Nagell blowing Oswald's cover before a real and intended Washington DC assassination attempt. If the DC attempt was real then they didn't intend Dallas as the first choice. Nagell was willing to go to jail over his certainty of the DC attempt.

The people who think Johnson was the ideal conspirator forget Nixon was also anxious and waiting in the wings and could have been used just as easily to cover-up the conspiracy. If the DC plot Nagell blew the whistle on was real then Johnson may not have been directly informed. If people like Nelson are using the testimony that Johnson announced that the Kennedy boys would be taken care of once and for all on the eve of Dallas, then what that is telling you is Johnson had no idea of the DC plot. Seeing how Johnson could be compromised by his record and would have gone along with any cover-up anyway, even without being involved, we can understand that both Johnson and Dallas may not have been necessary in the original DC plot. Johnson was expendable and Nixon could have followed orders just as easily. An unknowing Johnson could be dispensed with in the following election and the original 1960 Republican candidate could have been swung-in to perfect place having already shown a will in history to conduct Viet-Nam.

Now we're getting somewhere. Very nicely played.

Charles

It makes sense, doesn't it, that if Johnson was in organizing control of the shooting in Dallas that he would have no fear of being hit. Especially if he was 2 cars behind Kennedy. However, if Johnson was informed by rogue CIA cowboys that a shoot was going to happen in Dallas then he might keep his head low not knowing how crazy these guys actually were? Johnson later asks if he was shot at because he wants to know if, perhaps, he was also involved as a target? If he was then he would have a better idea of what he was brought in to.



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