JFK and the Unspeakable: A conversation with James W. Douglass, Oliver Stone & Lisa Pease

[Peter Lemkin]

Douglass' book is incredible and IMO puts the last piece of the puzzle together, that the rest of us have long worked on. I am NOT optimistic [but more than willing to be WRONG] that the MSM or Sheeple will notice his book...I can't even get my own sibs to read it....they consider it 'conspiracy theory beyond the pale and not to be cracked open for fear of causing a paradigm shift in their thinking and mythology. I sent them pdf copies....which remain unread....

After three years of cajoling, my book group has finally relented and has agreed to start the book after Christmas. Nevertheless, I was still greeted with a jeer today about being the group's official conspiracy theorist. A couple of people who have just started reading the book have privately told me about how deeply emotional it has been for them. It will be very interesting how this plays out. I suspect it will be a huge shock for them. From The Matrix: "Kansas is goin' bye bye."

I'm on my third time reading it since I bought it right after it came out.

Douglass is coming from such a strange place, IMO, but just hit 'it' in the right place....I mean, someone from the Catholic Workers who doesn't have regular internet......but got it right on and more than right on!!!!....and didn't spend much of his time on who was where with how many shots...but with the real important stuff!!!!!...that some of us even missed [forest] for the trees [tramps/faked photos/false witnesses/phony documents/etc./et. al]. Hats off to Douglass and a handful of others. Case closed...but minds not opened enough to read [or even know the existence of!] this stuff! You 'ain't kiddin'....I don't think we're in Kansas [or Amerika] any longer, Toto!!!!!

[Myra Bronstein]

Douglass' book is incredible and IMO puts the last piece of the puzzle together, that the rest of us have long worked on. I am NOT optimistic [but more than willing to be WRONG] that the MSM or Sheeple will notice his book...I can't even get my own sibs to read it....they consider it 'conspiracy theory beyond the pale and not to be cracked open for fear of causing a paradigm shift in their thinking and mythology. I sent them pdf copies....which remain unread....

After three years of cajoling, my book group has finally relented and has agreed to start the book after Christmas. Nevertheless, I was still greeted with a jeer today about being the group's official conspiracy theorist. A couple of people who have just started reading the book have privately told me about how deeply emotional it has been for them. It will be very interesting how this plays out. I suspect it will be a huge shock for them. From The Matrix: "Kansas is goin' bye bye."

I'm on my third time reading it since I bought it right after it came out.

Well it sounds like they are hard core Coincidence Theorists. And that's a pretty silly thing to be.

I agree that Unspeakable is THE definitive book on the 1963 presidential coup.

[Albert Doyle]

OK. I'll have to get it and read it now.

[Lauren Johnson]

Well it sounds like they are hard core Coincidence Theorists. And that's a pretty silly thing to be.

Funny thing. The most skeptical person of the bunch was convinced that of the conspiracy before he got to the second chapter. Douglass does such a great job of laying out his case in the first chapter. The most convincing thing he does is how he quickly tells us who Oswald was in large brushstrokes and simple prose. The hook is set. My friend admitted he was a big skeptic before but not anymore.

[Phil Dragoo]

Oliver Stone accomplished his historic effect in a dramatic sitting of an hour and a half, submerging the viewer in a whirlpool of revelation. The JFK Records Act, the work of the ARRB, Doug Horne's five-volume counter-salvo to the Bugliosian Cinder Block.


James Douglass comes from candles and prayer, military train protests, passion for peace and the man John F. Kennedy.


Four hundred pages of text blaze with the times, the generals and spooks clamoring to Strike Hard at the Red Enemy. The quiet sailor seeking safe passage, marked out for murder by pirates.


I found the hundred pages of notes and sources magnificent.


How eerie the President recounts his Stations of Assassination in comparing Seven Days in May to the plight of a young president of the day.


Unspeakable is the most compelling account, winning one to the clear view of coup d'etat by the hawks of Langley and the Pentagon. One closes the book not with a mere “conspiracy theory,” but trembling with rage at the largest act of treachery in the history of the Republic.


An act mirrored by Khrushev's ouster the following year in the Looking Glass War.


Johnson had no clue, no intention of victory; see The Day It Became The Longest War
http://hnn.us/articles/34024.html


He signed on to win the backing of the generals, but declined a speedy end, choosing instead greater consumption of helicopters, more checks for Brown & Root, and, no doubt, more junk for the Company silver train.


A generation sacrificed and a future poisoned by cynicism.


We need Stone to make the Unspeakable film for the 50th Anniversary.


Put in Harrison Ford as Billy Harper's father, decoding the Harper Fragment a la Mantik.


Raiders of the Lost Limo wherein we find Angleton attempting to drink from the Chalice with the Palace (which of course has the potion which is poison), while the Flagon with the Dragon has the brew which is true:

Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones are not effective agents of change in the general consciousness.


James Douglass can accomplish a national exorcism for his is the address of the heart of religion, an appeal transcending the mud and blood of the hawks, or the dust of the secular elite.


There must be a pulse, not a motiveless madman with his big bang.
For all the argument to the spiritual, defenders of the dogma cannot defend their violation of the kill commandment.


Or the false witness one, either.


Some of them are afraid of their own name.

[Dawn Meredith]

Well it sounds like they are hard core Coincidence Theorists. And that's a pretty silly thing to be.

Funny thing. The most skeptical person of the bunch was convinced that of the conspiracy before he got to the second chapter. Douglass does such a great job of laying out his case in the first chapter. The most convincing thing he does is how he quickly tells us who Oswald was in large brushstrokes and simple prose. The hook is set. My friend admitted he was a big skeptic before but not anymore.

Lauren: I cannot get friends to read it either as they are afraid of the truth. My non CT friends I mean. You cannot remain a believer in the fairy tale after reading this book.

Peter: I sent both you and Tosh and email re the Reb Bird stuff when I was reading the book. I started re-reading it but an super busy so need to just take a weekend, take notes this time. I need to contact Tosh anyway as Cris Carroll asked me to pass on her regards. It was Tim's birthday yesterday. RIP - he was my first friend at the Swamp.
Dawn

[Myra Bronstein]

The entire panel discussion with James Douglass, Oliver Stone and Lisa Pease is on YouTube in five parts. The links are given here:

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...php?t=5054

[Dawn Meredith]

The entire panel discussion with James Douglass, Oliver Stone and Lisa Pease is on YouTube in five parts. The links are given here:

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...php?t=5054

Wonderful Myra. Will watch after court. Forty seven years and the coverup continues.

Who among our members knew day one it was a conspiracy? I was fourteen but knew. The massive amount of info on LHO was what convinced me. And LBJ's behavior. Too much onformation too quickly. I grew up reading true crime novels and detective stories so knew it did not work that way in reality.

Our goal should be that the truth is acknowledged by our government, media and history books, before it is fifty years.

Dawn

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

JFK and Unspeakable continues to show it has legs....

Today is jumped up suddenly inside Amazon 2,000s on paperback and also leaped up in kindle sales to low 30,000. It had been hovering in 12-30000 paperback range. Does anyone know was there a media mention today?

I am trying to track down what caused the leap so I can spread link if there is one....

[Dawn Meredith]

JFK and Unspeakable continues to show it has legs....

Today is jumped up suddenly inside Amazon 2,000s on paperback and also leaped up in kindle sales to low 30,000. It had been hovering in 12-30000 paperback range. Does anyone know was there a media mention today?

I am trying to track down what caused the leap so I can spread link if there is one....

No clue Nate, but that is super good news. Word of mouth I think. When a book is THAT good people tend to tell/ask others to read it.