Quote:Did Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, kill the president? Yes or no? I'm prepared to wait until hell freezes over for your answer.
...given Global Climate Change, we have little time until 'hell freezes over'.....I'd be very interested to hear Vince's reply......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
I should mention that when Palamara was in the throes of writing the first iteration of his book, George Michael Evica took it upon himself to offer and deliver very significant assistance. Palamara even added G.M.'s "third alternative" construction to the title of the book.
Palamara has stabbed George Michael in the back.
Come forward, Palamara. You will be given free and full access to DPF to make your case and to clarify your positions.
I am thankful to this thread, none of the other VP did I know of.
The MWKK appearance was the last I knew except for the "Kennedy Detail" limited hangout book that blasted VP's material. Does that have anything to do with this upcoming revision?
Misidentifying Rybka was the biggest mistake I knew of, until now.
OK with Pose-ner from way back? A friend of Pose-ner? Live and learn I guess.
No matter because the original evidence isn't sullied any worse than before VP.
Can't tell the players without a scorecard
writ in pencil and with an eraser at hand.
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
Probably partial Stockholm Syndrome with the SS after getting access and citation of his good work from its members. You have to remember the good work Palamara did but also ask why a person capable of such good work couldn't see the obvious? As with Fetzer, I hope these strange conditions aren't being induced by advanced means.
Quote: I
(OBVIOUSLY) STILL STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE SECRET SERVICE'S GROSS
NEGLIGENCE LED TO THE DEATH OF JFK *AND* THERE INEPT HANDLING OF
PRE-11/22/63 THREATS TO JFK AIDED AND ABETTED BOTH OSWALD *AND* THE
POTENTIAL (SEPARATE) CONSPIRATORS WHO WERE, FOR VARIOUS REASONS,
UNABLE TO SEE THEIR GOAL COME TO FRUITION (BUT LOVED THE FACT THAT
OSWALD DID THEIR DIRTY WORK).
Wot?
Illiterate and meaningless.
All in the same, ahem, construction.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
18-02-2013, 08:39 PM (This post was last modified: 18-02-2013, 08:57 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Charles Drago Wrote:Nicely put, Peter.
So would I.
I should mention that when Palamara was in the throes of writing the first iteration of his book, George Michael Evica took it upon himself to offer and deliver very significant assistance. Palamara even added G.M.'s "third alternative" construction to the title of the book.
Palamara has stabbed George Michael in the back.
Come forward, Palamara. You will be given free and full access to DPF to make your case and to clarify your positions.
Come forward. Speak for yourself.
Bueller ... Bueller ... Bueller ...
At the time you mention Palamara was very young.....there is all too much parallel with the strange case of Mark Zaid....were they both trained as the same kind of kiddie-infiltrators of the JFK-Truth Camp? While I take nothing away from your statement of VP stabbing GME in the back, I believe many of us, in fact all of us have been so stabbed, as well......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Here's Vince "Sybil" Palamara attempting, in October 2012, to explain away his brief affair d'amour with Bugliosi:
"Slickly written and produced, these [LN] works CAN, albeit temporarily, cause one to ponder (and even, as was the case with Bugliosi's book, cause one to change his mind about the case!). I am on the record as stating (for about 6 months in 2007 only) that, although I STILL believed multiple conspiracies (PLURAL) were out to get Kennedy, Oswald beat them all to the punch; so powerful and persuasive was Bugliosi's tome at the time (apparently, ONLY to me at the time, but I digress!). WHY did Bugliosi sway me at the time? The reasons were varied- I was burned out on the case; I had personal life distractions; the powerful one-sided prosecutorial "brief" that wasn't (the book is massive- a cinder block, in fact); and, most of all, "the cult of personality": I was and still am a huge admirer of Vince Bugliosi- as a writer and former prosecutor. Henry Kissinger once famously said that "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac" and the power of celebrity (Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, former JFK Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine, Bugliosi, etc) can cause normally rationale people to think twice after reading an author of such stature.
"However, if someone as well-read and learned on this case---myself---can "return to normalcy" and see the light, one can see how the vast majority of the public, not assassination scholars attuned to all the nuts and bolts of the case, would be hard-pressed to be swayed from their original core beliefs no matter WHO is writing the book."
Palamara is pathetic in his self-confessed megalomania ("someone as well-read and learned on this case -- myself") and intellectual cowardice.
How did Bugliosi get Palamara to bend over forward for him? He did it the old fashioned, sure-fire way: he flattered the narcissist.
Again, from the letter dated 7/14/07, Bugliosi writes to Palamara:
"I want you to know that I am very impressed with your research abilities and the enormous amount of work you put into your investigation of the Secret Service regarding the assassination. You are, unquestionably, the main authority on the Secret Service with regard to the assassination. I agree with you that they did not do a good job protecting the president (e.g. see p. 1443 of my book)…"
We'll know soon enough where Vincent the Bold stands. Will he stick to (or is that revert to?) his LN position in the new edition of his book? Will he attempt explain away Secret Service failures in Dealey Plaza as the simple consequences of professional ineptitude?
Will the answers to these and related questions be functions of medications and dosages?
I should mention that when Palamara was in the throes of writing the first iteration of his book, George Michael Evica took it upon himself to offer and deliver very significant assistance. Palamara even added G.M.'s "third alternative" construction to the title of the book.
Palamara has stabbed George Michael in the back.
Come forward, Palamara. You will be given free and full access to DPF to make your case and to clarify your positions.
Come forward. Speak for yourself.
Bueller ... Bueller ... Bueller ...
At the time you mention Palamara was a very young.....there is all too much parallel with the strange case of Mark Zaid....were they both trained as the same kind of kiddie-infiltrators of the JFK-Truth Camp? While I take nothing away from your statement of VP stabbing GME in the back, I believe many of us, in fact all of us have been so stabbed, as well......
My goal is to surpass Richard
Trask as the nicest "lone-nutter" in the research community (he is
virtually the only one from the "dark" side CTers still like and
respect, to a great extent)! I STILL STRONGLY BELIEVE THERE WERE MORTAL
THREATS AND CONSPIRACIES (PLURAL) TO KILL JFK THAT WERE BREWING/ IN
MOTION JUST BEFORE/ CONCURRENT WITH 11/22/63...just that, as much as
it pains me to admit (trust me, it does), Oswald beat everyone to the
punch. So, in THAT regard, I am hardly a lone nutter, per se.
So, Bugliosi's butt-boy wants to win Clue with the man who was not in that window per The Girl on the Stairs and other witnesses, did not order, receive, practice with, store, transport, use or conceal the alleged weapon, unlike the seven at the AEC Oak Ridge test who fired the model did not test positive for barium and antimony, could not have accounted for the known wounds and ballistics, was painstakingly set up by Angleton et al, was shot by a CIA/Mob asset identified to Anderson by Roselli as one of our boys sent to silence the designated patsy.
And when called on it, throws a hissy fit.
Veciana saw Oswald with Phillips in Dallas that summer (Last Investigation).
Oswald tried to call John Hurt his ONI contact.
The president was hit in the throat and the temple, while there is more in Connally's leg than can be accounted for in the extant CE 399, itself a fraudulent stage prop.
Vince at the stage door with a bouquet for Bugliosi.
Please please please use me in your and Hanks' anniversary Kabuki.
With the unavailability of syrup of Ipecac, it is comforting to have such fawning as emetic substitute.
