What is James Chaney Looking Back at?

[Bob Prudhomme]

Hi James

I agree with you, the matter of Chaney passing the limo, in order to alert Curry in the lead car, is an important puzzle that simply will not go away.

However, I have found that merely mentioning this matter on JFK forums is enough to draw instant ridicule, despite the indisputable fact that so many high ranking officials testified to the fact that Chaney arrived with the news at the lead car well before the limo arrived there. I believe the reason for this is that the possibilities this raises simply stagger the imagination of the average man. If Chaney actually did pass the limo, there are a great number of films and photos that had to be altered to conceal this fact.

That being said, there remains people, like you and I, who simply cannot dismiss a possibility because of its outrageousness. This means we also accept the limo stop and the large back of head wound despite evidence to the contrary, simply because too many witnesses reported these same things and were virtually unanimous in their descriptions.

As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle so aptly said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".

[Albert Doyle]

Hi James

I agree with you, the matter of Chaney passing the limo, in order to alert Curry in the lead car, is an important puzzle that simply will not go away.

However, I have found that merely mentioning this matter on JFK forums is enough to draw instant ridicule, despite the indisputable fact that so many high ranking officials testified to the fact that Chaney arrived with the news at the lead car well before the limo arrived there. I believe the reason for this is that the possibilities this raises simply stagger the imagination of the average man. If Chaney actually did pass the limo, there are a great number of films and photos that had to be altered to conceal this fact.

That being said, there remains people, like you and I, who simply cannot dismiss a possibility because of its outrageousness. This means we also accept the limo stop and the large back of head wound despite evidence to the contrary, simply because too many witnesses reported these same things and were virtually unanimous in their descriptions.

As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle so aptly said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".

Hey, I don't necessarily disagree with this. Chaney could be shooting forward because Greer is applying the brakes. Chaney could have kept his gaze on JFK after Altgens 6 and still have caught the head (face) shot.

[James Norwood]

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I agree with you, the matter of Chaney passing the limo, in order to alert Curry in the lead car, is an important puzzle that simply will not go away.
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Bob,

The reluctance to accept the possibility of government alteration of film and photographic evidence is finally starting to change.

In another thread on Deep Politics Forum, there was discussion of Shane O'Sullivan's documentary film interview of Douglas Horne and Dino Brugioni. That film reveals the tip of the iceberg for evidence of Z-film alteration, based on the careful analysis of the film by Hollywood specialists in the exact technology available for film editing in the 1960s.

As Douglas Horne indicates in the documentary, "Stay tuned" for more revelations to come.


James

[Bob Prudhomme]

Hi James

I agree with you, the matter of Chaney passing the limo, in order to alert Curry in the lead car, is an important puzzle that simply will not go away.

However, I have found that merely mentioning this matter on JFK forums is enough to draw instant ridicule, despite the indisputable fact that so many high ranking officials testified to the fact that Chaney arrived with the news at the lead car well before the limo arrived there. I believe the reason for this is that the possibilities this raises simply stagger the imagination of the average man. If Chaney actually did pass the limo, there are a great number of films and photos that had to be altered to conceal this fact.

That being said, there remains people, like you and I, who simply cannot dismiss a possibility because of its outrageousness. This means we also accept the limo stop and the large back of head wound despite evidence to the contrary, simply because too many witnesses reported these same things and were virtually unanimous in their descriptions.

As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle so aptly said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".

Hey, I don't necessarily disagree with this. Chaney could be shooting forward because Greer is applying the brakes. Chaney could have kept his gaze on JFK after Altgens 6 and still have caught the head (face) shot.

According to the Nix film, this is the position of the motorcycles just after the head shot:

[Albert Doyle]

They both could be heavily altered. However, in my opinion we have enough evidence for public action from Horne's Bethesda evidence alone.

[James Norwood]

They both could be heavily altered. However, in my opinion we have enough evidence for public action from Horne's Bethesda evidence alone.

The Zapruder film is invariably used by critics of Lifton and Horne as definitive proof that the Bethesda doctors got it right. The "blob" and the flap of skin opening on the president's forehead, as clearly shown in the Z-film, are the basis for upholding the Warren Commission's findings. Those details will always be used to demonstrate how Oswald fired "the fatal head shot" from the rear of the motorcade.

Until the Zapruder film is shown to be fraudulent, then the public will always return to frame 313 as the Rosetta Stone of the assassination.

Unfortunately, proof of alteration of the film and proof of alteration of the president's body are needed in the wake of the fiasco of the 50th anniversary.

[Albert Doyle]

I think James is arguing from his own conspiracy world. One where somehow Dallek is a good JFK author. Meanwhile I don't see where I've committed the wrong James seems anxious to credit me with. Anyhow, the moderators don't want squabbles so I think people have seen enough.


Horne's Bethesda evidence shows reason for a public action in the Kennedy case. Drago and Salandria would probably say squabbling over alteration details is only prolonging the question.

[James Norwood]

Albert,

Regarding your postings, it is important to acknowledge that there are no references to books, interviews, or primary materials. You are simply offering "opinions" without any support.

I strongly recommend that you actually read Douglas Horne's books. You will then discover that in Volume IV, Horne discusses both the medical evidence and the alteration of the Zapruder film. It is important to see the two issues as occurring concurrently in the government's concealment of evidence in the assassination of President Kennedy. The obvious goal was to establish a plausible case for shots from the rear.

I have another suggestion for you, as well: View the Douglas Horne interview on Vimeo, which is described in detail on another thread on this site. This 90-minute documentary film consists primarily of Douglas Horne recounting his experience as an ARRB analyst in studying the Zapruder film.

So, when you mention the contributions of Douglas Horne, there is no indication whatsoever that you are aware of his work on the Zapruder film, as well as the medical evidence.


James

[Daniel Gallup]

Hi James

I agree with you, the matter of Chaney passing the limo, in order to alert Curry in the lead car, is an important puzzle that simply will not go away.

However, I have found that merely mentioning this matter on JFK forums is enough to draw instant ridicule, despite the indisputable fact that so many high ranking officials testified to the fact that Chaney arrived with the news at the lead car well before the limo arrived there. I believe the reason for this is that the possibilities this raises simply stagger the imagination of the average man. If Chaney actually did pass the limo, there are a great number of films and photos that had to be altered to conceal this fact.

That being said, there remains people, like you and I, who simply cannot dismiss a possibility because of its outrageousness. This means we also accept the limo stop and the large back of head wound despite evidence to the contrary, simply because too many witnesses reported these same things and were virtually unanimous in their descriptions.

As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle so aptly said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".

Bob, that's the importance of the limo stop. It immediately gives time for Chaney to move ahead to tell Curry about the shooting, if that is indeed what happened, and destroys any credibility of the Zapruder and Nix film.

[Marlene Zenker]

I think James is arguing from his own conspiracy world. One where somehow Dallek is a good JFK author. Meanwhile I don't see where I've committed the wrong James seems anxious to credit me with. Anyhow, the moderators don't want squabbles so I think people have seen enough.


Horne's Bethesda evidence shows reason for a public action in the Kennedy case. Drago and Salandria would probably say squabbling over alteration details is only prolonging the question.

There is nothing wrong with squabbles - just that there is no need to insult a person for being incorrect about something or having a different opinion. We need squabbles to hash out the facts...