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Webbgate: Congrats to James DiEugenio
#21
It has been said that Bob Woodward was a CIA asset and that the Watergate affair was a CIA operation. That being said, the Watergate break in, and its collateral investigation, actually took quite a long time to gain any traction with the mainstream media. It wasn't really a headline grabber until the summer of 1973 when there were hearings in the Senate.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#22
Drew Phipps Wrote:It has been said that Bob Woodward was a CIA asset and that the Watergate affair was a CIA operation. That being said, the Watergate break in, and its collateral investigation, actually took quite a long time to gain any traction with the mainstream media. It wasn't really a headline grabber until the summer of 1973 when there were hearings in the Senate.

That's what I mean. If the actual break-in was a CIA operation, and Woodward was CIA, why would Woodward contribute to putting fellow CIA assets behind bars?
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#23
might be rival factions inside the CIA.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#24
Jack Ruby was some sort of CIA asset....
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#25
Magda Hassan Wrote:
R.K. Locke Wrote:I believe that a Danny Casolaro movie is currently in the works.

Oh excellent! I just hope that who ever it is behind that one can do it the justice it so deserves. Do you know any of the names behind this?


http://variety.com/2013/film/news/sundan...118064826/


That is the most up-to-date info about it as far as I can tell. It's still classed as "in development" on IMDB so I imagine it will take another year or two to see the light of day.
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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Martin White Wrote:
Drew Phipps Wrote:It has been said that Bob Woodward was a CIA asset and that the Watergate affair was a CIA operation. That being said, the Watergate break in, and its collateral investigation, actually took quite a long time to gain any traction with the mainstream media. It wasn't really a headline grabber until the summer of 1973 when there were hearings in the Senate.

That's what I mean. If the actual break-in was a CIA operation, and Woodward was CIA, why would Woodward contribute to putting fellow CIA assets behind bars?


You're assuming that he was both a witting asset and "in the know" vis-a-vis the bigger picture. The former is possible but the latter is highly unlikely.
“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
― Leo Tolstoy,
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#27
Jim Hargrove Wrote:
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Blessed Bob Parry replies to slimy Washington Post and posthumous attack on Webb:

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/18/wpo...gary-webb/

How fitting that this terrific rejoinder should come from Bob Parry, who was the first American to report on the Contra-cocaine scandal.

A common theme of both Contra-cocaine and JFK's assassination (and so much else) involves the Central Intelligence Agency, both in terms of the original crimes AND, when parts of the truth began to emerge, the fabrication of media disinformation campaigns.


Some have argued here that it is unlikely the CIA would have engineered the JFK hit on its own, that it surely had directives from someone above, or at least on an equal level. That's not an unreasonable analysis, but it is interesting to remember the thoughts leaked to the press by Kennedy Administration officials in Saigon less than two months before the assassination:


"CIA agents represent a tremendous power and are totally unaccountable to anyone," the Washington Daily News of 10/2/63 reported, indicating the comments were made by an unnamed Administration official. The paper also reported, "One very high American official here, a man who has spent much of his life in the service of democracy, likened the CIA's growth to a malignancy, and added he was not sure even the White House could control it any longer."


In the same article, the paper also quoted an Administration official saying that if there was ever a coup d'etat in America, "it will come from the CIA, and not from the Pentagon." The very next day, Arthur Krock quoted some of this in the New York Times, explaining how unfair it is to criticize the CIA because... wait for it... the Agency isn't allowed to fight back! Jeff Leen, the Washington Post's assistant managing editor and author of the Gary Webb hit piece so beautifully and quickly deconstructed by Mr. Parry, is following in the same tradition as Krock and far too many other "reporters" of their ilk. Propagandists serving wretched masters, and little more.

Dick Starnes, the Scripps-Howard journalist responsible for the startling piece to which Krock took umbrage, owed some parts of his despatch to fellow American journalists, most of whom had read CIA Financing Planned Coup D'Etat, The Times of Vietnam, 2 September 1963. The latter's a remarkable piece in and of itself, and thus one assiduously ignored by historians ever since. The CIA wrecked the Times of Vietnam printing press shortly thereafter, prompting a reprint a week later. As Hanoi had copies of the original, the only people being kept in the dark by the Agency's activities were, as ever, the American people. Plus ca change.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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#28
With his Navy background, Woodward was more likely a military-intelligence asset. Remember the Moorer-Radford spy ring, and how the JCS were spying on Nixon and Kissinger's foreign policy.
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#29
In his Washington Post attack on Webb Jeff Leen quoted Nick Schou as if he also shared Leen's viewpoint on Webb's accuracy. From the Post's comments section:


" Narco News caught up with Nick Schou on Friday and asked for his thoughts on Jeff Leen's interpretation of his words. Schou replied:

"I'm glad this guy wrote what he did because it reveals exactly why the movie gets the story so right. The writer of this worthless and whiny op-ed perfectly captures the craven mentality of cowardice of most of Webb's critics at the three major papers. And he totally takes my statement out of context. I do believe that Dark Alliance contained major flaws of hyperbole, but they were mostly the story's logo and a few unnecessary phrases that overstated the evidence Webb had at the time. What I've always argued is that had Webb been allowed to keep writing, and had the other papers including the Post actually done their job, the true extent of the story would have been revealed. The fact remains that Webb's story nonetheless forced the CIA to admit that the true flaw of Dark Alliance was hardly one of hyperbole but the exact opposite the story radically understated the scandal." "
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#30
Jeff Leen got buried by Parry and Al GIordano.

ANd the comments on his piece are overwhelmingly negative.

The Post does not understand that the days of the MSM are numbered.

Like with Stalin, we are just waiting for the death rattle.
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